Kaine: We Are Concerned That Trump Supporters Will Turn Violent

[HAPPY2BME]

NTK Network
Published on Oct 20, 2016


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9pFrue7etk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9pFrue7etk

[HAPPY2BME]

Alinsky’s 13 Rules for the Left:

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

2. Never go outside the experience of your people.

3. Whenever possible, go outside of the experience of the enemy.

4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.

6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.

7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

8. Keep the pressure on with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside.

12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

[Norm Lenhart]

I expect it, but I'm not remotely 'concerned' about it. AZ is a Castle Doctrine state. So they would be unwise to do that here.

[skeeter]

After the Wikileaks revelations I'm more worried Clinton's operatives will turn violent.

[HonestJohn]

After the Wikileaks revelations I'm more worried Clinton's operatives will turn violent.

Remind me as to who was throwing the punches in the Trump rallies?

Democrats paid protesters to show up all right.  But they didn't pay Trumpists to punch them.

Trumpists did that for free.

Your argument is that of the bully saying, "Stop hitting my fist with your face!!!"

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Remind me as to who was throwing the punches in the Trump rallies?

Democrats paid protesters to show up all right.  But they didn't pay Trumpists to punch them.

Trumpists did that for free.

Your argument is that of the bully saying, "Stop hitting my fist with your face!!!"

This is a ridiculously idiotic reply.


There is violence on both sides. Leave it at that.

[skeeter]

Remind me as to who was throwing the punches in the Trump rallies?

Democrats paid protesters to show up all right.  But they didn't pay Trumpists to punch them.

Trumpists did that for free.

Your argument is that of the bully saying, "Stop hitting my fist with your face!!!"

Are you implying that the leaked emails which revealed the DNC strategy do not exist?

[HonestJohn]

Are you implying that the leaked emails which revealed the DNC strategy do not exist?

The leaked emails show the DNC paying protesters to go to Trump rallies.

There was no violence in those rallies until the Trumpists started throwing punches.

[Norm Lenhart]

This is a ridiculously idiotic reply.


There is violence on both sides. Leave it at that.

But the Trump side associates actual conservatives with his liberal supporters' violence because they call themselves conservatives and DEMAND to be called conservatives. So no. there will be no leaving anything so they can bull onward doing it uncontested.

[skeeter]

The leaked emails show the DNC paying protesters to go to Trump rallies.

There was no violence in those rallies until the Trumpists started throwing punches.

Unreal.

I've been clear for months that Trump's tactics and lack of morality disgust me.

But nor do I want to be associated those who, being so carried away with their dislike for Trump, are beginning to sound like apologists for progressive statists.

[HonestJohn]

Unreal.

I've been clear for months that Trump's tactics and lack of morality disgust me.

But nor do I want to be associated those who, being so carried away with their dislike for Trump, are beginning to sound like apologists for progressive statists.

You're not refuting the point.  Just upset at it.

I'm contesting your view.  Does that now mean, should you toss a punch, that I "made you do it?"

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Unreal.

I've been clear for months that Trump's tactics and lack of morality disgust me.

But nor do I want to be associated those who, being so carried away with their dislike for Trump, are beginning to sound like apologists for progressive statists.

Yeah it's like being in an alternative universe:


The Trumpists start to sound like far left wingers (screaming about neocons, etc.)


And the NeverTrumps start to sound like progressives (all the violence is from Trump, or the "real violence", etc. etc.)


This is a great election!

[Norm Lenhart]

Unreal.

I've been clear for months that Trump's tactics and lack of morality disgust me.

But nor do I want to be associated those who, being so carried away with their dislike for Trump, are beginning to sound like apologists for progressive statists.

If trump wasn't encouraging the violence I would likely agree. But he is.

There is no apology for progressive anything. This is a nutcase pol envouraging attacks. No more, no less. If the Dems were throwing punches, yea, destroy them. But they weren't.

[skeeter]

Yeah it's like being in an alternative universe:


The Trumpists start to sound like far left wingers (screaming about neocons, etc.)


And the NeverTrumps start to sound like progressives (all the violence is from Trump, or the "real violence", etc. etc.)


This is a great election!

I had a similar "discussion" with a Hillary supporter this morning. Video, email... it didn't matter what evidence was available to buttress my point, I simply could not divert them from their narrative.

[libertybele]

After the Wikileaks revelations I'm more worried Clinton's operatives will turn violent.

My thoughts exactly.  Right now Hillary and all the DEMS feel they've already won.  Can you imagine the uproar when she loses?  She will be the one claiming that the GOP rigged the election and demand a recount!

[DiogenesLamp]

Remind me as to who was throwing the punches in the Trump rallies?

Democrats paid protesters to show up all right.  But they didn't pay Trumpists to punch them.

Trumpists did that for free.

Your argument is that of the bully saying, "Stop hitting my fist with your face!!!"

Dishonest John,  if you'll remember some protestors showed up at Trump rallies with tomatoes to throw at him.   They were stopped by some of his supporters.    He said that if any other such things should happen,  he would gladly pay the legal bills for anyone that hits these people. 


What is wrong with that?   As black people say,  "don't start no trouble,  won't be no trouble."   


People who want to start trouble need to be punched in the face.   That is a rational way to deal with trouble  makers. 


I  feel the same way if such a thing happened at a Romney or McCain rally.  People deliberately making trouble ought to be hit in the mouth,  and as many times as necessary as it takes to neutralize their efforts to cause trouble.   

[DiogenesLamp]

If trump wasn't encouraging the violence I would likely agree. But he is.

There is no apology for progressive anything. This is a nutcase pol envouraging attacks. No more, no less. If the Dems were throwing punches, yea, destroy them. But they weren't.

You did see where that woman in the wheelchair who accused a Trump supporter of punching her has now backed off that claim and said he must have bumped against her inadvertently?   

She is the woman highlighted in that O'Keefe video.   Funny how it is that once she was identified as an "agent provocateur",  suddenly she remembers things differently. 


I wonder how many other DNC people are pushing deliberate lies? 

[NavyCanDo]

He has good reason to feel that way. Look no further than the Arizona Republic, a newspaper who for the first time did not endorse the Republican. Death threats and calls to burn the place down flooded their phones immidiatly afterward.

[dfwgator]

Uhhh, Tim, remember what happened in San Jose?

[Hoodat]

What is wrong with that?   As black people say,  "don't start no trouble,  won't be no trouble."   

Hate to further expose your racial stereotype, but white people say that too.

[NavyCanDo]

I fear Nov 9th and why wouldn't I? When The Arizona Republic endorsed a Democrat for president for the first time in its more than 125-year history, the newspaper didn't just get angry responses. They got death threats.

Conservative newspaper receives death threats for endorsing Hillary Clinton

The Arizona Republic newspaper is responding to some of the angry – even violent – backlash it’s received from readers after endorsing a Democratic presidential candidate for the first time in its 125-year history.

Mi-Ai Parrish, the president of the paper and its parent company, Republic Media, penned an op-ed this morning detailing some of the vitriol directed at her staff since the Editorial Board took a stand against Donald Trump.

She stood by the board’s decision, writing, “We made it clear that his principles weren’t conservative. They were bad for the party, bad for Arizona, dangerous for America.... We knew it would be unpopular with many people. We knew that, although we had clearly stated our objections to Trump, it would be a big deal for a conservative editorial board in a conservative state to break ranks from the party.”

Still, she said some of the vicious responses left her “speechless.”

Someone phoned one of the paper’s reporters, Parrish recounted, and told her that she’d be blown up.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-republic-death-threats-hillary-clinton/

[DiogenesLamp]

Hate to further expose your racial stereotype, but white people say that too.

Well I didn't learn it from white people,  I learned it from my friends.   It may not be "proper"  English,  but it conveys the point perfectly.   People get what it means instantly.  It sounds more pithy and real.   


If the point of communication is to communicate,  it's hard to do better than that. 

[corbe]

   Hey after 50 years of elected McCain and seems like 10 of Flake, There is hope for Arizona.

   This coming from a guy that can't get rid of Cornyn.

[corbe]

   I'm Bias, I've been mad at McCain since he beat this GUY:



   Arizona home of Barry Goldwater, last holdout against Medicaid and a holiday commemorating Dr. King. going Democrat, just Trump Astonishing.