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The concept of a parallel universe is well-trodden territory in science fiction (See: The CW’s Flash for a recent example), but scientists might’ve just spotted some legitimate proof of the multiverse — and it looks like it’s leaking into ours.

As Inverse reports, the Planck telescope has been mapping the cosmic microwave background (CMB) leftover from the early days of the universe. Turns out, it might’ve found something of cosmic importance. Caltech cosmologist Ranga-Ram Chary compared the CMB map with a shot of the night sky captured by the Planck telescope. The effort spotted a patch of light 4,500 times brighter than it should be.


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If Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are considered as leaders in the alternative universe, that would explain a lot.
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Quick someone call Buckaroo Banzai and his band of men, the Hong Kong Cavaliers, they have experience with other dimensions, maybe they can stop this other universe from taking a leak on us.

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Quick someone call Buckaroo Banzai and his band of men, the Hong Kong Cavaliers, they have experience with other dimensions, maybe they can stop this other universe from taking a leak on us.
Maybe they can take Michelle Bigbootie and the skinny guy back with them, too.
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Maybe they can take Michelle Bigbootie and the skinny guy back with them, too.
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If Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are considered as leaders in the alternative universe, that would explain a lot.

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If Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are considered as leaders in the alternative universe, that would explain a lot.

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Yep. Open those portals CERN. Do you know what the key to the bottomless pit is AbaraXas? Does anyone know?

Hey! I've got a really good idea. Let's hit the God particle with everything we've got and see if we can break it. What's the harm?

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Yep. Open those portals CERN. Do you know what the key to the bottomless pit is AbaraXas? Does anyone know?

Hey! I've got a really good idea. Let's hit the God particle with everything we've got and see if we can break it. What's the harm?

That's actually not funny. I am no great fan of Carl Sagan's politics, but he had an interesting solution to the Fermi Paradox (The question; If there should be other sentient technological civilizations out there capable of communicating across interstellar space, why haven't we heard from them?) Sagan's answer was what he called the Shiny Red Button hypothesis. That is, every technological civilization that enters a high-tech age (of computers, sub-atomic, high energy / quantum physics) encounter some avenue of research and experimentation that is too irresistible to ignore - so they can never avoid tinkering with it - bringing catastrophic results for their race.

One candidate for that may be the remaining mysterious force, Gravity. When we detonated the first atomic bombs, there was  roughly a 3% chance calculated that the blast would ignite the oxygen in the atmosphere causing a catastrophic event that would destroy Humanity. The physicists and politicians figured that risk was smaller than that of allowing the Axis to potentially win the war, so they went ahead with detonation and the rest is history.

We know a lot less about the force of gravity in a quantum sense than we did about sub-atomic nuclei in 1945, yet we continue to study and experiment with gravity and there have been successful experiments (with more planned) to tweak gravity using massive EM fields and other exotic techniques to generate modifications to gravity waves.

The Sun is held in stasis by gravity. If it were to have the gravity along the surface weakened by only 1/1000 th of 1% over an area of a single square mile, it is likely that it would explode and destroy the entire inner solar system including Earth. There is risk involved in tinkering around with elementary forces like Gravity that are not fully understood.
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That's actually not funny..

That actually wasn't meant to be funny. Too few truly comprehend what you posted.
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That actually wasn't meant to be funny. Too few truly comprehend what you posted.
Well, I got it.

I was nearly kicked out of a college physics class for asking (after class was over) about the velocity of gravity. (If E=mc^2, then the mass of a star changes as it releases energy, so the gravitational force exerted by the star would be reduced as well. How long would it take for that change to be felt at a distant point in space? the answer was "It would be instantaneous", to which I mused "But that would make gravity faster than light." The reply: "Bring this up again and I will flunk you, no matter what grade you have." I had a high B, and needed to maintain GPA to keep my NSF grant going...

Relatively small peturbations in the fabric of a star might not cause explosion, but the CME could be a game-ender.
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... the CME could be a game-ender.

There is probably a good reason parents tell their kids to get out of the road.  Or you could duck. (Ha! Missed me.)

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There is probably a good reason parents tell their kids to get out of the road.  Or you could duck. (Ha! Missed me.)


Oh, look! Twins! they have the cutest little eyes, all eight of them...
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Yep. Open those portals CERN. Do you know what the key to the bottomless pit is AbaraXas? Does anyone know?

Hey! I've got a really good idea. Let's hit the God particle with everything we've got and see if we can break it. What's the harm?

I see you've heard about CERN too.
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Proof of our universe leaking into theirs is the missing sock in the dryer.

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That actually wasn't meant to be funny. Too few truly comprehend what you posted.


I got it. And I thank you all for posting this fascinating story.

I almost missed it. Wish we had an astronomy ping.


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Proof of our universe leaking into theirs is the missing sock in the dryer.

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And here I always thought that missing sock was something I had to give up for lint.   :silly:
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And here I always thought that missing sock was something I had to give up for lint.   :silly:

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Proof of our universe leaking into theirs is the missing sock in the dryer.
I wonder how many philanderers are going to blame the stray articles of women's underthings found in the odd spot in the vehicle on leakage from a parallel universe now that the topic has been breached?

"Honest, Maude, there was this big light in the sky, and just as I was passing inspiration point the engine conked out and the windows fogged over and I got this funny tingling all over....Next thing I knew, I was driving down the highway..."

uh huh.
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And here I always thought that missing sock was something I had to give up for lint.   :silly:
That's so bad it's good. Touche!
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Well, I got it.

I was nearly kicked out of a college physics class for asking (after class was over) about the velocity of gravity. (If E=mc^2, then the mass of a star changes as it releases energy, so the gravitational force exerted by the star would be reduced as well. How long would it take for that change to be felt at a distant point in space? the answer was "It would be instantaneous", to which I mused "But that would make gravity faster than light." The reply: "Bring this up again and I will flunk you, no matter what grade you have." I had a high B, and needed to maintain GPA to keep my NSF grant going...

Relatively small peturbations in the fabric of a star might not cause explosion, but the CME could be a game-ender.

The quick and dirty is that changes in gravity will affect things faster than light.  For it isn't light... which travels through space.  What gravity does is effect the spacetime continuum itself (the medium through which light travels).

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Changes in gravity cannot propagate faster than light.  If they could, then gravitational waves could be used for superluminal communication, which would, I believe, raise a number of ugly paradoxes.

Also, while light moves through space, it does so in much the way that other physical bodies do; space is not a "medium" for light the way, for example, that air or water are a medium for sound.

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Changes in gravity cannot propagate faster than light.  If they could, then gravitational waves could be used for superluminal communication, which would, I believe, raise a number of ugly paradoxes.

Also, while light moves through space, it does so in much the way that other physical bodies do; space is not a "medium" for light the way, for example, that air or water are a medium for sound.

Yes, gravity could be used to communicate faster than light if we could find a way to do so.

That was actually part of the story to Interstellar.  How Cooper could communicate with Murph via the manipulation of gravity while he was in the middle of the black hole.
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Yes, gravity could be used to communicate faster than light if we could find a way to do so.

That was actually part of the story to Interstellar.  How Cooper could communicate with Murph via the manipulation of gravity while he was in the middle of the black hole.

Gravitational changes cannot propagate faster than light.  The speed of light is a structural component of the space time continuum.