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Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« on: November 25, 2015, 08:47:25 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/261258-when-it-comes-to-trump-rush-limbaugh-is-a-hypocrite

November 25, 2015, 06:00 am

Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite when it comes to Trump

By Travis Hale, contributor

In the summer of 1992, Rush Limbaugh saved me from myself. I was an 18-year-old high school graduate about to begin college, too impatient to wait for adulthood to come to me. So instead, I went in search of it the only way I knew how: by engulfing myself in presidential politics and the fascinating campaigns that summer between Bill Clinton, George Bush and Ross Perot.

Like many idealistic teens, I was at first drawn to the youthful Clinton campaign and Fleetwood Mac's cheerful command to "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow." But then I started listening to Limbaugh and it changed everything. I was working as a delivery driver, so I'd plan my trips at six minutes after the hour so as to not miss a minute of his show — a habit I keep even today. The way he described his belief in conservatism reached out and grabbed me and I've been a loyal listener ever since.
So it is not from a place of hatred or misunderstanding that I write this. I'm not a plant from Media Matters. But when it comes to Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, Limbaugh is a mind-numbing, frustrating hypocrite (with all due respect, of course).

His tacit endorsement of Trump, now occurring daily during his show, is almost impossible to understand. Listening to him gleefully discussing Trump is painful for those of us who have followed his advice for decades. Why? Let's break it down.

Look at the polls

For years, Limbaugh has lambasted the "drive-by media" for their insistence on using polling data to make headlines and drive the story of the day. Trump's appearances and speeches, for the most part, are Trump droning on about how well he's doing in the polls. It's often the only story.

Words mean something


One of Limbaugh's biggest criticisms of President Obama has always been the vagueness in Obama's message; in his way of speaking until he can think of something to say; in the blank canvas that he offers us to project our hopes and dreams upon. And that, when he goes off-message, he often misspeaks. Explaining what Obama meant to say has become a cottage industry for websites like Vox and full-time gigs for a variety of nationally known journalists.

When has Trump ever offered anything of substance? His speeches are meandering streams of consciousness, and although he claims each to be unique, they are often the same litanies of vague promises. Trump will negotiate hard with China and Mexico. Trump will make the military so strong it will make your head spin. You'll get bored with winning so much. Chinese bankers live in his building, which proves he can bring jobs back from China. Trump thinks reporters are sleazy. Trump will hit you so hard. And, oh, by the way, have you seen the polls?

Big government

Limbaugh has been the voice for those who believe in smaller government for as long as he's been on the air. So it would stand to reason that challenging Trump on even his vague promises to vastly enlarge an already bloated government should give Limbaugh pause. Apparently, it doesn't. How many new government agencies will be necessary to round up 11 million illegal immigrants, send them back to Mexico and then let them back in? How many billions of dollars will it cost to make the military so great your head will spin? How many government workers will be required to build the Trump wall, complete with a beautiful Trump door?

The Kardashianification of American politics

Limbaugh has long lamented "low-information voters," who, he claims, are responsible for the rise of Obama. It's not his policies that win the day; it's the fact that he's cool and hip. His celebrity overcomes all other weaknesses.

Trump took the money that his father left him and built a series of failed casinos. What else does he have to offer, other than gaudy celebrity?

The Limbaugh Theorem

Simply put, the Limbaugh Theorem is Limbaugh's explanation as to why Obama remains popular when so many of his policies lack public support. It posits that Obama is always campaigning against the bad guys or bad situations, even when those situations are of his own making. It's a disassociation in the public perception of him between cause and effect.

Just peruse Trump's Twitter feed to see the Limbaugh Theorem on full display. He's always campaigning; always ready to right to wrongs in the world. The problem, though, is that many of those wrongs will be borne from a Trump presidency. He'll be there on Twitter or on another stop in his perpetual campaign, making obscenely vague promises that only he can fix what is wrong.

I'm still listening, Rush. But I hope you are, too. We don't need another blank canvas in the Oval Office, gilded or otherwise.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 08:55:00 pm »
What a good little Alinskite. Don't like the message, attack the message. Pity you don't listen to Rush, you would of heard him nuke this argument today on his show.

Rush doesn't support Trump. What he has done is what he does for all GOP Candidates. Defends them from the standard issue sleazy lying drive by media attacks.

If anything Rush is pushing Cruz. Cruz is the only one he has been unrelenting in his praise.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 09:11:07 pm »
Limbaugh discussed this today.  I only got to hear a few minutes. 

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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 09:15:37 pm »
The author offers no evidence that Rush  "tacitly" endorsed Trump, he just concludes that he did.
 
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His tacit endorsement of Trump, now occurring daily during his show, is almost impossible to understand.
It's not almost impossible to understand, it's almost impossible to find - because it hasn't happened.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 09:43:28 pm »
The author offers no evidence that Rush  "tacitly" endorsed Trump, he just concludes that he did.
 It's not almost impossible to understand, it's almost impossible to find - because it hasn't happened.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 09:51:43 pm »
The author offers no evidence that Rush  "tacitly" endorsed Trump, he just concludes that he did.
 It's not almost impossible to understand, it's almost impossible to find - because it hasn't happened.

Of course Rush endorses Trump.  He  has NEVER taken issue with anything he's said and twists himself into knots explaining every outrageous utterance.  They travel in the same country club circles and play golf together.   He's losing listeners over it, too.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2015, 09:54:24 pm »
The author offers no evidence that Rush  "tacitly" endorsed Trump, he just concludes that he did.
 It's not almost impossible to understand, it's almost impossible to find - because it hasn't happened.

Rush repeatedly cheers Trump on.  I've never heard him be so openly in favor of any candidate in a primary.

And I also haven't heard him say that Trump supports Obamacare, the stimulus package or any other policy which conservatives (and Rush) have consistently opposed.

I'd say by his constant support of Trump and his complete lack of conservative critique of Trump that he actually HAS 'tacitly' endorsed him.

That's why I can't listen to him for very long any more.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 09:55:38 pm »
Of course Rush endorses Trump.  He  has NEVER taken issue with anything he's said and twists himself into knots explaining every outrageous utterance.  They travel in the same country club circles and play golf together.   He's losing listeners over it, too.

In some cases, listeners who have been with him for decades.........

He'd better start being more analytical again, or he's going to lose a lot of us for good.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 09:59:40 pm »
Rush repeatedly cheers Trump on.  I've never heard him be so openly in favor of any candidate in a primary.

And I also haven't heard him say that Trump supports Obamacare, the stimulus package or any other policy which conservatives (and Rush) have consistently opposed.

I'd say by his constant support of Trump and his complete lack of conservative critique of Trump that he actually HAS 'tacitly' endorsed him.

That's why I can't listen to him for very long any more.

I do that to! 

Doesn't mean I endorse him or even plan to vote for him but I do love the fact that he has the inside the beltway crowd tied in knots for the moment! I think it's the same with Rush!

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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 10:00:08 pm »
Of course Rush endorses Trump.  He  has NEVER taken issue with anything he's said and twists himself into knots explaining every outrageous utterance.  They travel in the same country club circles and play golf together.   He's losing listeners over it, too.

That's not true..he said today that he has not endorsed Trump........sink doesn't your wife need help in the kitchen?
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2015, 10:29:24 pm »
That's not true..he said today that he has not endorsed Trump........sink doesn't your wife need help in the kitchen?

I've heard him say he hasn't endorsed Trump, but I've never heard him say a thing against any of the absurd and vile things Trump has said, nor has he ever exposed Trump's liberal positions.

By not being objective about Trump, he has, de facto, endorse him.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2015, 11:02:47 pm »
That's not true..he said today that he has not endorsed Trump........sink doesn't your wife need help in the kitchen?

No. Of course he's endorsing Trump.  Every show every day at least one hour on Trump.  Most days more.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2015, 11:03:49 pm »
Congrats Sink

Rush has chosen to respond

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/11/25/hello_travis_it_s_me_el_rushbo_and_i_have_not_endorsed_trump

I'll believe him when he spends as much time on Cruz or Rubio as he does on Trump.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2015, 11:07:58 pm »
That's not true..he said today that he has not endorsed Trump........sink doesn't your wife need help in the kitchen?
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2015, 11:17:00 pm »
No. Of course he's endorsing Trump.  Every show every day at least one hour on Trump.  Most days more.

I'll verify that.  We were on the road both Friday and Monday and had him on the radio for the full three hours.  He spent more than an hour defending him on Friday (the Muslim registry issue), and then repeated the same argument for at least an hour on Monday.

And he almost never, ever talks about any of the other candidates.

That's what an endorsement looks like, IMO.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2015, 11:17:45 pm »
In fact, I hardly ever hear him talk about Obama any more.......
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2015, 11:22:31 pm »
I'll verify that.  We were on the road both Friday and Monday and had him on the radio for the full three hours.  He spent more than an hour defending him on Friday (the Muslim registry issue), and then repeated the same argument for at least an hour on Monday.

And he almost never, ever talks about any of the other candidates.

That's what an endorsement looks like, IMO.

I think Rush likes Trump personally so I understand why he would defend him. 

But, he should stop acting like he's not endorsing him with all this positive attention he gives him.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2015, 11:38:25 pm »
Talking heads are all about ratings and they chose the topic that gets the best ratings and right now, Trump is it.......
Not convinced Rush is behind Trump, yet... maybe later..

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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2015, 12:24:57 am »
I think Rush likes Trump personally so I understand why he would defend him. 

But, he should stop acting like he's not endorsing him with all this positive attention he gives him.

That's what I think.

For me he's losing credibility by saying he's not endorsing a candidate that he defends at every turn (regardless of what the subject is) and devotes at least a third of his program to every day.

If he's interested in ratings, he should realize that three quarters of his audience are NOT supporting Trump, and try to do what he usually does and remain impartial.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 02:10:00 am »
That's what I think.

For me he's losing credibility by saying he's not endorsing a candidate that he defends at every turn (regardless of what the subject is) and devotes at least a third of his program to every day.

If he's interested in ratings, he should realize that three quarters of his audience are NOT supporting Trump, and try to do what he usually does and remain impartial.

If I recall, on one of Limbaugh's shows he pointed out how the DEMS always stick together ... perhaps with Trump being in the lead for so long that is what he's trying to accomplish??  He talks about Trump a lot and so does the MSM -- Limbaugh is doing what he's always done -- giving a different perspective than the "drive by media".
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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2015, 02:32:24 am »
I listen to Limbaugh pretty often, and I don't hear him endorsing Trump.   He does express some admiration for Trump, but that alone is not an endorsement.  I have to admit, I like hearing Trump stick it to the press, dems, politically correct, etc.  But, I'm sure not endorsing Trump.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh's a hypocrite when it comes to Trump
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2015, 02:51:13 am »
If I recall, on one of Limbaugh's shows he pointed out how the DEMS always stick together ... perhaps with Trump being in the lead for so long that is what he's trying to accomplish??  He talks about Trump a lot and so does the MSM -- Limbaugh is doing what he's always done -- giving a different perspective than the "drive by media".

My problem is that while he is claiming to be attacking the drive by media, he is also defending Trump.   I have not heard him voice any question about whether or not Trump is saying accurate things.  He is also not talking about the fact that Trump has supported Obama's policies and praised Clinton as a great President.

He is going against everything he has ever stood for when he remains silent about Trump's liberalism.  He doesn't seem to care that Trump supports the most egregious socialist policies of the most irresponsible President we have ever had.

And by not being critical of Trump's deep flaws, he is losing credibility as a conservative spokesman.
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