Kirk Cameron Urges All Wives To be Submissive To Their Husbands

[Idaho_Cowboy]

I think Kirk is wrong.  I didn't mock him or ridicule him.  I think anyone who takes every word of Scripture literally is wrong in reading it that way.

You certainly have plenty of company, so with all due respect: Just curious, how do you read your constitution?

[driftdiver]

I think Kirk is wrong.  I didn't mock him or ridicule him.  I think anyone who takes every word of Scripture literally is wrong in reading it that way.

I certainly understood some of the posts to be intended to ridicule believers but perhaps I misunderstood.

If the Bible isn't accurate and isn't intended to be taken as true then what parts aren't true?  Who gets to decide?  I MO either it's true or the whole thing is fiction.

For me, I've felt Gods touch in my heart.   I believe the word of God is true but admit to not understanding all of it.

[NavyCanDo]

I agree with sink, let's have some respect for each other's faith here, and how we choose to practice it, and even those not believing in God at all. You all that are newbies from TOS may be still use to how religious discussions went on that forum, which always turned ugly.  We have done a great job avoiding doing the same on TBR. Let's not ruin it.

[Mod1]

You interpret the Word literally.  I don't. That's why even a discussion of Scripture is pointless.  And we don't have a religion forum here for that very reason.

You're right, we don't have a religion forum, because the arguments that would result are not helpful to the forum.
This thread is going to be locked before it gets out of hand, subject to review by the forum owners.

[Mod2]

My two cents, posted publicly:

It's a legit article to be posted and discussed.

Discussion of this sort of article is inevitably going to involve people revealing their specific beliefs.

The devil is in the details. That's why there are so many interpretations of The Word.

No one likes to think they are wrong.

Never heard of the guy and rather glad I haven't.

REALLY glad we don't have a religion forum.

[mystery-ak]

Unlocked....for now!

[driftdiver]

Unlocked....for now!

Could you please clarify the sites stance on religion.  I certainly understand this can be a sensitive issue.   I also believe it can be handled by responsible adults.   I created an account here 4 years ago but only recently started posting.   From this thread and a couple others I've kinda picked up a anti-religion vibe. 

[newgeezer]

Well, well, well. Such an entertaining thread this is.

When I first saw the subject, although I know for a fact the advice is sound, it might be more effective coming from his wife.

That's only because it was a HUGE blessing to our marriage about 20 years ago when my wife took the advice of an older, godly woman and read the book, "The Excellent Wife: A Biblical Perspective" by Martha Peace (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/1885904088).

As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

[EC]

RAT - that post is damn nigh perfection. Thank you. 

[Free Vulcan]

Could you please clarify the sites stance on religion.  I certainly understand this can be a sensitive issue.   I also believe it can be handled by responsible adults.   I created an account here 4 years ago but only recently started posting.   From this thread and a couple others I've kinda picked up a anti-religion vibe.

My county GOP has Mormons, Catholics, Protestants, and agnostics in it. Particularly when the Mormons came in during Romney's first campaign there was a great deal of sniping.

Now not so much. Why? Because politically, we all realized the leftists are after all of us, regardless. We can debate theology all day, but politically we are all in the same boat and support the same issues. We lock arms and go forward as a group, protecting each others backs.

[mountaineer]

  From this thread and a couple others I've kinda picked up a anti-religion vibe.

Sorry to read this. I've been here since the forum's inception and never felt that. I agree that we don't need a religion forum, though. We're here to discuss politics, which is divisive and antagonizing enough.

I appreciate RAT Patrol's perspective - thanks for that post, RAT! This always has been a forum for all Republicans, all conservatives. We expect disagreement and the owners always said this is not to be an echo chamber. That's what distinguishes GBR from other sites, especially the one so many of us fled. I just hope that we can land on that common ground when the time comes.

[mystery-ak]

RAT Patrol....excellent post...you put into words what we here at TBR espouse..thank you

[truth_seeker]

I agree with sink, let's have some respect for each other's faith here, and how we choose to practice it, and even those not believing in God at all. You all that are newbies from TOS may be still use to how religious discussions went on that forum, which always turned ugly.  We have done a great job avoiding doing the same on TBR. Let's not ruin it.

I'll go further. We have essentially avoided explicit religion entirely on this forum. And it has worked.

And to drag in the FR religious arguments, has absolutely no upside, and tremendous downside.

If you just arrived from FR and that is your forte, please find somewhere else to do it.

[musiclady]

I'm going to add a different twist to this discussion.....

My husband and I have been incredibly happily married for nearly 40 years.  We are both Bible-believing Christians who believe in the inerrancy of Scripture (different from 'literalism' which doesn't account for cultural and literary dimensions).  We believe that the Scripture is the inspired word of God.

That said, we have had, from the beginning, a mutually respectful, egalitarian marriage, in which we both submit first to God, and then to each other (read the verse before the "submit to your husband" verse in Ephesians 5).  We believe that we live, both as individuals, and as a couple, not under the curse, but under Grace.  We also believe that God has one will for both of us, and if we are both seeking His will, there is no need for a 'boss.'

We have a peaceful, orderly marriage with very little conflict, and none of consequence, in which we are equals.  There has never been an important decision in 40 years on which we didn't agree.  And there is no sin in our seeing each other as equals.

I think there is a lot of damage done by oversimplifying the 'rules' and trying to get every individual and couple squeezed into the same mold.

Perhaps a bit more Grace is called for in discussions on these matters.....   ^-^

[driftdiver]

I'll go further. We have essentially avoided explicit religion entirely on this forum. And it has worked.

And to drag in the FR religious arguments, has absolutely no upside, and tremendous downside.

If you just arrived from FR and that is your forte, please find somewhere else to do it.

@mystery-ak  @mod-2   I didn't think I was creating an argument but I really don't need to be in a place that is this hostile to Christians.   Please remove my account.  Have a Blessed Day

[mystery-ak]

I'll go further. We have essentially avoided explicit religion entirely on this forum. And it has worked.

And to drag in the FR religious arguments, has absolutely no upside, and tremendous downside.

If you just arrived from FR and that is your forte, please find somewhere else to do it.

Good thing you aren't on the welcoming committee....lighten up and don't be so rude.

[mirraflake]

Could you please clarify the sites stance on religion.  I certainly understand this can be a sensitive issue.   I also believe it can be handled by responsible adults.   I created an account here 4 years ago but only recently started posting.   From this thread and a couple others I've kinda picked up a anti-religion vibe.

I don't think it is anti religion but the site owners don't want to bring religion into threads. After this thread I can see why.

[mystery-ak]

It was locked...I am locking it again..