HISPANIC Celebrities: Vote Against ‘Anti-Immigrant, Anti-Latino’ GOP Presidential Field

[HAPPY2BME]

Nearly two dozen Hispanic celebrities say they have signed on to an open letter urging the Latino community to reject Republican presidential candidates because they are “pandering to the anti-immigrant base of the Republican Party.”

In a missive penned in both English and Spanish, celebrities like actor Benjamin Bratt, actress America Ferrera, singer Carlos Santana, and comedian George Lopez accuse the GOP presidential field of promoting an “anti-immigrant, anti-Latino agenda.”

“There’s no coming back from this,” the letter, a project of the liberal People for the American Way, reads. “We’ve seen clearly that all the leading Republican candidates have sided with the far-right at the expense of the Latino community. They’re capitalizing on negative stereotypes and inaccurate information about our community in order to win votes from the GOP base.”

The letter takes particular aim at GOP frontrunner Donald Trump for his comments about illegal immigrants and for kicking Univision anchor Jorge Ramos out of a press conference. Ramos was allowed back into the event shortly thereafter. The authors do not, however, exempt the rest of the field from criticism.

“Candidates – including supposed ‘moderates’ like Jeb Bush and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) – used dangerous, divisive rhetoric and proposed harmful policies in their efforts to win over Trump’s radical supporters,” the celebrities write. “Jeb Bush’s unapologetic use of the term ‘anchor babies’ aligns with his belief that undocumented immigrants here in the U.S. should not have a path to citizenship.”

The letter continues, chastising Bush for saying, “We should not have a multicultural society” and Rubio for saying, “We must secure our border, the physical border, with a wall, absolutely.”

“The candidates cannot come back from these hardline stances. Trump is certainly an outlier for his racist remarks. But the rest of the Republican presidential candidates went off the deep end with him,” the letter reads.

“Our communities have the power to decide who wins in the 2016 election. We hope that power is used to vote for candidates who support our community, share our values, and will fight for working families. Neither Trump nor any of his fellow Republican candidates meet that standard,” it added.

The celebrities who signed the letter include: Yancey Arias, Esteban Benito, Benjamin Bratt, Peter Bratt, Raúl Castillo, Ivonne Coll, Wilson Cruz, Giselle Fernandez, America Ferrera, Mike Gomez, Lisa Guerrero, Dolores Huerta, Eva LaRue, George Lopez, Rick Najera, José-Luis Orozco, Aubrey Plaza, Steven Michael Quezada, Judy Reyes, Zoe Saldana, Miguel Sandoval, Carlos Santana, Lauren Vélez.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/11/hispanic-celebrities-vote-against-anti-immigrant-anti-latino-gop-presidential-field/

[HAPPY2BME]

People for the American Way

Organizations Funded Directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute

Organizations that, in recent years, have received direct funding and assistance from George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI) include the following.

People for the American Way: This group opposes the Patriot Act, anti-terrorism measures generally, and the allegedly growing influence of the "religious right."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

[sinkspur]

If Trump is the nominee, he'll be lucky to get 10% of the Hispanic vote.

[truth_seeker]

This does not surprise me. You cannot disrespect people openly, then expect respect or support from them.

Trump disrespected veterans when he slammed John McCain and he disrespected Hispanics when he went too far about them too. He also disrespected disabled people.

He seems much toned down since. Should Trump be the GOP nominee, I predict a democrat win anyway. Should Ted Cruz be the GOP nominee I predict a democrat win. The Senate is gone, whether the GOP wins the Presidency or not.

More divided government.

[Scottftlc]

"The letter continues, chastising Bush for saying, “We should not have a multicultural society” and Rubio for saying, “We must secure our border, the physical border, with a wall, absolutely.”

So basically, they want to hold the country hostage.  They are saying - "we take over and you will do as we allow you to do"

This is what the Muslims are telling Europe.  Well, if I didn't disrespect them before, I certainly do now.

[Fishrrman]

I'm with you, Scott.

Let the Hispanics keep their votes.

We'll win without 'em!

[aligncare]

I'm with you, Scott.

Let the Hispanics keep their votes.

We'll win without 'em!

Roughly 50% of eligible voters don't vote. If things were properly explained and understood by those non-voters, an entire revolution could occur.

[HonestJohn]

Our current crop of candidates are doing their absolute best to motivate Hispanics.  Motivate Hispanics to vote in this election cycle... for anyone but them.

Not smart.

The James Baker strategy of "F@#k the <insert group here>, they don't vote for us anyway!" is not a good way to win votes.

[MACVSOG68]

Maybe you need to read the part where it says the letter comes from People for the American Way which is a super liberal group. Why don't you say the same thing about
the woman's vote when liberal female groups spout nonsense about conservatives?

No, your statement, Let the Hispanics keep their votes. , is way off base and sounds very anti-Hispanic. We should be encouraging conservative leaning Hispanics to join the conservative movement.
(Of course, Trump is not a part of that movement)

Agree completely.  And not only should we be encouraging conservative leaning Hispanics to join the movement, but even more so we need to show the greater Latino community why conservatism is a political ideology to be embraced.  But as long as we feel we don't need them, and they listen to the Democrats offering them everything, it won't be easy.  They don't give a damn about the national debt; few are in higher tax brackets.  Higher taxes on the upper classes sounds good to them.  In tonight's debate Sanders and Clinton are embracing Hispanics, blacks, women, gays, the poor, the old.  Meanwhile we're telling the fastest growing demographic to go to Hell.  Bush won in '04 with 44% of the Hispanic vote.  Romney got 23%.  Someone said earlier here that Trump would not get 10%.  If that happens, Republicans will simply not have a prayer in November.

[Scottftlc]

Well, we can say what we will about Trump, but the quotes that incensed them that I posted were from Bush and Rubio.  They want to hold the rest of the country hostage to their votes, they were saying to Bush and Rubio that their positions weren't close to good enough for them.  If that's the case the only place we can go to compete is into a bidding war with Sanders and Hillary.  If that's the case, forget it, let 'em love the outright despotic socialism that governed the lands they came from, because they'll get it here too.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Roughly 50% of eligible voters don't vote. If things were properly explained and understood by those non-voters, an entire revolution could occur.

That assumes that they have not already heard the proper argument and rejected it.  It also assumes any argument would be heard.  I believe many eligible voters will be satisfied with either the GOP or rat candidate.  They don't understand politics and they don't want to take the time to understand.  They have jobs and families and commitments.  They figure the library and police will still be funded no matter who runs Congress or the Whitehouse. 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Agree completely.  And not only should we be encouraging conservative leaning Hispanics to join the movement, but even more so we need to show the greater Latino community why conservatism is a political ideology to be embraced.  But as long as we feel we don't need them, and they listen to the Democrats offering them everything, it won't be easy.  They don't give a damn about the national debt; few are in higher tax brackets.  Higher taxes on the upper classes sounds good to them.  In tonight's debate Sanders and Clinton are embracing Hispanics, blacks, women, gays, the poor, the old.  Meanwhile we're telling the fastest growing demographic to go to Hell.  Bush won in '04 with 44% of the Hispanic vote.  Romney got 23%.  Someone said earlier here that Trump would not get 10%.  If that happens, Republicans will simply not have a prayer in November.

This is the reason I am excited about Cruz and Rubio. 

Great post Mac.

[Scottftlc]

They want to hold the rest of the country hostage to their votes The they you speak of seems to be liberal group People for the American Way. Second, the Hispanics that will be voting were born here and so would be going nowhere when you tell them to go to the lands they came from.

I didn't tell them to go anywhere.  I said they can learn to be happy with the same kind of government that ruled the lands that they immigrated from (I assumed they considered themselves immigrants because they were referring to "the anti-immigrant Republican Party"), because that is where this country is headed.  Nevertheless, I never suggested they should go back to those countries. I assumed they are citizens as they were talking about voting.

I'm glad this is a leftist identified group...but I suspect that leftism appeals to quite a large cohort of that particular demographic.

[truth_seeker]

Many identifying Hispanics in the USA are 2nd, 3rd or more generation native born citizens.

Many have served in the military, or family members have. But like all ethnic groups, they have a degree of empathy for others like themselves.

They may identify for example, with poor agricultural workers' plights, because that might have been how their grandparents first came to the US.

It was established after the 2012 loss, that the GOP needed to work hard to gain Hispanic voters. But the first utterances of Trump pretty much set the stage for the nativist competition, over who wants to build a bigger, higher wall, faster, and have the filthy mescins do it themselves for no pay, damn them.

The damage has been done. The post election autopsy will likely reveal the democrat got as many or more Hispanic voters as Obama, the GOP had no improvements, and it is even worse for 2020.

*The Truth is if you want to be against anybody, be against muslims. They want to kill you. Be against blacks, because they are institutional wards of the govt. and intend to stay that way. Be for Hispanics, because they want to work and prosper.

[Scottftlc]

*The Truth is if you want to be against anybody, be against muslims. They want to kill you. Be against blacks, because they are institutional wards of the govt. and intend to stay that way. Be for Hispanics, because they want to work and prosper.

While I agree with this sentiment (though there are plenty of blacks that don't fit that either), when a population makes the standard for their support be that you must forfeit control of your border and take in an uncontrolled and unlimited number of their demographic cohort then where is the meeting ground? That is taking your country hostage. According to this, even Bush and Rubio have unacceptable positions. What then?

[Formerly Once-Ler]

You are correct. I apologize. I misread your post and you did not suggest they go back to those countries. Passion at times blurs reading capability.

It takes a self confident person to admit a mistake cuky.  respect.

[Luis Gonzalez]

This does not surprise me. You cannot disrespect people openly, then expect respect or support from them.

Trump disrespected veterans when he slammed John McCain and he disrespected Hispanics when he went too far about them too. He also disrespected disabled people.

He seems much toned down since. Should Trump be the GOP nominee, I predict a democrat win anyway. Should Ted Cruz be the GOP nominee I predict a democrat win. The Senate is gone, whether the GOP wins the Presidency or not.

More divided government.

[Scottftlc]

You are correct. I apologize. I misread your post and you did not suggest they go back to those countries. Passion at times blurs reading capability.  I also agree with the sentiment that a large percentage of Hispanic voters are enamored with leftist ideas. But, I also believe it is incumbent on us to work to change this viewpoint of many Hispanics as this voting group will continue to grow at a rapid rate even with a lock tight border. It is my belief that conservative Hispanics can be a great help in this endeavor to enlighten fellow Hispanics. I have also noted that you do not slam Rubio even though you think it is too early in his career to run for POTUS. That is appreciated. I will have to wait until the next debate to see if Rubio is able to perform at the level necessary to compete against Hillary or sanders. I will say that the Christie in your face attack is not something that a Hillary or Sanders would use. Not excusing Rubio and he will have to do better in the next debate.

Hillary will be nasty in a snarky way. The Republican needs to make her "eat" her past actions and counter her assaults directly.  Stand up to her and not hold back for concerns about likability.  Let's see what Rubio does, he's signaled a change, let's see what it is. Thanks 

[truth_seeker]

While I agree with this sentiment (though there are plenty of blacks that don't fit that either), when a population makes the standard for their support be that you must forfeit control of your border and take in an uncontrolled and unlimited number of their demographic cohort then where is the meeting ground? That is taking your country hostage. According to this, even Bush and Rubio have unacceptable positions. What then?

Most Hispanics that I know want secure borders, and the absence of disrespect.

The way that politicians talk about them, matters a great deal. Talking about them, as if they are all rapists, murderers was a huge mistake.

Most Hispanics in the US are native born citizens, BTW.

[HAPPY2BME]

Mapping the Latino Electorate by State

Mapping the Latino Electorate by Congressional District

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[MACVSOG68]

That assumes that they have not already heard the proper argument and rejected it.  It also assumes any argument would be heard.  I believe many eligible voters will be satisfied with either the GOP or rat candidate.  They don't understand politics and they don't want to take the time to understand.  They have jobs and families and commitments.  They figure the library and police will still be funded no matter who runs Congress or the Whitehouse.

Very true.  And there are those who knowingly throw away their vote.  There are several here and on a much larger conservative web site who have stated "If (put in the name) wins the nomination I'm not voting, will vote for Hillary, will vote 3d party, or write in a candidate".  I've been watching those debates on a couple of liberal sites, and while the back and forth between supporters of the two candidates gets heavy at times, I've never seen anyone state they wouldn't vote for the nominee. 

We are far more split on the GOP/conservative side, and many have said the Republican Party needs to fall.  Yes there are times when the GOP Congress has been a disappointment to all of us.  But to be fair, it's not the job of conservative Republicans to be out there pushing new legislation, changing the culture, moving the Country in new directions.  Progressive Democrats do that enough...more than enough.  The Republicans should be slowing it down, amending bills with reasonable alternatives, and yes negotiating positions.  We generally don't see what gets trashed by the Republican leadership.

In the current 114th Congress, of the over 8000 bills introduced, only 121 or 1% were enacted into law.  That 1 percent is less than at any time in recent history going back to the 1970s.  Without that balance, not only would more legislation move through, but the nature of those new laws might well be horrendous.  See Obamacare for instance. 

And now back to the thread...   

[Fishrrman]

Happy2BMe posted:
"Mapping the Latino Electorate by State:
http://www.pewhispanic.org/interactives/mapping-the-latino-electorate-by-state/"

Thanks VERY much for posting this.

In previous postings to this forum in response to those who suggest the "importance of the Hispanic vote" in the coming election, I offer this map in rebuttal.

In those posts, I predicted that insofar as Republicans are concerned, the Hispanic vote matters little vis-a-vis the white vote, because the majority of Hispanics are concentrated in states that are solidly democratic and not likely to change.

There are a couple of exceptions:
- Florida (but much of the Hispanic vote here is Cuban, and that vote tends to be more conservative than Hispanics from Mexico/Central America/South America)
- Texas (but a larger-than-normal share of Hispanics there vote conservatively, as well)

Arizona has a higher number of Hispanics than most red/purple states, but at least for now, the white vote overcomes them.

Looking at the traditional "red" states, there aren't enough Hispanics to make much of a difference.

Again, I will state:
This time around, the Pubbies' best chance is to "go for the white vote" as much as possible, in the battleground states.

That's where victory will be found...