CNN: Military Not Happy Clinton Talked About Nuclear Launch Time, Info “Extremely Classified”

[HAPPY2BME]

BY: Jack Heretik   Follow @JackHeretik
October 20, 2016 5:02 pm

CNN’s Barbara Starr reported Thursday that the U.S. military is unhappy with Hillary Clinton discussing nuclear weapon launch times during Wednesday night’s presidential debate, calling such information “extremely classified.”

Clinton said during the debate there is a period of approximately four minutes from a presidential order to launch nuclear weapons to when the launch occurs. Her campaign also tweeted her comment.

    When the president gives the order to launch a nuclear weapon, that’s it. The officer has to launch. It can take as little as four minutes.

    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 20, 2016

Starr reported that the Pentagon would not officially comment on Clinton’s remarks since they occurred during a political campaign. However, many officials who spoke to Starr off-camera said they were not happy with Clinton’s comments due to the secure nature of what she was discussing.

“We went to the military this morning and asked them. A military spokesman told us that they do not discuss operational timelines for launching nuclear weapons,” Starr said. “This is some of the most classified information. I asked Defense Secretary Ash Carter at a press conference earlier today. He declined to answer the question because it involved politics.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvmL7GMRHRQ

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/cnn-military-not-happy-clinton-talking-about-nuclear-launch-times/

[HAPPY2BME]

about 4 minutes?

solution:  put all the JCS in prison.

[txradioguy]

about 4 minutes?

solution:  put all the JCS in prison.

On what charges?

Scratch a Trumpkin find a fascist.

[TomSea]

What an insult to the pro-life movement.;

And Trump hasn't put Christians in the firing line like Bush, like Obama and like Clinton.

[txradioguy]

What an insult to the pro-life movement.;

And Trump hasn't put Christians in the firing line like Bush, like Obama and like Clinton.

Bush did no such thing you obtuse dolt.

[Oceander]

I still fail to see an issue here. 

[txradioguy]

I still fail to see an issue here.

I guess Happy2BMe thinks if the sameBS is posted repeatedly in multiple threads it will somehow make it true.

[Oceander]

I guess Happy2BMe thinks if the sameBS is posted repeatedly in multiple threads it will somehow make it True.

Trumpkins appear to believe the canard that if you repeat it often enough, it magically becomes true. 

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Trumpkins appear to believe the canard that if you repeat it often enough, it magically becomes true.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

“I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole.”

One of those is Trump and the other is Joseph Goebbels.

[HonestJohn]

Trumpkins appear to believe the canard that if you repeat it often enough, it magically becomes true.

So did Goebbels.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Sounds like the very familar Trumpist tactic.

[HonestJohn]

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

“I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole.”

One of those is Trump and the other is Joseph Goebbels.

What are the odds of posting the exact same thing at the exact same time!?!

[Wingnut]

I still fail to see an issue here.

Trumpkins appear to believe the canard that if you repeat it often enough, it magically becomes true. 

It's really all they have to cling too with the election on Nov 28th.   

[HAPPY2BME]

Bush did no such thing you obtuse dolt.

================================

speaking of 'daddy bush' ..

This is when he and Rumsfeld decided to veto the entire Defense Appropriation Bill because it would give concurrent receipt to DAVs.  Bush nearly lost his ass on this one issue.  It showed his true motives were NOT for the grunt out in the snow and mud getting shot at.

52 Retired General Write President Bush on Concurrent Receipt

Dear Mr. President:

The fifty-two retired General Officers listed below represent more than One
Thousand Five Hundred years of service to our nation.  We are profoundly
concerned that the United States is penalizing hundreds of thousands of
disabled military retirees, including many who are unemployable because of
disability incurred in service to their country, and many who exist at or
below the poverty level.  The 107th Congress, in 2002, with overwhelming
majorities in both houses, passed legislation that would have ended the
practice of requiring military retirees who receive VA disability
compensation to forfeit an equal amount of their earned retirement pay.
Sadly, because the White House did not support it, the Republican leadership
in the House killed this legislation and substituted the Combat Related
Special Compensation (CRSC).  CRSC covers less than five percent of disabled
military retirees and then only if they apply and their application is
approved by the Defense Department.

Again this year, the 108th Congress reintroduced this legislation for which
there is strong bi-partisan support in both the House (HR 303) and the
Senate (S. 392).  Mr. President, a word from you would insure passage and
enactment of this just, fair, and long overdue legislation.  We urge you as
Commander-in-Chief, to speak for the thousands of disabled GIs who
faithfully served their country for an entire career, were disabled in
service to their country and now find their retired pay taxed at a rate of
100% of their disability compensation.  Many of our Noncommissioned
Officers, Warrant Officers and Officers who are disabled, must forfeit their
entire retired pay and many live at a purely existence level with a monthly
income below $2000, even though they served their country for an entire
career in peace and war.

Mr. President, we ask for your personal support for the restoration of full
retired pay to all disabled military retirees.  Your voice as
Commander-in-Chief will make all the difference to the nation's military
retirees, today's GIs and tomorrow's Recruits.  We respectfully request a
meeting with you to discuss this issue further and its potential impact on
future military preparedness.

Sincerely,

LTG Billy M. Thomas, USA, Ret.

2387 Spanish Oak Terrace

Colorado Springs, CO 80920

(719) 330-4818

General George Joulwan              General Leon E. Salomon

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

General John Tilelli                General William T. Tuttle, III

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

Lt Gen Benjamin N. Bellis           LTG August M. Cianciolo

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

LTG John Crosby                     Lt Gen Dave Teal

US Army, Retired                    USAF, Retired

LTG Vaughn O. Lang                  LTG Clarence E. McKnight, Jr.

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Emmett Paige, Jr.               LTG Charles W. Brown

US Army, Retired                    US Army Retired

LTG John T. Myers                   LTG Bruce R. Harris

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Peter Kind                     LTG Ronald V. Hite

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Patrick M. Hughes               LTG William G. Carter, III

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Jerry B. Hilmes                 LTG Julius W. Becton

U.S. Army, Retired                  US Army, Retired

LTG Tom Weinstein                   LTG Alonzo E. Short

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

Lt Gen George D. Miller             LTG Thomas M. Montgomery

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Lt Gen Winfield W. Scott, Jr.       LTG Ron Watts

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Maj Gen William E. Jones            Maj Gen Patrick J Halloran

USAF, Retired                       USAF, Retired

Maj Gen Bryan G. Hawley             MG Robert G. Lynn

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

MG Alan B. Salisbury                MG Ronald E. Brooks

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

Maj Gen Stanley C Beck              MG William A. Fitzgerald

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

MG Leo M. Childs                    MG Fred F. Marty

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

MG Robert Nabors                    MG Eugene C. Renzi

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

MG George H. Akin                   MG Jerry Putman

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

MG Dave Gust                        MG Tom Tait

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

BG Clarke M. Brintnall              Brig Gen H. E. (Ed) Robertson

US Army, Retired                    USAF, Retired

Brig Gen William A. Tope            BG James R. Ralph, Jr.

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Brig Gen Kenneth H. Bell            BG Robert Wynn

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Brig Gen Don M. Hartung             Brig Gen Philip D. Caine

USAF, Retired                       USAF, Retired

BG Anthony Trifiletti

US Army, Retired

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.military.retired/ybeDEyOXf44

[American Faith Today]

What an insult to the pro-life movement.;

And Trump hasn't put Christians in the firing line like Bush, like Obama and like Clinton.

Well seeing as how all those mentioned are presidents and a former Secretary of State, that's a rather poor comparison to make.

But then again, with Trump's response to the Kim Davis situation in Kentucky and his little Caitlyn Jenner bathroom stunt, call me unconvinced that Christians have a protector or friend in Donald Trump where the rubber meets the road.

What exactly does any of this have to do with the pro life movement though?

[EC]

Thought CNN was a biased, anti-Trump, pro Hillary source to be ridiculed when posted.

[rangerrebew]

 CNN: Military Not Happy With Clinton Talking About Nuclear Launch Times
Posted By Jack Heretik On October 20, 2016 @ 5:02 pm In National Security | No Comments

CNN’s Barbara Starr reported Thursday that the U.S. military is unhappy with Hillary Clinton discussing nuclear weapon launch times during Wednesday night’s presidential debate, calling such information “extremely classified.”

Clinton said during the debate there is a period of approximately four minutes from a presidential order to launch nuclear weapons to when the launch occurs. Her campaign also tweeted her comment.
 

Article printed from Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com

URL to article: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/cnn-military-not-happy-clinton-talking-about-nuclear-launch-times/

[jpsb]

I'm sure the FBI and the Department of Justice will immediately get on this breach of security /s

[txradioguy]

================================

speaking of 'daddy bush' ..

This is when he and Rumsfeld decided to veto the entire Defense Appropriation Bill because it would give concurrent receipt to DAVs.  Bush nearly lost his ass on this one issue.  It showed his true motives were NOT for the grunt out in the snow and mud getting shot at.

52 Retired General Write President Bush on Concurrent Receipt

Dear Mr. President:

The fifty-two retired General Officers listed below represent more than One
Thousand Five Hundred years of service to our nation.  We are profoundly
concerned that the United States is penalizing hundreds of thousands of
disabled military retirees, including many who are unemployable because of
disability incurred in service to their country, and many who exist at or
below the poverty level.  The 107th Congress, in 2002, with overwhelming
majorities in both houses, passed legislation that would have ended the
practice of requiring military retirees who receive VA disability
compensation to forfeit an equal amount of their earned retirement pay.
Sadly, because the White House did not support it, the Republican leadership
in the House killed this legislation and substituted the Combat Related
Special Compensation (CRSC).  CRSC covers less than five percent of disabled
military retirees and then only if they apply and their application is
approved by the Defense Department.

Again this year, the 108th Congress reintroduced this legislation for which
there is strong bi-partisan support in both the House (HR 303) and the
Senate (S. 392).  Mr. President, a word from you would insure passage and
enactment of this just, fair, and long overdue legislation.  We urge you as
Commander-in-Chief, to speak for the thousands of disabled GIs who
faithfully served their country for an entire career, were disabled in
service to their country and now find their retired pay taxed at a rate of
100% of their disability compensation.  Many of our Noncommissioned
Officers, Warrant Officers and Officers who are disabled, must forfeit their
entire retired pay and many live at a purely existence level with a monthly
income below $2000, even though they served their country for an entire
career in peace and war.

Mr. President, we ask for your personal support for the restoration of full
retired pay to all disabled military retirees.  Your voice as
Commander-in-Chief will make all the difference to the nation's military
retirees, today's GIs and tomorrow's Recruits.  We respectfully request a
meeting with you to discuss this issue further and its potential impact on
future military preparedness.

Sincerely,

LTG Billy M. Thomas, USA, Ret.

2387 Spanish Oak Terrace

Colorado Springs, CO 80920

(719) 330-4818

General George Joulwan              General Leon E. Salomon

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

General John Tilelli                General William T. Tuttle, III

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

Lt Gen Benjamin N. Bellis           LTG August M. Cianciolo

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

LTG John Crosby                     Lt Gen Dave Teal

US Army, Retired                    USAF, Retired

LTG Vaughn O. Lang                  LTG Clarence E. McKnight, Jr.

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Emmett Paige, Jr.               LTG Charles W. Brown

US Army, Retired                    US Army Retired

LTG John T. Myers                   LTG Bruce R. Harris

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Peter Kind                     LTG Ronald V. Hite

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Patrick M. Hughes               LTG William G. Carter, III

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

LTG Jerry B. Hilmes                 LTG Julius W. Becton

U.S. Army, Retired                  US Army, Retired

LTG Tom Weinstein                   LTG Alonzo E. Short

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

Lt Gen George D. Miller             LTG Thomas M. Montgomery

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Lt Gen Winfield W. Scott, Jr.       LTG Ron Watts

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Maj Gen William E. Jones            Maj Gen Patrick J Halloran

USAF, Retired                       USAF, Retired

Maj Gen Bryan G. Hawley             MG Robert G. Lynn

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

MG Alan B. Salisbury                MG Ronald E. Brooks

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

Maj Gen Stanley C Beck              MG William A. Fitzgerald

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

MG Leo M. Childs                    MG Fred F. Marty

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

MG Robert Nabors                    MG Eugene C. Renzi

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

MG George H. Akin                   MG Jerry Putman

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

MG Dave Gust                        MG Tom Tait

US Army, Retired                    US Army, Retired

BG Clarke M. Brintnall              Brig Gen H. E. (Ed) Robertson

US Army, Retired                    USAF, Retired

Brig Gen William A. Tope            BG James R. Ralph, Jr.

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Brig Gen Kenneth H. Bell            BG Robert Wynn

USAF, Retired                       US Army, Retired

Brig Gen Don M. Hartung             Brig Gen Philip D. Caine

USAF, Retired                       USAF, Retired

BG Anthony Trifiletti

US Army, Retired

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.military.retired/ybeDEyOXf44

[txradioguy]

Fourth time this issue has been posted here...third time under the same title...and yet one thing remains certain.


It was not a breach of security or a leak of classified information.

[HAPPY2BME]

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ok

Documents Say Hillary Clinton Knew She Was Breaking National Security Laws

She wasn’t ignorant of the rules regarding classified material, yet she still took classified material and put it on her private servers.

Comey admitted to the committee that any “reasonable person” would have known that putting classified documents on a private server was a security risk, but Clinton seemed to lack the “sophistication” to realize this basic fact.

One serious problem with this conclusion is that it assumes Clinton was somehow ignorant of the proper handling of classified documents, or if she wasn’t ignorant, then she thought she was complying with the law. The fact is she did know how to properly identify and handle classified information because she had been informed of the law and trained in proper procedures. Given the detail of knowledge and the training involved, there is no reasonable way she could have been unaware of the criminality of her own actions.

Hillary Clinton Was Trained in Classified Information

As secretary of State, Clinton had been trained by the Bureau of Diplomatic Security in the “Safe Handling of Information.” In addition, she was fully aware of President Obama’s 2010 executive order on “Classified National Security Information” that requires heads of departments to be informed of the requirements regarding classified information.

As reported by Kristinn Taylor of Gateway Pundit in 2015, Clinton received training in handling classified information as stated in the “Diplomatic Security 2009 Year in Review” booklet. Under the heading “Safe Handling of Information” on page 21, the bureau boasted of its efforts to quickly bring new Obama administration appointees up to speed on security issues.

    DS also provides new Department of State employees with training in the proper handling of sensitive and classified information.

    DS contributed to the smooth transition of U.S. government officials by providing more than 180 members of the new Obama administration–ranging from Secretary Clinton to various ambassadors and other presidential appointees–with security training, and immediate access to highly classified systems and other information products critical to their new roles.

    In 2009, DS delivered information security educational briefings to nearly 6,000 State Department employees, contractors and personnel from other government agencies.

Clinton was also given the authority “to personally classify as ‘Top Secret’ government intelligence such as the emails containing reportedly unlabeled highly classified information she received on the private home-brew server Clinton used throughout her four-year tenure as secretary.”

In addition to her Diplomatic Security training, Clinton, as secretary of State, was bound by President Obama’s 2010 executive order on classified information. That order “prescribes a uniform system for classifying, safeguarding, and declassifying national security information, including information relating to defense against transnational terrorism.”

As a “classification authority” and an agency head, Clinton was required to have the necessary training regarding the identification and handling of the materials Comey says she carelessly mishandled.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/07/documents-say-hillary-clinton-knew-she-was-breaking-national-security-laws/

[txradioguy]

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ok

Documents Say Hillary Clinton Knew She Was Breaking National Security Laws

Ummm...hate to break it to you but that's not even the subject of your own OP.