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Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« on: November 24, 2015, 04:37:57 pm »
White Christians now make up less than half of the U.S. population, largely receding from the majorities of most demographic groups, with one notable exception: the Republican Party.

According to the latest results from Pew Research Center's Religious Landscape survey published Monday by National Journal's Next America project, just 46 percent of American adults are white Christians, down from 55 percent in 2007.

At the same time, according to the report, the share of white Christians identifying as Republican has remained steady, even equal with the share of the party that carried President Ronald Reagan to his 1984 reelection. Nearly seven in 10 white Christians — 69 percent — identify with or lean toward the GOP, while just 31 percent do the same with Democrats.

Among nonwhite Christians, meanwhile, 32 percent identify with or lean toward Democrats, and just 13 percent do the same with Republicans.

In less than a decade, the gap in Christian identification between Democrats and Republicans has increased by 50 percent. According to the data presented, in 2007, 88 percent of white Republicans and 70 percent of white Democrats identified as Christian, an 18-point disparity. By 2014, 84 percent of white Republicans identified as Christian, but the share of white Democrats identifying as Christian fell by 13 points, to 57 percent, a 27-point gap.

Pew conducted the massive survey by telephone between June 4 and Sept. 30, 2014, interviewing 35,071 Americans, with an overall margin of error of plus or minus 0.6 percentage points.

source: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/poll-white-christians-population-216154

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 02:56:25 am »
Here at the Briefing Room, some topics get lots of posts, while many or most get no replies at all.

Interesting, some of the threads that run several pages are often on topics that seem of little importance. The "outrage of the day" stuff.

But THIS subject is of REAL importance.
It's a harbinger of things to come.

In 1984, Ron Reagan won 49 states.

New York, California, Massachusetts, Vermont (Vermont!), New England, New Jersey, Illinois -- all solid red for Reagan.

When can Republicans expect see that happen again?

Now we scrape and fight to win even the "purple" states, and some of them are on the verge of "tipping over" permanently to the left, such as Colorado.

And each year, more and more of the "old conservatives" simply .... die off.
Who is replacing them?

Once again, the old saying:
Demography is destiny.
By permitting ours to change, we have sowed the seeds of our own demise.

We could have prevented this.
Up to the mid-1960's, it was the policy of the United States to limit immigration to those who were "like us".
And immigration itself was somewhat limited, with the Great Wave of Euro-immigrants having been shut off by the Coolidge Administration -- which had the foresight to realize that at some point, there must be a pause for assimilation. At least back then, there WAS a concept of "assimilation". Of course, it is no more.

Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

I wish I could be more optimistic, but I ain't.
Time is running out for the traditional-minded conservative Euro-Americans.
As the Indians were overrun by the Europeans, we will soon be supplanted by others with no real connection to that continent, or to its mores and tenets that comprised what is currently known as "Western/Christian Civilization".

At least the Indians tried to fight back. They knew what they were losing and gave it their best shot.

It would be easy to just point our fingers and place the blame... on someone else.
But we can't.
Because what's happening to America is our own fault.
We could have stopped it.
But.... we didn't.

So it goes...

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 03:32:47 am »
But THIS subject is of REAL importance.
It's a harbinger of things to come.

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Thank you.  In recalling modern history of the past thirty years, one must reflect on the many, many opportunities our elected officials have had to reverse course or build a new one away from where we now find ourselves.  The GOP has failed us.

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 03:54:56 am »
With the nation's populous increasingly non-white, nativist is the way to go for the GOP.  /s

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 07:09:53 am »
With the nation's populous increasingly non-white, nativist is the way to go for the GOP.  /s

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90% of Hispanics vote Democrat, hands down. 

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 03:37:00 pm »
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90% of Hispanics vote Democrat, hands down.
Not so in the case of GW Bush. But then he didn't call them rapists and murderers, like Trump has.

Do you blame them, every time they turn around there is some Republican disrespecting them, calling them names?

I personally know Hispanics that are 3rd, 4th generation native born Americans, and have served in our military.

Along come SOME so called "conservatives" and see an Hispanic surname, and assume they just swam or snuck into the country.

Look at the name calling of George Bush, John McCain and Jeb Bush. Jorge, Juan and Yeb.

Do you honestly think an Hispanic looks at this and then says yeah, these Republicans respect me and want my vote?
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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2015, 04:23:36 pm »
Not so in the case of GW Bush. But then he didn't call them rapists and murderers, like Trump has.

Do you blame them, every time they turn around there is some Republican disrespecting them, calling them names?

I personally know Hispanics that are 3rd, 4th generation native born Americans, and have served in our military.

Along come SOME so called "conservatives" and see an Hispanic surname, and assume they just swam or snuck into the country.

Look at the name calling of George Bush, John McCain and Jeb Bush. Jorge, Juan and Yeb.
Do you honestly think an Hispanic looks at this and then says yeah, these Republicans respect me and want my vote?

Even though it is a small minority of conservatives (the ones I call 'pseudo-conservatives) who use racist attacks to deride those who disagree with them, they definitely have a negative effect on the reputation of actual conservatives.

If I were a Latino and read TOS thinking they accurately represented conservatism, I would never vote for a conservative.

Unfortunately, the minority is very loud, and they taint us all.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 05:14:15 pm »
Not so in the case of GW Bush. But then he didn't call them rapists and murderers, like Trump has.

Do you blame them, every time they turn around there is some Republican disrespecting them, calling them names?

I personally know Hispanics that are 3rd, 4th generation native born Americans, and have served in our military.

Along come SOME so called "conservatives" and see an Hispanic surname, and assume they just swam or snuck into the country.

Look at the name calling of George Bush, John McCain and Jeb Bush. Jorge, Juan and Yeb.

Do you honestly think an Hispanic looks at this and then says yeah, these Republicans respect me and want my vote?

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It is looking like Trump will get the nod, despite the virulent disgust of Jeb Bush and the RINO globalist panderers.

Of course Hispanics have served honorably in the U.S. Armed Forces.  I have even met a 'Hispanic' Medal of Honor Recipient years ago, and I am sure he would be shamed and dismayed at the current state of illegal alien immigration from Mexico that the REPUBLICAN PARTY has allowed to prosper.  I don't blame the flood of illegal aliens coming in from Mexico on Mexicans, I blame it on REPUBLICANS who pander and fill their pockets from the CHAMBER OF COMMERCE lobbyists on Capitol Hill.

The said Medal of Honor Recipient would, I dare say NOT agree with Obama's flooding the U.S. Military with illegal aliens, thus enabling them to gain their 'citizenship.'  Not just theirs, but Obama has glued in 'citizenship' to not just the illegal alien enlisting, but their ENTIRE FAMILIES - further degrading both military effectiveness, but also insulting the millions of law-abiding people around the world who have been on the 'waiting list' for many years to come in the LEGAL WAY.  I use the word 'effectivenss' because Obama is allowing known Mexican gang bangers to enlist.  I can prove every word of this, but it is public knowledge and has been for several years now.   

Do you honestly think an Hispanic looks at this and then says yeah, these Republicans respect me and want my vote?

I look at this and  the Republican Party, who has had my vote for over forty years and say "Lying Bastards!"

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 05:26:52 pm »
What makes me chuckle, is the idea of opposing the Chamber of Commerce, since it supports jobs for Americans.

Yet in some silly world, people think that Donald Trump, would oppose the CofC like they want.

They think the Donald doesn't want cheap labor, doesn't use union workers, and they think every crazy idea about him.

Yet if you look at all the things he has said, he believes and says whatever comes to his mind at the moment.

--Universal health care, sure. Donald is going to take care of everybody.

--Eminent domain, taking another less wealthy person's property because he has the power to do so.

--Bankruptcy, stick your business failure on some other dumb stiff that lent money.

I do not dislike Trump. I am highly amused by his gullible followers, who don't think they are gullible. Because they don't think, they emote.

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Re: Pew: White Christians no longer a majority
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 05:37:49 pm »
What makes me chuckle, is the idea of opposing the Chamber of Commerce, since it supports jobs for Americans.

Yet in some silly world, people think that Donald Trump, would oppose the CofC like they want.

They think the Donald doesn't want cheap labor, doesn't use union workers, and they think every crazy idea about him.

Yet if you look at all the things he has said, he believes and says whatever comes to his mind at the moment.

--Universal health care, sure. Donald is going to take care of everybody.

--Eminent domain, taking another less wealthy person's property because he has the power to do so.

--Bankruptcy, stick your business failure on some other dumb stiff that lent money.

I do not dislike Trump. I am highly amused by his gullible followers, who don't think they are gullible. Because they don't think, they emote.

The most bizarre aspect of the Trump mania to me is that Obamacare is the single most socialist policy Obama has forced on us and yet Trump supporters don't seem to mind that he actually supports this dreadful usurpation of the freedom of individual Americans.

They don't care WHAT he actually believes.  Only what he says at the moment.

I find it frightening.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.