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'Liberty-Loving' Gary Johnson wants a carbon tax to solve climate change

Former New Mexico governor and marijuana entrepreneur Gary Johnson has floated another idea that shows he is far from a libertarian purist. After picking the statist Bill Weld as his running mate, Johnson presented a “free market” (read: statist) idea to combat so-called global warming this weekend: a form of cap and trade.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Juneau Empire published over the weekend, Johnson laid out his plan:

“I do believe that climate change is occurring. I do believe that it is man-caused,” Johnson said.

To address climate change, Johnson said he believes “that there can be and is a free-market approach to climate change.”

That would include a fee — not a tax, he said — placed on carbon. Such a fee would make pollutants bear a market cost.

A fee on carbon emissions is the centerpiece of progressive attempts to institute a cap and trade scheme on American industry. Progressives such as Johnson like to describe cap and trade as a “market-based” approach to “solving” what they perceive as man-made global warming. Johnson has once again co-opted the language of the Left for one of his own policy positions.

This seems to be a departure from a position Johnson held during the 2012 campaign when he came out against a cap and trade scheme...

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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2016, 12:42:11 pm »
He could have done so well this election, if he'd actually been liberty-loving.
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2016, 12:45:37 pm »
And some say smoking dope doesn't cause brain damage.

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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2016, 12:48:22 pm »
Libertarian, my fat butt.
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2016, 02:15:43 pm »
Gary Johnson is a liberal. He even bashes "All Lives Matter".


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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 02:23:01 pm »
Libertarian, my fat butt.

I don't like his pro-amnesty stance and he wants to cut the military. 
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2016, 02:29:54 pm »
It is difficult to be an ideological purist and address the practical realities of the President's job.   Pragmatism and purity often conflict.   

Climate change is one of those issues where the very word puts folks at odds.   Is it occurring?  Is it caused by man?   Even if it is occurring and is caused by man, is there anything efficacious that public policy can do about it?

Nothing that Gary Johnson says about this issue is likely to be satisfying to his critics, on either the right or the left.   To me, the best approach is to concentrate on the subject of pollution - air quality and water quality - and the conservation of natural resources.   Conservatives and liberals alike agree on the need to reduce pollution, and to reduce waste.   And we know that reducing pollution and waste will have measurable effects on the quality of our lives.   
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2016, 02:33:52 pm »
Gary Johnson is a liberal. He even bashes "All Lives Matter".

Did he? Do you have a link for that?

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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2016, 02:52:38 pm »
Johnson also is a squish on religious freedom.
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2016, 03:02:00 pm »
Even the alternate candidates suck.

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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2016, 06:13:24 pm »
Even the alternate candidates suck.

That's why Evan McMullin joined the race.  Check him out. 
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2016, 06:16:41 pm »
Libertarians are not happy with Johnson right now, that's for sure. He is pivoting leftward on a lot of issues to go after Bernie supporters, but in doing so, leaving conservatarians and traditional libertarians behind.


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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 08:47:09 pm »
That's why Evan McMullin joined the race.  Check him out.

McMullin's platform and political stances before running for President:

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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2016, 08:48:02 pm »
Although I think there's some brilliant trolling going on here. "A fee, not a tax" is the exact same claim they made about Obamacare.
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2016, 04:12:43 pm »
Makes him DOA.
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2016, 04:19:50 pm »
I can't believe that the Libertarian party allowed such a ripe election season to go to waste with his nomination.  They couldn't have made a worse nomination!  I was begging to vote Libertarian this election and then I saw who they nominated.  I might as well vote for Hillary.....not thanks.

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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 05:43:45 pm »
Gary Johnson is not the conservative we are looking for. And neither is Trump and certainly not Hillary.  That's the dilemma and the situation we gotten ourselves into. We were told and even believed that the 17 candidates we started with were the best collection of candidates we have had in decades - and then as if someone hit the self-destruct button, started eliminating them one at a time starting with Scott Walker, ending with Ted Cruz. leaving us with the most liberal of the pack Trump.
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Re: Liberty-Loving Gary Johnson Wants A Carbon Tax to Solve Climate Change
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2016, 05:52:26 pm »
Although I think there's some brilliant trolling going on here. "A fee, not a tax" is the exact same claim they made about Obamacare.

Whether it's a fee or a tax, it matters not one iota. It will be passed on to consumers.
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