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See if you can spot all the problems in this article.

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It feels like a bazooka — and sounds like a cannon.

One day after 49 people were killed in the Orlando shooting, I traveled to Philadelphia to better understand the firepower of military-style assault weapons and, hopefully, explain their appeal to gun lovers.

But mostly, I was just terrified.....

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/firing-ar-15-horrifying-dangerous-loud-article-1.2673201




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It feels like a bazooka — and sounds like a cannon.

I suspect the only bazooka he's ever handled belonged to a male dancer someplace...as for the cannon, best not to speculate; but I doubt he's ever seen a real cannon fire either...

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I traveled to Philadelphia to better understand the firepower of military-style assault weapons and, hopefully, explain their appeal to gun lovers.

If he wasn't such a pink snowflake he might better try to understand why such guns appeal to Jihadists and Terrorists and why every American needs to own them and know how to use one in a moment's notice.

But no.  NY values will continue to depict 'gun lovers' as some kind of scary group of people with horrifying and dangerous weapons the government needs to ban and confiscate so snowflakes like him can feel safer.

Idiot.
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What is it like to fire an AR-15?


FUN!!!!!!!!

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The AR-15's recoil is rather negligible compared with any number of long guns (owing to a compensator/spring assembly in the stock, the audible report is also relatively tame (compare it with the sound of a .30-06 or a 12-gauge firing buckshot, sometime), and the author is quite evidently an urban pansy.
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The sound and recoil from an AR-15, also known as an M-16 is delicate, compared to previous standard issue military rifles.

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Good Lord.  Suck it up, Buttercup.  Or don't fire one and save the ammo for the rest of us.

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He loves the AR-15 for cops, soldiers, hunters and target shooters. “It’s fun to shoot something like that,” he said.

 Not in my hands. I’ve shot pistols before, but never something like an AR-15. Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

 The recoil bruised my shoulder. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary case of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.

What in the name of all that is good and decent is this? :thud: This is a joke.
First off the .223 is not a good round for hunters, varmints excepted, it just doesn't have the stopping power for bigger game. Second maybe it’s just my experience, but I can't think a pistol as easy to handle as an AR is. The pistol grip plus the stock give you more control over the weapon absorb more recoil and the longer barrel puts the "kaboom" farther away from you. This just doesn’t pass the smell test.

The AR is an easy to handle relatively light kicking weapon. With earplugs you may (depends on the gun) hear more "Sproing" from the recoil spring than the "bang" of the weapon. An AR doesn't sound like a bomb its a loud pop at best.

Surely enough people in this country have the weapons experience to denounce this as hokum.

.30-06 is respectable, .270 has some kick. My Remington 12 gauge pump action with 3 1/2 turkey loads qualifies as a real piece of field artillery. I'm glad PJ boy that wrote the article didn't try a real man sized weapon (no offense to the venerable .223).

Thirdly. This is just pansy-boy nonsense. Idaho_Cowgirl (formerly of FR will have to talk her into signing up some day) was just commenting how she enjoined the smell of burning gunpowder. Oh, and she is a better shot with the shotgun than I am.

Fourthly. Another spot in the article says that you can empty a 40 round clip in 5 seconds. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. 40 round clips. :wtf:
That’s impressive in a magazine fed weapon. I suppose there are out there, but 30 is the standard larger magazine size. This joker's range time have proved that it is impossible to put that many rounds downrange and even trying to approach such speeds would lead to horrible inaccuracy.

In conclusion, either pansy boy wasn't shooting an AR or whatever model he has I would like one. I've never had my shoulder bruised by an AR maybe this boy needs some meat on his bones. I suggest a more truthful headline. Pansyboy thinks Black Scary Rifles are Black and Scary, turns out they are even Blacker and Scarier than he imagined.
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I suspect the only bazooka he's ever handled belonged to a male dancer someplace...as for the cannon, best not to speculate; but I doubt he's ever seen a real cannon fire either...

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The local gun club had a minature one they used to shoot off (blanks of course) when they raise the flag before matches.  :patriot:
“The way I see it, every time a man gets up in the morning he starts his life over. Sure, the bills are there to pay, and the job is there to do, but you don't have to stay in a pattern. You can always start over, saddle a fresh horse and take another trail.” ― Louis L'Amour

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The AR-15's recoil is rather negligible compared with any number of long guns (owing to a compensator/spring assembly in the stock, the audible report is also relatively tame (compare it with the sound of a .30-06 or a 12-gauge firing buckshot, sometime), and the author is quite evidently an urban pansy.

Another funny point in his complaints is 'bazookas' (for all intents and purposes, variations of RPGs, M72, M136, etc) have virtually no recoil simply due to the way they operate. The opposing force is expelled out the back as gas versus within the body.


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Another funny point in his complaints is 'bazookas' (for all intents and purposes, variations of RPGs, M72, M136, etc) have virtually no recoil simply due to the way they operate. The opposing force is expelled out the back as gas versus within the body.


That is a perfectly timed picture. Very Cool.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/firing-ar-15-horrifying-dangerous-loud-article-1.2673201

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It feels like a bazooka — and sounds like a cannon.

One day after 49 people were killed in the Orlando shooting, I traveled to Philadelphia to better understand the firepower of military-style assault weapons and, hopefully, explain their appeal to gun lovers.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

Many gun shops turned down our request to fire and discuss the AR-15, a style of semi-automatic rifle that popular with mass killers such as San Bernardino terrorist Syed Farook and similar to the Sig Sauer MCX rifle used by Orlando terrorist Omar Mateen.

Complete BS

OMG, 

Gersh Kuntzman is.... so many words to describe the imbecility of this article.

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"The recoil bruised my shoulder. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary case of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."

Holy crap. This guy is one of the biggest pu$$ies I've ever encountered.
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.30-06 is respectable, .270 has some kick. My Remington 12 gauge pump action with 3 1/2 turkey loads qualifies as a real piece of field artillery. I'm glad PJ boy that wrote the article didn't try a real man sized weapon (no offense to the venerable .223).

Try a Mosin Nagant with no pad and a tight bolt.
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Try a Mosin Nagant with no pad and a tight bolt.

We need an entire Mosin thread. I remember a lot of FR members liked them and I have a bit of a collection of them.

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Author's name is very fitting.

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"The recoil bruised my shoulder. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary case of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."

Holy crap. This guy is one of the biggest pu$$ies I've ever encountered.



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Try a Mosin Nagant with no pad and a tight bolt.

I love Mosins - really fun to shoot. It's a relic -a big, heavy, roughly-made and nasty-ass rifle, stamped in three places with the year of Russian manufacture (usually in the early 1940s). There's just something about the smell and feel of residual cosmoline... which you can dissolve nicely with mineral spirits, by the way. You can then polish the bolt (I've used a rotary motor and a soft brush with a mild abrasive, like jeweler's rouge) so that it doesn't bind. 

A word to the wise, though I know the previously initiated already know this by heart: proper bolt reassembly requires a measurement of the firing pin's extrusion, using the tool included with the Mosin field kit. Too short and it won't penetrate the primer. Too long, and the gasses from ignition could explode your receiver. I'd love to see the face of the little wuss who wrote this article if he ever saw that.
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I do not profess to be a gun expert by a long shot, but have fired my fair share of rifles, pistols, machine-guns, recoilless launchers, crew-served weapons, howitzers, etc.

But I have to  :wtf!:  :huh?: and  :3: when I read or hear people spout such idiotic garbage such as this author.
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Weenie reporter is becoming a meme.




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I love Mosins - really fun to shoot. It's a relic -a big, heavy, roughly-made and nasty-ass rifle, stamped in three places with the year of Russian manufacture (usually in the early 1940s). There's just something about the smell and feel of residual cosmoline... which you can dissolve nicely with mineral spirits, by the way. You can then polish the bolt (I've used a rotary motor and a soft brush with a mild abrasive, like jeweler's rouge) so that it doesn't bind. 

A word to the wise, though I know the previously initiated already know this by heart: proper bolt reassembly requires a measurement of the firing pin's extrusion, using the tool included with the Mosin field kit. Too short and it won't penetrate the primer. Too long, and the gasses from ignition could explode your receiver. I'd love to see the face of the little wuss who wrote this article if he ever saw that.

Mrs Abaraxas and her favorite- 1936 Tula Hex. (don't worry, she didn't shoot like that, she was just looking down the sights while we were setting up- yes, I know, booger picker off the boom switch) I really would like to see snowflake reporter shoot one of these.


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Mrs Abaraxas and her favorite- 1936 Tula Hex. (don't worry, she didn't shoot like that, she was just looking down the sights while we were setting up- yes, I know, booger picker off the boom switch) I really would like to see snowflake reporter shoot one of these.

He'd probably wet himself.  :thud:

The Russians killed a lot of Nazis around Stalingrad with that gun, or with one of its M91/30 variants. And 7.62 x 54R ammo is still cheap.
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I fantasize about a range session with a no-kidding Finnish made .338 Lapua and 100 rounds for fun...not sure my shoulder could take it but I'd love to find out.

Just once...

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What a pansy ass twit. An AR round is .223, i.e. small. He'd crap his pants over an AK, much less one of the higher calibers like 30-06, .308, 7.62X54, or God forbid a .50 cal. I used to have a .308 bolt that I'd shoot military rounds thru. They'd lift it up right off the bipod.

Then there's this baby from Anzio Iron Works, a 20MM semi-auto:


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Of course this guy would be writing for the Daily News. You couldn't make a more transparently silly anti-gun propaganda piece than this.

"Temporary case of PTSD."  :silly:

I saw this article from one of my Marine friends, who laughed off the idea that the AR-15 has any appreciable recoil.
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