EgyptAir Flight Disappears From Radar

[Texas Yellow Rose]

CNN)An EgyptAir flight heading from Paris to Cairo has disappeared from radar, the airline tweeted.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/18/middleeast/egyptair-flight-disappears/index.html

[montanajoe]

58 Passengers 10 Crew 2 hours late...

[BuckeyeTexan]

EgyptAir flight 804 from Paris to Cairo disappears from radar

By Victor Morton - The Washington Times
Updated: 11:04 p.m. on Wednesday, May 18, 2016

An Egypt Air flight from Paris to Cairo has disappeared from radar, according to multiple news accounts citing the airline.

[Frank Cannon]

They probably just pulled over for directions. Nothing to see here folks.

[BuckeyeTexan]

The plane most likely crashed into the sea, Ihab Raslan, a spokesman for the Egyptian civil aviation authority, told SkyNews Arabia.

According to flightradar24.com, the plane's last known position was above the Mediterranean Sea.

Egypt's civil aviation ministry said search and rescue teams were looking for the missing jet. A ministry source also said technical information about the condition of the plane was being gathered.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Reminder:

October 31, 1999
EgyptAir MS990

[A-Lert]

37,000 feet no distress call, and just disappeared.

[A-Lert]

Ship captain reported seeing a flash in the sky. Looks like possibility of an explosion.

[BuckeyeTexan]

There are some reports indicating that EgyptAir said the plane faded from radar instead of disappeared. How that's significant, IDK, unless it means a gradual loss of signal versus a sudden loss.

[A-Lert]

Latest report now says pilot made a distress call to the Egyptian military.

[A-Lert]

Egyptian navy picks up electronic  signal from crash.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Latest report now says pilot made a distress call to the Egyptian military.

Reports are that it was an automated distress signal and not a distress call from the pilot.

[A-Lert]

Reports are that it was an automated distress signal and not a distress call from the pilot.

Yes, but seems to be confusion about  when the signal was first heard and from where it originated.  It does appear to be catastrophic failure or explosion.

[TomSea]

EgyptAir flight from Paris to Cairo crashes in Mediterranean: Officials

An EgyptAir flight bound from Paris to Egypt has crashed in the Mediterranean, Egyptian officials said on Thursday.

The flight with 56 passengers, seven crew members and three security men aboard went missing overnight according to the airline. Contact was lost at 2:45 am Cairo time (0045 GMT) when the plane was just inside Egyptian airspace and at an altitude of 37,000 feet (11,000 metres).

30 Egyptians and 15 French were on board along with nationals from Iraq, Britain, Belgium, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Chad, Portugal, Algeria and Canada.
- See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/airegypt-flight-paris-egypt-crashes-mediterranean-377822798#sthash.pLS39xDO.dpuf

[rangerrebew]

Joint Rescue Team Deployed To Search For Missing Flight - Egyptian Military

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v8/wn/newsworld.php?id=1247218

CAIRO, May 19 (Bernama) -- A joint rescue team has been deployed to search for the EgyptAir flight which disappeared from radar screens early Thursday, the Egyptian military spokesman said in a statement.

"As the Armed Forces are following the developments of the Egyptian missing plane of EgyptAir, the search is currently underway by searching jets.

"Egyptian military rescue boats have also been sent, in cooperation with Greece, to search in the place of disappearance," China's Xinhua news agency reported the statement as saying.

The ill-fated EgyptAir MS840, an Airbus 320, was carrying 56 passengers - 30 Egyptians, 15 French and 11 from other nationalities, plus three security staffers and seven crew numbers.

The plane, which was on its way from Paris to Cairo, lost contact with radar at 2:45 a.m. Cairo time (0045 GMT) Thursday at an altitude of 37,000 feet (11,280 meters) and 10 miles (16 km) inside Egyptian airspace, MENA reported, quoting an official source in the Egyptian airlines.

The airlines said the aircraft commander has accumulated 6,275 flying hours, including 2,101 hours on the same plane model, and the co-pilot has 2,766 flying hours.

The plane, which was made in 2003, left Paris at 11:09 p.m. local time (2109 GMT) on Wednesday night for a scheduled three-hour-45-minute journey.

EgyptAir said it's following the situation through an integrated operation centre.

[mountaineer]

Mirror:

Egyptair flight MS804 missing: live updates as plane vanishes with 66 on board 'almost certainly caused by attack'
 Updated  12:48, 19th May 2016 
By Natalie Evans ,  Jon Dean
 

The former chief of France’s air accident investigation unit said the airbus A320's disappearance suggested a 'brutal event'

What we know so far:

•Egyptair flight MS804 with 66 people on board including one Brit crashed according Egyptian aviation officials
•But Egyptair say reason for disappearance hasn’t been yet confirmed
•Jean-Paul Troadec, the former chief of France’s air accident investigation unit, the BEA, said the disappearance suggested a "brutal event" and was “almost certainly” caused by “an attack
•The plane took off from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport at 11.09pm and went missing at 2.45am on route to Cairo International
•The Greek Merchant Navy has reported seeing a "flame in the sky" in the south Mediterranean   ...

Jean-Paul Troadec, the former chief of the BEA national investigation unit, said there was a “strong possibility” the plane disappeared due to a suicide bomber.

Speaking to Europe 1 radio station in Paris, he said: “There’s a strong possibility of an explosion on board from a bomb or a suicide bomber.

“The idea of a technical accident when weather conditions were good, seems almost possible but not that likely. We could also consider a missile, which is what happened to the Malaysia Airlines aircraft in July 2014.”   ...

More at link.

[sinkspur]

And, of course, the fear-mongering opportunist is up at 4 am cynically exploiting a tragedy for his own ends:

 
Donald J. Trump
‏@realDonaldTrump

Looks like yet another terrorist attack. Airplane departed from Paris. When will we get tough, smart and vigilant? Great hate and sickness!

[BuckeyeTexan]

We could also consider a missile, which is what happened to the Malaysia Airlines aircraft in July 2014.

When did we find out that a missile took down MH370?

[TomSea]

When did we find out that a missile took down MH370?

I think even Senator Cruz or perhaps Rubio have said as much. I'll believe them and not a kleptocracy.

[TomSea]

An EgyptAir flight from Paris to Cairo made two sharp turns before plunging into the Mediterranean Sea, Greece's defence minister says.

Mr Kammenos said: "The picture we have at the moment on the accident as it emerges from the Greek air force operations centre is that the aircraft was approximately 10-15 miles inside the Egyptian FIR [flight information region] and at an altitude of 37,000 feet.

"It turned 90 degrees left and then a 360-degree turn toward the right, dropping from 37,000 to 15,000 feet and then it was lost at about 10,000 feet."

Egyptian Aviation Minister Sherif Fathi said: "Let's not try to jump to the side that is trying to identify this as a technical failure - on the contrary.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36333992

[montanajoe]

When did we find out that a missile took down MH370?

A Russian missile took down MH 17 over the Ukraine in July 2014.They are still finding pieces of what is believed to be MH 370 in the Indian Ocean but I don't think they have found enough of it to say for sure whether it was a missile or pilot sabotage or mechanical failure...

[sinkspur]

I think even Senator Cruz or perhaps Rubio have said as much. I'll believe them and not a kleptocracy.

There is no evidence whatsoever that a missle took down that Malaysian flight.

[ExFreeper]

Debris Found

Two bodies and pieces of debris have been found in the search of missing EgyptAir Flight MS804 - just hours after the plane plunged 22,000 feet into the sea, it is reported.

The corpses, which have not yet been identified, were discovered in the south Mediterranean by a Greek frigate this afternoon, according to Al Arabiya news channel.

They were uncovered in the same spot as two large plastic floating objects, which were seen close to an area where a transponder signal was emitted earlier.

The objects, which appeared to be pieces of plastic in white and red, are believed to be debris from the missing plane, Greek defence sources said.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/egyptair-flight-ms804-missing-radar-8003055

The crew of the missing flight were threatened days before the incident, claims Sharif Mehera, a former EgyptAir pilot, who describes himself as a close friend of the captain of the Airbus A320 that disappeared.

He told (LINK) LifeNews that someone wrote a menacing message on the hull of one of the planes.

The message was in Arabic, and read: “the next murder will be the flight number SU-GCC,” Mehera said, adding that it was exactly the flight number of the missing plane and that all security services were aware of this incident."
End of quote.

https://www.rt.com/news/343512-egyptair-missing-flight-search/

http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/19/debris-found-in-sea-in-search-for-crashed-egyptair-flight-5892705/

[r9etb]

"It turned 90 degrees left and then a 360-degree turn toward the right, dropping from 37,000 to 15,000 feet and then it was lost at about 10,000 feet."

If it was a controlled descent I could see this being a loss of pressurization, followed by a breakup at ~10,000 feet.  A bomb could certainly do that.

The turning behavior is odd.  Could be some sort of control failure, or it could be evasive action of some sort.

[ArneFufkin]

The detail that jumped out at me immediately was the presence of 10 crew members.  That's a large number, even considering three were security personnel.

I wonder if EgyptAir's security protocols are different for their crew members than the general public?   

This might be ghoulish speculation -  but I would not be surprised if one or more of the crew members were complicit.