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Offline sinkspur

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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #75 on: November 25, 2015, 06:20:10 pm »
Quote from: Carling on November 25, 2015, 06:07:47 pm
Are you claiming that Muslims weren't cheering in New Jersey?

Odd that the Trump Haters have no lowered themselves to defend the death cult known as Islam in order to bash Trump, isn't it? 

Yes, I decided to not ignore you because I don't believe in ignoring posters, no matter what they post.

Maybe a few were cheering.  But Trump said "thousands and thousands" not on just one occasion, but at least two. 

Who's defending Islam?  I'm joining in demonstrating that Trump is a liar, yet you're joining in with people who are twisting themselves into pretzels defending this clown's lies.

I find it odd that no other candidate inspires such bile.  It's indicative of the man himself and how divisive he's become.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #76 on: November 25, 2015, 06:21:07 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 25, 2015, 06:18:54 pm
I was residing north of NYC on 9-11 and I remember being upset by news reports (I saw) of cheering in the streets of Newark NJ. If critics want to argue hundreds, not thousands. Fine – be happy, don't worry. Channel 2 in NY ran the story.

There weren't hundreds either. 
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #77 on: November 25, 2015, 06:24:48 pm »
Quote from: Carling on November 25, 2015, 06:07:47 pm
Are you claiming that Muslims weren't cheering in New Jersey?

I can't know for sure.  John J. Farmer Jr. the New Jersey attorney general said “We followed up on that report instantly because of its implications,” he added. “The word came back quickly from Jersey City, later from Paterson. False report. Never happened.”  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/nyregion/a-definitive-debunking-of-donald-trumps-9-11-claims.html

I am claiming that the lying liar Trump lied when he said “Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.” and later "It did happen. I saw it. It was on television. I saw it"

It wasn't on TV.  By now he knows it wasn't on TV.  He is wrong, and knows it, but unwilling to admit it.  He is willing to double down on his lie to keep himself in the headlines. 

Trump reminds me of Obama, Obama's failure to admit a mistake, and the mess that is now Syria.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm »
Who will be first to declare me a liar...?
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2015, 06:39:54 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm
Who will be first to declare me a liar...?

You didn't lie.  You speculated.

Trump didn't speculate.    He lied.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2015, 06:40:54 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm
Who will be first to declare me a liar...?

Definitely not me.  Happy Thanksgiving!!   :beer:    :patriot:
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2015, 06:43:22 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm
Who will be first to declare me a liar...?
Not me, but I will not accept your 14 year old memories as accurate without some proof.  Perhaps you did see a poorly sourced report on Channel 2.  I've heard sometimes the media has made mistakes.

The NJ AG says the reports were false.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2015, 06:44:49 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm
Who will be first to declare me a liar...?
Not me, but I don't understand the Trump bashing at all.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2015, 06:52:36 pm »
For those who care about THE TRUTH, you can look up "Trump pinoccios" which is a journalistic term for Lies, fact checking, etc.

Trump turns out to make up stuff, but his supporters also seem not to care, for reasons yet unknown.

Facts versus emotions.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+pinocchios&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikiuyKnqzJAhVMzmMKHZXPAQgQvwUIGygA&biw=1029&bih=553
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2015, 06:53:26 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on November 25, 2015, 06:43:22 pm
Not me, but I will not accept your 14 year old memories as accurate without some proof.  Perhaps you did see a poorly sourced report on Channel 2.  I've heard sometimes the media has made mistakes.

The NJ AG says the reports were false.

Oh, I agree I can't pin down precise details of the events I saw on TV following 9-11. I was constantly surfing TV and radio in those days after the attack. I'm sure in my memory many events are conflated. But the outrage I felt at Muslims in Newark NJ is not conflated.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2015, 07:59:43 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on November 25, 2015, 06:21:07 pm
There weren't hundreds either.

Are you calling aligncare a liar as well?
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2015, 08:01:08 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on November 25, 2015, 06:52:36 pm
For those who care about THE TRUTH, you can look up "Trump pinoccios" which is a journalistic term for Lies, fact checking, etc.

Trump turns out to make up stuff, but his supporters also seem not to care, for reasons yet unknown.

Facts versus emotions.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+pinocchios&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikiuyKnqzJAhVMzmMKHZXPAQgQvwUIGygA&biw=1029&bih=553

We're now being given liberal media "fact checkers" by Trump haters as some sort of proof.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #87 on: November 25, 2015, 08:06:26 pm »
Quote from: Carling on November 25, 2015, 07:59:43 pm
Are you calling aligncare a liar as well?

No. And I explained why in the following post.

What is it with you?  You're roaming the board, looking to pick a fight.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #88 on: November 25, 2015, 08:07:09 pm »
Quote from: Carling on November 25, 2015, 08:01:08 pm
We're now being given liberal media "fact checkers" by Trump haters as some sort of proof.

No. Facts are facts, and Trump is wrong on the facts of "thousands and thousands of Muslims" cheering.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2015, 08:09:13 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on November 25, 2015, 08:06:26 pm
No. And I explained why in the following post.

What is it with you?  You're roaming the board, looking to pick a fight.

I'm actually posting in non-Trump threads, too, which coincidentally are quite civil without certain posters participating in them.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2015, 08:12:10 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on November 25, 2015, 08:06:26 pm
You're roaming the board, looking to pick a fight.
Actually it is you who does this the most around here.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2015, 08:12:42 pm »
Quote from: Carling on November 25, 2015, 08:09:13 pm
I'm actually posting in non-Trump threads, too, which coincidentally are quite civil without certain posters participating in them.

Me too. They're civil because Trump is not the topic.
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Trump Embraces Conspiracy Website To Support His False Claims (Alex Jones' Infowars)
« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2015, 09:40:57 pm »
Think Progress is a hard left site, but did Trump really cite Alex Jones' Infowars in a Tweet?

Trump Embraces Conspiracy Website To Support His False Claims

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... Trump links to Infowars.com, a conspiracy website that pushes the idea that 9/11 was an inside job.

According to Infowars, the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary was a hoax, FEMA is setting up concentration camps and Andrew Breitbart was assassinated to prevent the release of damaging information about Barack Obama.

Even Infowars’ article doesn’t support Trump’s claim that thousands of Muslims were celebrating on 9/11. It’s simply a woman who claims she saw a “pocket” of Muslims celebrating. Similar claims were investigated and found not to be credible ...
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #93 on: November 28, 2015, 03:06:12 am »
Quote from: aligncare on November 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm
Who will be first to declare me a liar...?

Not me!  I was in northern jersey on 9\11 and the local news did talk about all the  muslims celebrating in Patterson.  The reason i remember, is because we lived about 15 min from Patterson and it was a tad scary that night.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #94 on: November 28, 2015, 03:41:06 am »
Quote from: Repub4Truz on November 28, 2015, 03:06:12 am
Not me!  I was in northern jersey on 9\11 and the local news did talk about all the  muslims celebrating in Patterson.  The reason i remember, is because we lived about 15 min from Patterson and it was a tad scary that night.

I'm sorry but sinkspur and Once-ler can't accept your memories from 14 years ago if it supports anything Trump has said.   :whistle:

They will promptly cite a NYT reporter to prove you wrong.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #95 on: November 28, 2015, 04:06:52 am »
Quote from: Carling on November 28, 2015, 03:41:06 am
I'm sorry but sinkspur and Once-ler can't accept your memories from 14 years ago if it supports anything Trump has said.   :whistle:

I can't speak for Sinkspur, and evidently he can't either due to the indomitable will and fortitude of "conservatives."  But I can speak for myself...and I already have "I will not accept your 14 year old memories as accurate without some proof.  Perhaps you did see a poorly sourced report on Channel 2.  I've heard sometimes the media has made mistakes."

Let us just agree, now, to talk past each other, Carling. We're going to do it anyway. :seeya:
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Re: Trump Embraces Conspiracy Website To Support His False Claims (Alex Jones' Infowars)
« Reply #96 on: November 28, 2015, 04:41:30 am »
Quote from: Machiavelli on November 26, 2015, 09:40:57 pm
Think Progress is a hard left site, but did Trump really cite Alex Jones' Infowars in a Tweet?

Trump Embraces Conspiracy Website To Support His False Claims

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Yes and CBS pushed phony documents, the NYT covered for Stalin, and NBC's former anchor is a serial liar, along with the presumptive Dem nominee for president.

Straws are fun to grasp for, I guess.
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #97 on: November 28, 2015, 04:42:25 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on November 28, 2015, 04:06:52 am
I can't speak for Sinkspur, and evidently he can't either due to the indomitable will and fortitude of "conservatives."  But I can speak for myself...and I already have "I will not accept your 14 year old memories as accurate without some proof.  Perhaps you did see a poorly sourced report on Channel 2.  I've heard sometimes the media has made mistakes."

Let us just agree, now, to talk past each other, Carling. We're going to do it anyway. :seeya:

Nah, I don't agree.  I'm going to call you and sinkspur out when you accuse members I respect as being liars.  If you can't handle it, man up a bit or ignore me.  You act along with a few others over the past few months has changed the way I post.  If you don't respect posters who support Trump (I don't), why would you deserve my respect?
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Re: Trump Embraces Conspiracy Website To Support His False Claims (Alex Jones' Infowars)
« Reply #98 on: November 28, 2015, 04:47:25 am »
Quote from: Carling on November 28, 2015, 04:41:30 am
Yes and CBS pushed phony documents, the NYT covered for Stalin, and NBC's former anchor is a serial liar, along with the presumptive Dem nominee for president.

Straws are fun to grasp for, I guess.

Perhaps an irrefutable source will suffice...

did Trump really cite Alex Jones' Infowars in a Tweet?

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I LIVE IN NEW JERSEY & @realDonaldTrump IS RIGHT: MUSLIMS DID CELEBRATE ON 9/11 HERE! WE SAW IT! http://www.infowars.com/i-live-in-jersey-and-trump-is-right-muslims-did-celebrate-on-911-in-nj-we-saw-it/ …
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Re: Trump doubles down on claim he saw thousands cheer in NJ on 9/11
« Reply #99 on: November 28, 2015, 04:49:06 am »
The irony of someone linking "Thinkprogress.org" to attack Trump isn't lost on me.   :silly:
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