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SOURCE: HOTAIR.COM

URL: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/01/man-killed-in-tesla-autopilot-crash/

by: John Sexton



A former Navy SEAL named Joshua Brown was killed when his self-driving Tesla Model S drove under a tractor-trailer, sheering the roof off his car. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, this is the first fatal crash involving a self-driving vehicle.

Tesla published a statement about the crash on its website which describes the circumstances of the crash. It reads in part:

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We learned yesterday evening that NHTSA is opening a preliminary evaluation into the performance of Autopilot during a recent fatal crash that occurred in a Model S. This is the first known fatality in just over 130 million miles where Autopilot was activated. Among all vehicles in the US, there is a fatality every 94 million miles…

Following our standard practice, Tesla informed NHTSA about the incident immediately after it occurred. What we know is that the vehicle was on a divided highway with Autopilot engaged when a tractor trailer drove across the highway perpendicular to the Model S. Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied. The high ride height of the trailer combined with its positioning across the road and the extremely rare circumstances of the impact caused the Model S to pass under the trailer, with the bottom of the trailer impacting the windshield of the Model S.

The statement goes on to say, “Autopilot is getting better all the time, but it is not perfect and still requires the driver to remain alert.”

There is some question about how the driver missed seeing the tractor trailer. The Dallas Morning News reports that Frank Baressi, the driver of the truck, claims Brown was watching a movie on the dashboard at the time of the crash. Baressi didn’t actually see the movie but claims to have heard it playing after the crash. However, Tesla says it is not possible to watch a movie on the dashboard touchscreen of the Model S.

Brown was a Navy seal for 11 years until 2008. He owned a technology company and was very enthusiastic about his Model S which he nicknamed “Tessy.” He posted videos on You Tube specifically praising the car’s autopilot feature. In this clip from April, Brown claims the autopilot prevented a crash by avoiding a truck that swerved into his lane:

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At the start of this video you can hear that Brown is listening to what sounds like an audio book just before the incident and in the description beneath the video he writes, “Note 2: In case you’re curious, I’m listening to an audiobook in the background. It’s a Malcolm Gladwell book (excellent book).” Perhaps the sound the truck driver interpreted as Brown watching a movie (which, again, Tesla says is not possible) was actually an audiobook playing in the car.

Tesla founder Elon Musk tweeted his condolences and also, in response to a pointed question, explained why the cars “radar” didn’t recognize the truck and apply the brakes:

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Our condolences for the tragic loss https://t.co/zI2100zEGL

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 30, 2016

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@artem_zin @theaweary Radar tunes out what looks like an overhead road sign to avoid false braking events

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 30, 2016



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Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied.

Translation: We didn't see the need for our autopilot to use any sensors besides an optical sensor.

What is it about Elon Musk's companies, that they take these cool ideas and then half-ass them?
« Last Edit: July 01, 2016, 09:27:18 pm by r9etb »

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Translation: We didn't see the need for our autopilot to use any sensors besides an optical sensor.

What is it about Elon Musk's companies, that they take these cool ideas and then half-ass them?

Why not make it dependent on the Google Maps, they're never wrong.... lololololol  :silly:

Taking left off a tall bridge...

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I still think self-driving cars are a bad idea.


I don't think so.. Much better then spending billions of dollars on high speed choo choo..
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It makes you wonder what other anomolies the cars sensors might be blind to; semi trucks are really known for being stealthy. This is very sad.
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The Dallas Morning News reports that Frank Baressi, the driver of the truck, claims Brown was watching a movie on the dashboard at the time of the crash. Baressi didn’t actually see the movie but claims to have heard it playing after the crash. However, Tesla says it is not possible to watch a movie on the dashboard touchscreen of the Model S.

Red herring.

A portable DVD player was found in the wreckage and a witness says it was playing a Harry Potter movie.
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Photo shows mangled Tesla from fatal crash; NTSB says car was on Autopilot and speeding

Charles Fleming
Los Angeles Times
July 26, 2016

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The National Transportation Safety Board has released a preliminary report and photo concerning the first known fatality of a Tesla car using Autopilot. And it’s pretty gruesome.

Earlier reports had stated the a Model S struck a big rig while traveling on a divided highway in central Florida, and speculated that the Tesla Autopilot system had failed to intervene in time to prevent the collision.

The crash killed 40-year-old Ohio resident Joshua Brown, who was the driver of the Tesla. The driver of the truck was not injured.
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Saint Elon  Blames the semi because it looked like a road sign to the Tesla computers software program.   
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Which begs the question of why Tesla's autopilot, does not use radar, or, if it does, was misdesigned so the radar only senses obstacles near road-level, rather than up to and including the clearance necessary for the car to pass under them.
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Saint Elon  Blames the semi because it looked like a road sign to the Tesla computers software program.   

That's ridiculous.  It's like liberals who want everyone to drive those tiny little clown cars because they're environmentally friendly, and then want large cars banned because the people in the small cars die when they hit a large car.

The problem isn't the semi, the problem is an auto-drive algorithm that cannot tell the difference between a semi and a road sign.

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Tesla and Felon Muskrat are scum, using tax mulah to test their death trap on people. It will eventually be mandatory. Complete faith in the Cloud(s).
So good that we'll be forced into it.

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Tesla and Felon Muskrat are scum, using tax mulah to test their death trap on people. It will eventually be mandatory. Complete faith in the Cloud(s).
So good that we'll be forced into it.

He's been brilliant at using Other People's Money to line his own pockets.
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He's been brilliant at using Other People's Money to line his own pockets.

Taxpayers will pay nearly $100 million turning the Willow Run property into a test facility for driverless cars