After Trump: The Republican Party’s future

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After Trump: The Republican Party’s future   
19 hours ago by Sally Morris   

As we watch the Trump spacecraft careen remorselessly into the flames of the boiling super nova, we should begin thinking about the cold next few years as Hillary Clinton takes office. What will the Republican Party look like, post-Trump?

It appears that there will be a three-way split in the GOP. There seems no possibility of reconciliation here. We have the Old Guard Establishment, personified by Reince Priebus, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. These people have no regard whatsoever for Trump, but were willing to place him at the top of the ticket just to prevent a “takeover” by principled conservatives, as exemplified by Ted Cruz. This they feared far more than a Hillary Clinton presidency.

The Trump boosters will also remain a factor – these people and their hucksters, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, and Establishment turncoat Chris Christie as well as Ben Carson, and their media counterparts: Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, will continue to whine about losing because of “rigging.” This will probably interest them more than policy, as it does now. These people we shall call the Alt-Right. Where they do reference policy it is in a jingoistic, Know-Nothing-Party sort of simplicity. No jobs? China’s fault. Crime? Build a wall – for free. Make Mexico pay for it. Those who have endorsed Trump this time have been required to leave their own values at the door. And those capable of doing so were only wearing them like a pair of shoes to begin with. Many of them fooled us until they took them off and went inside.

Many of Trump’s temporary supporters are reluctant at best, and these people will likely be most relieved to see the end of this campaign. These people are not really a part of the Alt-Right. Those left out of both these cliques are the conservatives who still believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They are those who still believe that Planned Parenthood is NOT doing great works; who believe that government should NOT be “taking care of everyone.” They still believe in honor, in love of country. These people have no home in the Republican Party now. They are the Tea Party patriots who still have their pocket Constitutions, where their erstwhile Tea Party neighbors threw them out a year ago as no longer relevant. These are people who know the difference between a Ronald Reagan and a Donald Trump. They still appreciate hearing a solid argument pro or con on issues that matter. They don’t care to be hustled into acquiescence in adopting a degenerate view of life as “normal” or “acceptable.” They aren’t there to be agitated into mindless frenzy. They also aren’t there to conform to the soulless rot of the Establishment, now so distanced from the people of the country that they can barely notice them.

The Establishment uses people as tools by twisting them, breaking them, contorting them into useful forms for themselves. This is why they have a gangster image with normal Republicans across the country. The last three presidential-year RNC conventions have been a showcase for thuggery. Threats, arm-twisting, not reason, debate, negotiation, have been the means to their pre-determined end. It has caused the rise of the second faction – the Alt-Right. In fact, look at Paul Ryan. We can hold him responsible in large part for Donald Trump. He sold out conservatives in his base.

Establishment is the parent, Alt-Right the spawn.

The Alt-Right or Trump-variety of Republican is governed, if at all, by a nationalistic, fascistic view that should concern more rational Americans. The idea that government needs to be bigger (shared with both the Establishment thugs and the Democrat Party) leave little to choose here. The ugliness of the Establishment gave birth to an equally ugly backlash, which looks as though it will remain. Trump supporters show no interest in moving toward any other position. Just read the commentary following articles on Trumpie websites, such as Newsmax.

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[TomSea]

Goldwater lost big, but the party in the years following, the GOP fashioned themselves after Goldwater, Conservative, Libertarian, Small Government, this especially happened during Reagan's administration.

Trump has done well to tear down the Republican Establishment that did not stand up for their voters.

Bravo.

[corbe]

Goldwater lost big, but the party in the years following, the GOP fashioned themselves after Goldwater, Conservative, Libertarian, Small Government, this especially happened during Reagan's administration.

Trump has done well to tear down the Republican Establishment that did not stand up for their voters.

Bravo.

   @TomSea All this time I thought that 'we' could never agree on anything, Bless your Heart.  There is some common ground.   

   Though the GOP was already Mortally wounded, the nomination of trump was/is it's death knell, to many of us.

[HonestJohn]

There does need to be a fourth segment for the social conservatives.

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  More from the Artcle for those addicted to NOT reading the OP:

Only with the rise of a new third party will conservatives be heard again in America. They have been shouted down in every Republican venue left. As these destructive forces overtake the party and the election, this new party will rise from the destruction the Alt-Right and the Establishment have created. Without the implacable mafia attitude of the Establishment for many decades (remember Ford vs. Reagan, 1976), with its iron-fisted force to shut out conservatives from the process, there would be no Alt-Right, we would not have seen crowds driven to madness throwing even their own decency aside to support ANYTHING that would talk back to the Establishment. We owe the Establishment the blame for the chaotic disaster and we should remember to blame them for the results that will likely follow – a third term of Democrats in the White House.

[Fishrrman]

As far as "the Republican party's future" goes, they (and we) had better get used to a future in which only democrats will be elected to the presidency.

It almost seems appropriate that G.W. Bush will go down in history as the last Republican elected to the office ...

[corbe]

   Hang in There.


   We'll try again after 4 years of 1 of these NY Liberals.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

As far as "the Republican party's future" goes, they (and we) had better get used to a future in which only democrats will be elected to the presidency.

I think that's unavoidable at this point.  Future Presidential elections are essentially going to be decided at the DNC.

The Republic was nice while it lasted.

[DB]

Goldwater lost big, but the party in the years following, the GOP fashioned themselves after Goldwater, Conservative, Libertarian, Small Government, this especially happened during Reagan's administration.

Trump has done well to tear down the Republican Establishment that did not stand up for their voters.

Bravo.

Funny, you've been telling us endlessly that the goal was keeping Hillary out of the White House... So now Trump and his supporters have burnt down the Republican party and paved the way for Hillary and you say "Bravo"...

Yep, you got what you wanted. You burnt the establishment and everything else to the ground. Go look in the mirror and you'll see who put Hillary in the White House. You are a total hypocrite to point the finger at anyone else.

[Frank Cannon]

Goldwater lost big, but the party in the years following, the GOP fashioned themselves after Goldwater, Conservative, Libertarian, Small Government, this especially happened during Reagan's administration.

Trump has done well to tear down the Republican Establishment that did not stand up for their voters.

Bravo.

LOL. Yes. Bravo you idiot. Now what? The GOP coalition is now broken up. What swell idea do you have to fight the Left now that they are in charge and there is no solidified source to push back?

[roamer_1]

LOL. Yes. Bravo you idiot. Now what? The GOP coalition is now broken up. What swell idea do you have to fight the Left now that they are in charge and there is no solidified source to push back?

AND 'THE WALLLLL!' has been vilified.
AND 'immigration reform has been vilified.
AND anti-PC has been vilified.
AND Capitalism has been vilified.
AND Constructionist SCOTUS has been vilified.
AND MEN who are men are vilified.
AND...

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Goldwater lost big, but the party in the years following, the GOP fashioned themselves after Goldwater, Conservative, Libertarian, Small Government, this especially happened during Reagan's administration.

Trump has done well to tear down the Republican Establishment that did not stand up for their voters.

Bravo.

Goldwater gave us Johnson's Great Society.  I am not surprised you wish to minimize the damage that President Hitlery and her rat majorities in the House and Senate will cost my children in taxes and erosion of social morals...but you are to blame...believe me.

[Norm Lenhart]

AND 'THE WALLLLL!' has been vilified.
AND 'immigration reform has been vilified.
AND anti-PC has been vilified.
AND Capitalism has been vilified.
AND Constructionist SCOTUS has been vilified.
AND MEN who are men are vilified.
AND...

Well it's a lesser evil you know! No matter what!

[Norm Lenhart]

I wonder if in 4 years the lesser evil idiots that refused to listen to us when we told them "No" to Romney and "No" to Trump will go ahead and push Al Gore or Charlie Sheen on us next because they get more insane with each passing election. Moreso, I wonder if anyone will listen to them again 'no matter what'.

What am I saying, OF COURSE they will. They know better.

[Applewood]

   Hang in There.


   We'll try again after 4 years of 1 of these NY Liberals.

IMHO, Ted Cruz has lost any hope of ever being nominated, much less elected, to the presidency.  He chose party loyalty over the good of the nation.  I don't see his supporters ever really forgiving him for betraying them and the nation.

[jpsb]

   Hang in There.

   We'll try again after 4 years of 1 of these NY Liberals.

I do not know why people persist in the fantasy that the country can be fixed in a post Hillary era. It can't. "It is either Trump or a thousand years of darkness."

The border is on the ballot this election.
The Supreme Court is on the ballot this election.
The amnesty is on the ballot this election.
A war with Russia is on the ballot this election.
American Jobs are on the ballot this election.

Amnesty for tens of millions of illegals, millions of Islamic refugees, courts including the Supreme Court packed with Marxists, open borders, more job killing, sovereignty killing trade deals.  No the USA can not survive that as a constitutional republic. Elect Hillary and you kill the country.

Elect Hillary and give the Marxist Democrats a super majority forever. No conservative republican will ever be elected nationally and damn few will be elected state wide. Elect Hillary and Texas will turn blue by 2024.

[jpsb]

Goldwater gave us Johnson's Great Society.  I am not surprised you wish to minimize the damage that President Hitlery and her rat majorities in the House and Senate will cost my children in taxes and erosion of social morals...but you are to blame...believe me.

Exactly right, country club republicans that did not support Goldwater gave us LBJ and LBJ was the beginning of the end for the USA.  Elect Hillary and America is gone forever.

[Norm Lenhart]

I do not know why people persist in the fantasy that the country can be fixed in a post Hillary era. It can't. "It is either Trump or a thousand years of darkness."

Should have thought about that when you were told no. So it's all on you and yours whether you like it or not. History will remember who destroyed America. We had one last chance and you 'knew better'.