Excellent commentary MAC. With the wave of new members, I suppose some blending of cultures is inevitable. But those negative behaviors you mention should not welcome to any of us. We "long-timers" too can bicker, and we have done more than our share in recent times. I think it is fair to say that has been disappointing. But, the intellect and knowledge arriving here recently is impressive. Surely there is no need to resort to pettiness, name-calling or ad hominem insults. The quality of the discourse should go up - for the benefit of us all.
At least, I would hope.
I think the vast majority of us newnz would vastly prefer to argue facts. But here, as on FR, some people simply refuse to do that. The simplest way to avoid it is of course, to argue facts. The problem is that the facts do not support the pro trump position. The FR scream squad went down the path of calling us everything but white men over there. So we are pretty attuned when the very same pattern emerges wharever we go. We are simply used to it.
So in sum, we will be happy to argue based on fact. And when the poo gets flung, we'll go down that road as well. Not by choice, but we arent going to stand there and let a handful of people and their leftist crap do to us here what they did there whether the same people are involved or not.