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To best aid his electability, whom should Trump pick as his VP nominee?

Ted Cruz
2 (5.3%)
Marco Rubio
1 (2.6%)
John Kasich
3 (7.9%)
Susana Martinez, governor of NM
6 (15.8%)
Nikki Haley, governor of SC
2 (5.3%)
Scott Walker
4 (10.5%)
Mia Love (R-UT - US House)
1 (2.6%)
Rick Perry
1 (2.6%)
Jim Webb
3 (7.9%)
Someone else (please comment)
15 (39.5%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Voting closed: June 17, 2016, 10:23:56 pm

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Offline montanajoe

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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2016, 12:53:29 pm »
 I view him as unprincipled/a changeling/just another liberal, which by definition is  a wackobird
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2016, 12:55:15 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on May 10, 2016, 12:41:44 pm
Hmmm! I view him as just another liberal wacko!

How is Webb a liberal wacko, bigun?   

(I edited , BTW, my post above - Webb is pro-choice, not pro-life.   No doubt Webb's views on the issues are a mixed bag,  but a liberal wacko??   That's the sort of characterization that gives conservatives a bad reputation as unreasonable in some quarters.   Then again, Kasich was a liberal wacko to many as well.   :shrug:  )
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2016, 01:08:37 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 10, 2016, 12:55:15 pm
How is Webb a liberal wacko, bigun?   

(I edited , BTW, my post above - Webb is pro-choice, not pro-life.   No doubt Webb's views on the issues are a mixed bag,  but a liberal wacko??   That's the sort of characterization that gives conservatives a bad reputation as unreasonable in some quarters.   Then again, Kasich was a liberal wacko to many as well.   :shrug:  )

If you hang with liberal whack jobs long enough it rubs off on you!   Becomes hard to distinguish one from another!
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2016, 01:14:50 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on May 10, 2016, 04:09:44 am
If Trump were a true conservative and had the credentials to prove it, he might get more respect. But he doesn't and he won't.

Maybe, just maybe, if he chose Cruz (if he were to accept on the condition he were to be nominated to the SCOTUS) it would give Trump leverage with the Senate...consent or he will as President of the Senate make life miserable.

Trump is unique. He's not a politician, he's not beholden to any lobby or ideology for that matter, as nearly all of us have wished for years, he's not afraid to disavow political correctness and tell it like it is.

No, he's not your average right-wing candidate but, he's a champion of the average Joe. With our country headed toward total ruin, we need someone like him.

You can't get on board with that...fine but, don't belittle those who do.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2016, 01:22:02 pm »
Rubio or Kasich make sense to help him in either Florida or Ohio.
I don't think it will matter much.
His negatives are still pretty high at this point.
He has got to have broader appeal.
A lot of politicians are worried about being tied to Trump, frankly, and with logical reasons to be so.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2016, 01:32:15 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on May 10, 2016, 01:08:37 pm
If you hang with liberal whack jobs long enough it rubs off on you!   Becomes hard to distinguish one from another!

That's not a serious response.  Oh well . . .
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« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2016, 02:38:40 pm »
Don't you think Trump will pick a 'milquetoast' kind of VP.   A yes man. A follower. Someone who be at his beck and call to represent Trump at Big Deal events like, New Mall and Trump Property Openings,  Going Out Of Business Sales, and The Selling off of American State Parks and Lands to developers??
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2016, 03:27:05 pm »
Quote from: wolfcreek on May 10, 2016, 01:14:50 pm
[Trump]'s a champion of the average Joe. With our country headed toward total ruin, we need someone like him.

Is this the same Donald Trump who tried using eminent domain to take some old lady's house away so that he could build a valet lot for casino fat cats?  Donald Trump is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2016, 03:29:33 pm »
I believe Trump will pick Rick Scott as his VP.  But the person he should pick to increase his electability would be Joe Biden.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2016, 03:39:36 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 10, 2016, 03:29:33 pm
I believe Trump will pick Rick Scott as his VP.  But the person he should pick to increase his electability would be Joe Biden.
**nononono* :nono: Stupid!  But for Trump, go ahead, it still won't get my vote.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2016, 03:41:23 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on May 10, 2016, 03:39:36 pm
**nononono* :nono: Stupid!  But for Trump, go ahead, it still won't get my vote.

He is not seeking your vote.  He is seeking Democrat votes.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2016, 03:43:57 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 10, 2016, 03:41:23 pm
He is not seeking your vote.  He is seeking Democrat votes.

Then why didn't he run for the Dem nomination?  After all, isn't that what he is?
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2016, 03:45:27 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 10, 2016, 03:41:23 pm
He is not seeking your vote.  He is seeking Democrat votes.
Then why didn't he run for the Dem nomination?  After all, isn't that what he is?  If he thought he could beat Hillary that easy, should have been easy as a Dem, Right?
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2016, 03:55:33 pm »
He is following the Bloomberg plan.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2016, 04:24:46 pm »
Honey Boo Boo might be Trump's perfect running mate:

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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2016, 04:38:41 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 10, 2016, 03:29:33 pm
I believe Trump will pick Rick Scott as his VP.  But the person he should pick to increase his electability would be Joe Biden.
That would be funny.
They'd both be running around saying goofy things.
Comedians wouldn't have to write their own material anymore, it would write itself.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2016, 07:57:20 pm »
Quote from: Bruce Campbells Chin on May 10, 2016, 02:26:32 pm
Well, that's exactly what labor unions have been saying for years, and their political advocacy tends to lean heavily left.  The "average joe" standard is what motivates Sanders and the left towards socialism.

I'm an average Joe business owner.

What are you, some sort of elitist?
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« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2016, 08:35:43 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on May 10, 2016, 04:38:41 pm
That would be funny.
They'd both be running around saying goofy things.
Comedians wouldn't have to write their own material anymore, it would write itself.

Are there any Republicans that meet your limited criteria of acceptable?
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2016, 08:55:36 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 10, 2016, 08:35:43 pm
Are there any Republicans that meet your limited criteria of acceptable?

I don't know how you assume I that I have a limited criteria as to who Trump picks, as it doesn't make much difference to me, but here goes:

Rubio to help him in Florida or Kasich to help him in Ohio, but I am not sure that would be enough to get him elected.
I don't think Rubio would accept anyway, from what I've been reading.

Biden, for the humor he and Trump would provide together, it would be like Abbott and Costello.
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« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2016, 09:19:17 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on May 10, 2016, 08:55:36 pm
I don't know how you assume I that I have a limited criteria as to who Trump picks, as it doesn't make much difference to me, but here goes:

Rubio to help him in Florida or Kasich to help him in Ohio, but I am not sure that would be enough to get him elected.
I don't think Rubio would accept anyway, from what I've been reading.

Biden, for the humor he and Trump would provide together, it would be like Abbott and Costello.

Why not a black or Hispanic fermale?
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2016, 09:31:00 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 10, 2016, 09:19:17 pm
Why not a black or Hispanic fermale?

Normal "ticket balancing" considerations aren't what Trump needs.  Trump has a credibility problem.   Trump needs a Veep to show that he is serious and level-headed about governing,  and that he is humble enough to engage the expert advice he will need - especially when it comes to foreign policy,  where his mercurial hot-headedness causes folks the most heartburn. 

Forget ticket-balancing or appeals to minority groups.   That's not what Trump needs.  Jim Webb would, IMO, be the choice that speaks most directly and fundamentally to the fears and anxieties that folks have about Trump.  He would also enhance Trump's cross-party appeal, which he'll need to counter the conservative NeverTrumps.       
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2016, 09:43:43 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 10, 2016, 09:19:17 pm
Why not a black or Hispanic fermale?

Sure, why not? Whatever he thinks he needs to do to get the votes.
Not sure what a "fermale" is, but...not that there's anything wrong with that, to quote Seinfeld.
(That two letters close together thing happens to me a lot on Iphones when I post from them)LOL
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« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2016, 09:58:33 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on May 10, 2016, 09:43:43 pm
Sure, why not? Whatever he thinks he needs to do to get the votes.
Not sure what a "fermale" is, but...not that there's anything wrong with that, to quote Seinfeld.
(That two letters close together thing happens to me a lot on Iphones when I post from them)LOL

I'm on a laptop, large fingers and at best a novice typist. Sometimes I don't see the squiggly line under misspelled words.  But then I'm just an imperfect Trump supporter. :beer:
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« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2016, 10:00:26 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 10, 2016, 09:31:00 pm
Normal "ticket balancing" considerations aren't what Trump needs.  Trump has a credibility problem.   Trump needs a Veep to show that he is serious and level-headed about governing,  and that he is humble enough to engage the expert advice he will need - especially when it comes to foreign policy,  where his mercurial hot-headedness causes folks the most heartburn. 

Forget ticket-balancing or appeals to minority groups.   That's not what Trump needs.  Jim Webb would, IMO, be the choice that speaks most directly and fundamentally to the fears and anxieties that folks have about Trump.  He would also enhance Trump's cross-party appeal, which he'll need to counter the conservative NeverTrumps.       

It was a facetious question relating to all the claims made here about how Trump is despised by women and minorities.
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Re: Whom Should Trump Pick As VP?
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2016, 10:00:54 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on May 10, 2016, 09:58:33 pm
I'm on a laptop, large fingers and at best a novice typist. Sometimes I don't see the squiggly line under misspelled words.  But then I'm just an imperfect Trump supporter. :beer:
...and I am just an imperfect Cruzbot. :beer:
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