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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #1376 on: September 05, 2017, 09:23:05 pm »
Seth MacFarlane's The Orville - 2 reviews

MacFarlane is lost in space with ‘Orville’

David Wiegand
San Francisco Chronicle
September 3, 2017

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Seth MacFarlane’s new vehicle, “The Orville,” gets a special premiere on Fox on Sunday, Sept. 10, but it is far from being ready for takeoff.

There’s something there or, more to the point, bits and pieces of something there, but it needs work. Boy, does it need work.
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The Orville Review: Seth MacFarlane's Somber Sci-Fi Dud Crashes and Burns

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Consider this a red alert to TV fans everywhere: Are you expecting Seth MacFarlane’s new Fox series The Orville to be a fun Star Trek parody packed with wall-to-wall jokes? Two words of advice: Abandon ship.

Despite what Fox’s official site claims, The Orville — premiering this Sunday at 8/7c — is not a “hilarious comedy.” It’s not even a comedy. Yes, there are a few Family Guy-esque punchlines scattered throughout, but as bafflingly as this sounds, The Orville is mostly a straightforward drama… and not a very good one, at that. Riddled with sci-fi clichés and paralyzed by a grim self-importance, MacFarlane’s shiny new vessel ends up being a colossal dud that not only fails to take flight, it short-circuits before it even gets out of the docking bay.
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« Reply #1377 on: September 05, 2017, 09:39:56 pm »
Dark Matter has been cancelled:


http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/dark-matter-cancelled-syfy-no-season-four/

Well suck! I liked that show. Interesting plot, nice twists and the acting was getting better.
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« Reply #1378 on: September 05, 2017, 09:58:33 pm »
Seth MacFarlane's The Orville - 2 reviews

MacFarlane is lost in space with ‘Orville’

David Wiegand
San Francisco Chronicle
September 3, 2017
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The Orville Review: Seth MacFarlane's Somber Sci-Fi Dud Crashes and Burns

Dave Nemetz
TVLine
September 5 2017
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Interesting... the commercials for it are trying to make it look like a comedy.  If people tune in expecting a comedy and don't get one, the show won't last very long.
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« Reply #1379 on: September 05, 2017, 10:15:05 pm »
I'm watching the original Outer Limits. The black and white version from the early 60s. What a wild ride. LOL!


This show has the cheesiest 'monsters' I have every seen. It's freakin' great. Also, I've seen so many actors and actresses that I recognize. Spock is there twice. Cpt. Kirk is on one, and so is Scotty. Many others too.


I am really enjoying it. You should check it out if you get a chance.


Most of the plots are fairly predictable, just like the more modern version Outer Limits. And, just like the modern version, many of the episodes are half-hour shows drawn out to be an hour long. But, I'm using Hulu so I can fast forward when the shows get bogged down in filler stuff, and I can tell they are just killing time. Like I said, I am enjoying it.
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« Reply #1380 on: September 05, 2017, 11:13:55 pm »
I'm watching the original Outer Limits. The black and white version from the early 60s. What a wild ride. LOL!


This show has the cheesiest 'monsters' I have every seen. It's freakin' great. Also, I've seen so many actors and actresses that I recognize. Spock is there twice. Cpt. Kirk is on one, and so is Scotty. Many others too.


I am really enjoying it. You should check it out if you get a chance.


Most of the plots are fairly predictable, just like the more modern version Outer Limits. And, just like the modern version, many of the episodes are half-hour shows drawn out to be an hour long. But, I'm using Hulu so I can fast forward when the shows get bogged down in filler stuff, and I can tell they are just killing time. Like I said, I am enjoying it.

David McCallum (Dr "Ducky" Mallard on NCIS) is in a couple of the B/W episodes from the 60s.  That was weird to see.

Also noticed he's in an episode from the 90s, though I never saw that one.
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« Reply #1381 on: September 05, 2017, 11:23:32 pm »
David McCallum (Dr "Ducky" Mallard on NCIS) is in a couple of the B/W episodes from the 60s.  That was weird to see.

Also noticed he's in an episode from the 90s, though I never saw that one.


In the color 95 version of outer limits, again, you will see a lot of actors that you recognize. I haven't watched it in a while, but I remember seeing so many of the main characters from TNG and Voyager. I don't know what the connection is between Outer Limits and Star Trek but it seems to exist. It is almost like Outer Limits was a casting call for all the various Star Trek series.
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« Reply #1382 on: September 05, 2017, 11:31:00 pm »

In the color 95 version of outer limits, again, you will see a lot of actors that you recognize. I haven't watched it in a while, but I remember seeing so many of the main characters from TNG and Voyager. I don't know what the connection is between Outer Limits and Star Trek but it seems to exist. It is almost like Outer Limits was a casting call for all the various Star Trek series.

I don't know what the connection is between TNG and Voyager.
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« Reply #1383 on: September 05, 2017, 11:34:43 pm »

In the color 95 version of outer limits, again, you will see a lot of actors that you recognize. I haven't watched it in a while, but I remember seeing so many of the main characters from TNG and Voyager. I don't know what the connection is between Outer Limits and Star Trek but it seems to exist. It is almost like Outer Limits was a casting call for all the various Star Trek series.


I think most of the Star Trek actors did it for work. The only exception was with Leonard when he remade an episode of the Outer Limits (which was directed by his son).


The only problem I had with the original Outer Limits it seemed to be anti space travel.
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« Reply #1384 on: September 05, 2017, 11:38:03 pm »
Alot of sci-fi actors get recycled into new shows, partly because I think it takes a certain type of actor to pull it off. We've all seen even big names who couldn't do sci-fi and it isn't pretty.
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« Reply #1385 on: September 05, 2017, 11:48:13 pm »
Alot of sci-fi actors get recycled into new shows, partly because I think it takes a certain type of actor to pull it off. We've all seen even big names who couldn't do sci-fi and it isn't pretty.


Seems to be. In agreement with your post, speaking of the 95 version Outer Limits, I left out that in addition to TNG and Voyager, there are also several Stargate characters in the episodes.


Just like you are saying, it seems that Outer Limits was a big checkmark on your resume' for getting future SciFi roles. It seemed to open doors.
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« Reply #1386 on: September 05, 2017, 11:48:41 pm »
Alot of sci-fi actors get recycled into new shows, partly because I think it takes a certain type of actor to pull it off. We've all seen even big names who couldn't do sci-fi and it isn't pretty.


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« Reply #1387 on: September 10, 2017, 11:40:12 am »
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« Reply #1388 on: September 10, 2017, 11:13:58 pm »
Looking forward to "The Orville" tonight at 8 on FOX.

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« Reply #1389 on: September 10, 2017, 11:16:25 pm »
Looking forward to "The Orville" tonight at 8 on FOX.


Hope it is decent.
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« Reply #1390 on: September 10, 2017, 11:19:40 pm »

Hope it is decent.

My sister just got home from seeing "IT". She says it was only a little better than the first attempt.

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« Reply #1391 on: September 10, 2017, 11:20:52 pm »
My sister just got home from seeing "IT". She says it was only a little better than the first attempt.


Ok, I'll wait until it is streaming.
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« Reply #1392 on: September 10, 2017, 11:33:40 pm »

Ok, I'll wait until it is streaming.

The real problem is that King just doesn't translate to film well.

Insomnia would be an awesome movie if it could be made but I doubt it can be. It had some crossover with the Dark Tower series.

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« Reply #1393 on: September 10, 2017, 11:35:30 pm »
The real problem is that King just doesn't translate to film well.

Insomnia would be an awesome movie if it could be made but I doubt it can be. It had some crossover with the Dark Tower series.


King translates better into TV than the movie.
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« Reply #1394 on: September 10, 2017, 11:37:41 pm »

King translates better into TV than the movie.

True. The Stand turned out pretty well.

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« Reply #1395 on: September 10, 2017, 11:41:24 pm »
True. The Stand turned out pretty well.


That and The Shinning was the last two good ones.
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« Reply #1396 on: September 11, 2017, 02:16:13 am »

Hope it is decent.

From the maker of "Family Guy"?   I doubt it.

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« Reply #1397 on: September 11, 2017, 02:23:39 am »

Hope it is decent.

It was OK for a pilot. It has potential.

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« Reply #1398 on: September 11, 2017, 01:49:44 pm »
I saw the premier episode of The Orville last night. Using the standard four star (****) critic scale, I gave it one star  (*).

Maybe it will get better as the series progresses (or maybe the episode will get better if I rewatch it).

The audience, overall, liked it:

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« Reply #1399 on: September 11, 2017, 02:53:04 pm »
I saw the premier episode of The Orville last night. Using the standard four star (****) critic scale, I gave it one star  (*).

Maybe it will get better as the series progresses (or maybe the episode will get better if I rewatch it).

The audience, overall, liked it:

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It was a pilot which in my opinion tend to be the worst of any series.