My Vote, Explained...By Charles Krauthammer

[EC]

Republican Establishment: The sods who never miss a meal no matter who is in power. 

[musiclady]

And what does that even mean, anyway?  I think "Republican establishment" has become another one of those terms that people toss around without thought, other than that it expresses some strong but amorphous dislike.

@jmyrlefuller explained it simply and well.

Trump, by being embraced by the powers that be within the GOP, is now officially "the establishment."

He's been a part of the corrupt political process as a donor in the past, but now he's an officially corrupt politician.

Any one who calls him an "outsider" is fooling himself, and anyone who votes for him because he's going to "shake things up" in Washington is deluded.

[r9etb]

The people in charge of the party, the power brokers like Reince Priebus, are now backing Trump with their full fervor. Many of Jeb's backers, for example, are on the Trump Train now. That's what the party establishment means.

That's what you say it means, and there's a lot that's probably correct.  But I think it's become a term like RINO, neocon, or "not conservative" -- a convenient epithet to toss off against something one disagrees with, rather than anything with fixed meaning.

For example, a lot of those whom I'd class as "Republican Establishment" in the power-broker sense, have tossed in their lot with Hillary, or refused to endorse or support Trump.  Partly that's a symptom of a fractured party; but it's also evidence that Trump isn't "the establishment candidate" except when it's convenient to insult him as such.

[goodwithagun]

@jpsb and @TomSea 

We get it. You hate Jews. 

[jpsb]

@jpsb and @TomSea 

We get it. You hate Jews. 

I dislike neocons not Jews. Neocon is a philosophy on how to govern. Jew is a race. See the difference?

I have the highest regard for Jews.  As a young man living in Port Washington NY I had many Jewish friends and chased after more than a few Jewish girls.  Nope my problem is not with Jews it's with the Krauthammers and Bushes of the world.

[jpsb]

Just further confirmation that they're nothing more than Orangeshirts; that is, latter day brownshirts.

More and more you remind me of liberal democrat.

[Sanguine]

I dislike neocons not Jews. Neocon is a philosophy on how to govern. Jew is a race. See the difference?

I have the highest regard for Jews.  As a young man living in Port Washington NY I had many Jewish friends and chased after more than a few Jewish girls.  Nope my problem is not with Jews it's with the Krauthammers and Bushes of the world.

"I can't be racist - I know some black people.  I hang out with black people.  See, I'm obviously not racist".

[musiclady]

"I can't be racist - I know some black people.  I hang out with black people.  See, I'm obviously not racist".

Nailed it. 

[FreeReign]

@jpsb and @TomSea 

We get it. You hate Jews. 

Wait...you think that they hate jews because of what?

[FreeReign]

Sorry Free I edited your post because you quoted a post that had what I think is an insulting/offensive comment..

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

"I can't be racist - I know some black people.  I hang out with black people.  See, I'm obviously not racist".

See to me this sounds exactly what liberals say a lot.


"I don't like Obama"


"Well you're a racist"


"I'm not a racist"


"You are, prove you're not"


"Hard to prove you're not a racist, but I hang around black people, I live around them. I'm friends with black people. Maybe I've even dated or married black people"


{insert your mocking statement here}


So basically it's just an unfalsifiable thing. Nothing JBSP will do can ever disprove he's a racist.


You're displaying the same idiocy as the left. So stop doing that.

[Sanguine]

See to me this sounds exactly what liberals say a lot.


"I don't like Obama"


"Well you're a racist"


"I'm not a racist"


"You are, prove you're not"


"Hard to prove you're not a racist, but I hang around black people, I live around them. I'm friends with black people. Maybe I've even dated or married black people"


{insert your mocking statement here}


So basically it's just an unfalsifiable thing. Nothing JBSP will do can ever disprove he's a racist.


You're displaying the same idiocy as the left. So stop doing that.

 

Well bless your little pea-picking heart!   I think you managed to completely miss the point.

[musiclady]

Well bless your little pea-picking heart!   I think you managed to completely miss the point.

I noticed that! 

[Bunny Watson]

Just want to pull this out and comment.

Freedom isn't something you can stick in your wallet. Yet people kill for it. Die for it. Even die that others may have it.

True. And I think Krauthammer was taking a dig at the country's current standard, not accepting it.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

In every post I've read from you lately you are calling everyone but yourself "stupid" or "idiots."  If that's not a leftist tactic then nothing is.  It certainly is not proving your claimed genius.

I've been cranky. I feel powerless to change things I guess. 

[goodwithagun]

I dislike neocons not Jews. Neocon is a philosophy on how to govern. Jew is a race. See the difference?

I have the highest regard for Jews.  As a young man living in Port Washington NY I had many Jewish friends and chased after more than a few Jewish girls.  Nope my problem is not with Jews it's with the Krauthammers and Bushes of the world.

1. That Jew is a race is a controversial topic in and of itself.
2. Its been posted many, many times that neocon is the new "dirty Jew."

[goodwithagun]

I've been cranky. I feel powerless to change things I guess. 

Have a Snickers 

[Sanguine]

I've been cranky. I feel powerless to change things I guess. 

Yeah, I think we're all feeling some of that lately.  Not sure it's going to get better any time soon.  But, we could be better to each other.  I need to try harder.

[musiclady]

Have a Snickers 

This is how we ALL feel.....

[jpsb]

1. That Jew is a race is a controversial topic in and of itself.
2. Its been posted many, many times that neocon is the new "dirty Jew."

neocon has got nothing to do with "Jew" dirty or otherwise. Only fools allow adversaries to define their language for them

Wiki
Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among conservative leaning Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's foreign policy. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1] Prominent neoconservatives in the George W. Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer. Senior officials Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, while not identifying as neoconservatives, listened closely to neoconservative advisers regarding foreign policy, especially the defense of Israel and the promotion of democracy in the Middle East.

[jpsb]

"I can't be racist - I know some black people.  I hang out with black people.  See, I'm obviously not racist".

You too are starting to greatly resemble a liberal democrat.

[TomSea]

@jpsb and @TomSea 

We get it. You hate Jews. 

@goodwithagun (should be goodwithakeyboard) We get it. You hate Babies. 

This is a libelous cowardly attack, such a moniker should be "good with a keyboard" because one certainly can not get this message from the one prior post I had.

If "goodwithakeyboard" is such an abortion rights supporter like Krauthammer, have at it, I will take those slings and arrows standing up for life.

Better to be pro-innocent lives.

Libel however you want, that must be the root word for liberal.

(post styled with the anti-Trump thug vocabulary)

[TomSea]

More and more you remind me of liberal democrat.

Priceless, I think the remark you quoted was deleted by someone, as it should be and should be duly noted. Thanks Mods!

At least, that the anti-Trumpers continually personally attack others is fully on display now and could not be clearer. There is no civility.

[Sanguine]

You too are starting to greatly resemble a liberal democrat.

Trying to insult me does nothing to challenge the accuracy of that statement but does indicate that it hit the mark.

[goodwithagun]

@goodwithagun (should be goodwithakeyboard) We get it. You hate Babies. 

This is a libelous cowardly attack, such a moniker should be "good with a keyboard" because one certainly can not get this message from the one prior post I had.

If "goodwithakeyboard" is such an abortion rights supporter like Krauthammer, have at it, I will take those slings and arrows standing up for life.

Better to be pro-innocent lives.

Libel however you want, that must be the root word for liberal.

(post styled with the anti-Trump thug vocabulary)

 
Gasping my sides for air . .