Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage

[Gefn]

Thanks @Suppressed

I still am on the fence I just feel if I do this it's going to wind up like a Greek tragedy play.

Just my gut feeling.

I feel bad my sister spent almost $200 on this.

[mountaineer]

Just booked the airline and first-night hotel for a 10-day trip in September to France and Germany to visit the hometowns of my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (Ensminger) of my father's paternal lineage and great-great-great-great-great-great (?) grandparents (Mumma/Mumaw) of my mother's paternal lineage. Whew! Mattstall, France, and Grosskarlbach, Germany, here we come!

[Bigun]

Just booked the airline and first-night hotel for a 10-day trip in September to France and Germany to visit the hometowns of my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (Ensminger) of my father's paternal lineage and great-great-great-great-great-great (?) grandparents (Mumma/Mumaw) of my mother's paternal lineage. Whew! Mattstall, France, and Grosskarlbach, Germany, here we come!

 

[musiclady]

Just booked the airline and first-night hotel for a 10-day trip in September to France and Germany to visit the hometowns of my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (Ensminger) of my father's paternal lineage and great-great-great-great-great-great (?) grandparents (Mumma/Mumaw) of my mother's paternal lineage. Whew! Mattstall, France, and Grosskarlbach, Germany, here we come!

Wow!!  That's FANTASTIC!!!

[Sanguine]

Just booked the airline and first-night hotel for a 10-day trip in September to France and Germany to visit the hometowns of my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (Ensminger) of my father's paternal lineage and great-great-great-great-great-great (?) grandparents (Mumma/Mumaw) of my mother's paternal lineage. Whew! Mattstall, France, and Grosskarlbach, Germany, here we come!

What a great trip!

[mountaineer]

Yes, now I need to dust off my meagre French and German language skills to be able to ask someone if they know any Ensmingers or Mummas still living there.

[kevindavis007]

Yes, now I need to dust off my meagre French and German language skills to be able to ask someone if they know any Ensmingers or Mummas still living there.

Have fun.. Where in Germany are you going to?

[mountaineer]

We'll fly into Frankfurt and drive to Grosskarlbach, which is not too far, just west of Mannheim and Worms. When we get to France, we'll visit Mattstall, which doesn't actually exist anymore, but is near Lembach, northwest of Strasbourg.

[kevindavis007]

We'll fly into Frankfurt and drive to Grosskarlbach, which is not too far, just west of Mannheim and Worms. When we get to France, we'll visit Mattstall, which doesn't actually exist anymore, but is near Lembach, northwest of Strasbourg.

Is that anywhere near Baden-Württemberg?

[mountaineer]

Is that anywhere near Baden-Württemberg?

Yes, but we'll be just west of there, in the Rhineland-Palatinate state. We'll spend most of our time in the Alsace, though. I visited Strasbourg many years ago, but Mr. M never has, and we'd also like to explore some Maginot Line-related sites and wine villages.

[mountaineer]

Court Rules Copying Photos Found on Internet is Fair Use
Dick Eastman · July 5, 2018 · Legal Affairs   

This ruling will affect many genealogists who are building or are maintaining web sites:

A Virginia federal court has made a decision that photographers won’t be happy to hear: the court ruled that finding a photo on the Internet and then using it without permission on a commercial website can be considered fair use.  ... More

[kevindavis007]

Yes, but we'll be just west of there, in the Rhineland-Palatinate state. We'll spend most of our time in the Alsace, though. I visited Strasbourg many years ago, but Mr. M never has, and we'd also like to explore some Maginot Line-related sites and wine villages.

That is nice. The reason for me asking that my Great Grandfather and my Great Grandmother (on my mother's side) is from the Württemberg area. From what I have heard is that my Great Grandfather served in the German army before WWI and after his time, he left Germany. Also, the irony is that he had to sign a draft card during WWI.

[mountaineer]

One of Mr. M's buddies, on hearing of our planned trip, mentioned he has ancestors from the Alsace and will be sending details. Looks like we may add another destination, in order to take some photos for him. Fortunately, I've left made the itinerary and plans more flexible than on past trips.

[kevindavis007]

One of Mr. M's buddies, on hearing of our planned trip, mentioned he has ancestors from the Alsace and will be sending details. Looks like we may add another destination, in order to take some photos for him. Fortunately, I've left made the itinerary and plans more flexible than on past trips.

Have a good trip..

[Gefn]

One of Mr. M's buddies, on hearing of our planned trip, mentioned he has ancestors from the Alsace and will be sending details. Looks like we may add another destination, in order to take some photos for him. Fortunately, I've left made the itinerary and plans more flexible than on past trips.

Have a really good trip. Make some great memories, eat some great food.take pictures!

[Sanguine]

Court Rules Copying Photos Found on Internet is Fair Use
Dick Eastman · July 5, 2018 · Legal Affairs   

This ruling will affect many genealogists who are building or are maintaining web sites:

A Virginia federal court has made a decision that photographers won’t be happy to hear: the court ruled that finding a photo on the Internet and then using it without permission on a commercial website can be considered fair use.  ... More

@mountaineer, some of the comments are more informative than the article itself:

This is a very misleading title and article. Whoever wrote that quote obviously is clueless about this case. This is NOT what the court ruled. The court ruled, that a highly cropped version of a single photograph, which had been previously published online without any copyright information, passed all four tests of fair use. It did not rule that all, most, many, or any other quantity of photographs may be used by anyone, anywhere, for any purpose.

All that said, most people can use photographs found on the Internet, or anywhere, for limited non-commercial purposes fairly without paying fees. This is not advice, as it’s dangerous, risky, and potentially economically devastating to just use photos willy nilly. Fair use is a DEFENSE. You have to prove fair use, and that can be costly. Also not all nations have fair-use defenses to copyright. If you violate the copyright of some French or German photographer, you could be in real trouble.

This article is everything wrong with the common (mis)understanding of copyright by the general population, and some poor soul will find out the hard and expensive way due to irresponsible journalism like this. PS that great snapshot you took of great-grandma isn’t going to get much protection against use and fair use claims, unless you’re selling them at a good clip, and spent the $100+ to file a copyright on it. That old picture of great-grandpa from 1910 is public domain, so you aren’t going to get royalties on that, and I bet you don’t own whatever original copyright you did have.

Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. It’s a good way to drive traffic to a website, but bad at providing real, factual, and usable information to the community.

[mountaineer]

Good point, Sanguine. I guess the genealogy blogger assumed that old photos wouldn't be copyrighted, and thus available to other genealogists.

[mountaineer]

ancestry.com currently has DNA testing on sale, FYI.

[Bigun]

ancestry.com currently has DNA testing on sale, FYI.

Yep!  $59 for a regularly $99 autosomal test. 

[Elderberry]

Some ancient DNA research of the U106 tree. (My location on the tree: R-U106/S21 > Z2265 > Z381/S263 > Z301/S499 > L48 > Z9 > Z30/S271 > Z2 > Z7 > Z8 > Z1 > Z346 > Z343 > Y19620 > S6881 > Exact position not yet finalized.)
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h6ZFaJe9gUtwl2r2Iu33B5_kCc6er5n9oEthCe25wV0/edit

Ancient and Medieval Remains positive for the R1b Y-SNP U106 (and subgroups when possible). Compiled by Charles Weaver!

Sample summary:

Bronze Age: Europe (c. 3200–600 BCE)

c. 2275-2032 BC, Lille Beddinge 56 - Grave 49, Lilla Bedinge, Sweden, RISE 98, U106 > Z2265+ > BY30097- (FGC36477+)

c. 2200-1700 BC, Prague-Jinonice “Zahradnictví”, Prague 5 – Jinonice, Czech Republic, I7196, U106 > Z381 > Z156 > Z304 > DF98 > S1911 > S1894

c. 1881–1646 calBCE, De Tuithoorn, Oostwoud, Noord-Holland (West Frisia), I4070, U106 > Z381

Roman Period (roughly 1st century B.C. - 4th century AD)

c. 175-225 AD, 3 Driffield Terrace, York, England, 3drif-16, U106/S21 > Z2265 > Z381/S263 > S264/Z156 > Z305 > Z307 > S265/Z304 > DF96 > ~18274596-G-A > S11515 > L1/S26
c. 275-375 AD, 6 Driffield Terrace, York, England, 6drif-3, U106/S21 > Z2265 > Z381/S263 > S264/Z156 > Z305 > Z307 > S265/Z304 > ~22365047-G-A > S1911 > S1894 > FGC14818 > FGC14823 > FGC14814


Germanic Migration Period (c. 375–568 AD or later)

c. 380 +/-27 AD, Poprad-Matejovce, Slovakia, DA119, U106/S21 > Z2265 > Z381/S263 > Z301/S499 > L48 > L47/S170 > Z160 > S3251 > S6915* (negative for any current downstream groups under S6915)

c. 450-490 AD, Altenerding, Bavaria, AED 92, U106
c. 480-510 AD, Altenerding, Bavaria, AED 106, U106>Z381>Z156>Z305
c. 200-485 AD, Altheim, Bavaria, ALH 1, U106/S21>Z2265> Z381/S263>S264/Z156>S265/Z304>DF96>FGC13326>S22047
c. 420-470 AD, Straubing, Bavaria, STR 316, U106
c. 405-490 AD, Straubing, Bavaria, STR 393, U106

c. 550-570s AD, Szolad, Hungary, SZ 2, U106/S21>Z2265>Z381/S263> Z301/S499> L48>Z9>Z30/S271>Z2>Z7>Z8>(ZZ58?)
c. 550-570s AD, Szolad, Hungary, SZ 4, U106/S21> Z2265>Z18>Z372/S375
c. 550-570s AD, Szolad, Hungary, SZ 11, U106/S21>Z2265>Z381/S263>Z301/S499> L48> Z9>Z347>Z328> FGC10367>Z319>S1734>~2222759 2-T-A>FGC13489> hg38:20038474-A-C
c. 550-570s AD, Szolad, Hungary, SZ 20, U106/S21>Z2265>Z381/S263
c. 550-570s AD, Szolad, Hungary, SZ 23, U106/S21>Z2265>Z381/S263
c. 550-570s AD, Szolad, Hungary, SZ 16, U106/S21>Z2265>Z381/S263
c. 580-630s AD, Collegno, Italy, CL 84, U106/S21>Z2265>Z381/S263

c. 580-630s AD, Niederstotzingen, Baden-Württemberg, Grave 1, U106/S21>Z2265> Z381/S263>Z301/S499> L48> Z9> Z347> Z328> FGC10367>Z319> S1734>FGC363>FGC23165>FGC23143
c. 580-630s AD, Niederstotzingen, Baden-Württemberg, Grave 3a, U106/S21>Z2265> Z381/S263>Z301/S499> L48> Z9> Z347> Z328> FGC10367>Z319> S1734>FGC363>FGC23165>FGC23143
c. 580-630s AD, Niederstotzingen, Baden-Württemberg, Grave 6, U106/S21>Z2265> Z381/S263>Z301/S499> L48> Z9> Z347> Z328> FGC10367>Z319> S1734>FGC363>FGC23165>FGC23143
c. 580-630s AD, Niederstotzingen, Baden-Württemberg, Grave 9, U106/S21>Z2265> Z381/S263>Z301/S499> L48> Z9> Z347> Z328> FGC10367>Z319> S1734>FGC363>FGC23165>FGC23143
c. 580-630s AD, Niederstotzingen, Baden-Württemberg, Grave 12b, U106/S21>Z2265> Z381/S263>Z301/S499> L48> Z9> Z347> Z328> FGC10367>Z319> S1734>FGC363>FGC23165>FGC23143
c. 580-630s AD, Niederstotzingen, Baden-Württemberg, Grave 12c, U106/S21> Z2265> Z381/S263>Z301/S499>L48>Z9>Z347> Z328>FGC10367>Z319
(Graves 1, 3a, 6, 9, and 12b listed to same SNP - FGC23143 - based on their positive kinship status via the paper’s results - 12c is related in the paternal line to the SNP Z319). 

Much more at link above.

[Elderberry]

Using the new Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Haplotree


Sunday, September 30, 2018  https://ultimatefamilyhistorians.blogspot.com/2018/09/using-new-family-tree-dna-y-dna.html

Family Tree DNA has just released new a Y-DNA haplotree that is open to the public. Using the new FTDNA public haplotree can help you decide whether you want to do your own Y-DNA testing and whether you want to recruit others for testing. It can also help you better understand the results you already have. The tree not only includes SNPs from Big Y tests (recently renamed "Big Y-500" tests); it also includes results from FTDNA SNP packs and individual SNP tests. Roberta Estes wrote a good post on how to use this new tree here.

https://dna-explained.com/2018/09/27/family-tree-dnas-public-y-dna-haplotree/

I want to focus on how this new haplotree can help you with interpreting and enhancing your Big Y-500 results. It can also be a good tool for recording your ancestry. Let's start with a Big Y-500 test to see how this process works.

Your Big Y-500 list of SNP matches

If you took a Big Y-500 test, one of the most confusing parts about your Big Y-500 results is your list of matches. Below we see what many refer to as your step chart. The chart shows the "terminal" SNP which is the most recent SNP that you share with at least one other man. I put the term "terminal" in quotes because this SNP may not actually be your terminal, or most recent, SNP. Your most recent shared SNP can change if you test more closely-related individuals. If you have tested a father and son or two brothers, then you probably do know the real terminal SNP. Note the terminal SNP J-BY45500 and its four upstream branches.

More at link above.

[Elderberry]

Family tree of 400 million people shows genetics has limited influence on longevity

Genetics Society of America by Sarah Bay 11/6/2018

Although long life tends to run in families, genetics has far less influence on life span than previously estimated, according to a new analysis published in GENETICS.  Ruby et al. used a data set of over 400 million historical persons obtained from public pedigrees on Ancestry.com to estimate the heritability of life span, finding it to be well below 10%.

“We can potentially learn many things about the biology of aging from human genetics, but if the heritability of life span is low it tempers our expectations about what types of things we can learn and how easy it will be,” says lead author Graham Ruby (Calico Life Sciences). “It helps contextualize the questions that scientists studying aging can effectively ask.”

Calico Life Sciences is a research and development company whose mission is to understand the fundamental science of aging. So how did Calico get involved with Ancestry, the online genealogy resource?

“We wanted to get a sense for the contribution of genetics to life span, and that’s something you can study using pedigrees,” says Ruby. With millions of members, Ancestry has no shortage of pedigrees.

Fortuitously, researchers at Calico and Ancestry were connected from their time in academic basic research. Calico’s Chief Scientific Officer David Botstein and Ancestry’s Chief Scientific Officer Catherine Ball (senior author on the GENETICS paper) both have backgrounds in yeast research. They were involved in the Saccharomyces Genome Database project during their times at Stanford University and published a number of papers together.

So researchers from both companies teamed up to use publicly available pedigree data from Ancestry.com to approach the problem of figuring out the genetic contributions to human longevity.

“Partnering with Ancestry allowed this new study to gain deeper insights by using a much larger data set than any previous studies of longevity,” says Ball.

More: http://genestogenomes.org/family-tree/

[kevindavis007]

I don't know if any has tried this site yet or not, check out MyHeritage it is a decent site.

Also, I met someone from Germany (Baden-Württemberg) who is a distant relative of mine.

[Bigun]

I don't know if any has tried this site yet or not, check out MyHeritage it is a decent site.

Also, I met someone from Germany (Baden-Württemberg) who is a distant relative of mine.

I have an account there but find the site too hard to navigate. Much prefer Ancestry or Family Search.

[skeeter]

I have an account there but find the site too hard to navigate. Much prefer Ancestry or Family Search.

I'm upset with MyHeritage for including a small slice of Neanderthal in my genealogical background.