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Report: GOP Elites Plan to Take Down Trump With Deluge of Anti-Trump Ads After Labor Day

Jim Hoft Aug 31st, 2015 8:54 am

The GOP establishment is very concerned with Donald Trump’s enduring appeal with conservative voters.
The party elites are reportedly planning a deluge of anti-Trump ads following the Labor Day weekend.

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    It’s no secret the Republican establishment is unnerved by Donald Trump and his lead in national and key state polls.

    And now, after weeks of assuming his support would be fleeting, there is a debate about how to take aim at Trump — and just who should finance such an effort.

    CNN’s Maeve Reston noted that most GOP strategists see risks in having the attacks come from the other candidates or their directly affiliated super PACs. So, she reports, there is conversation about what other group might raise money for anti-Trump TV ads.

    “There are a lot of donors out there who see it as much too dangerous, obviously, for the candidates, or their allied super PACs, to go after Trump,” said Reston. “So they’re looking to more establishment PACs to potentially take him down in post-Labor Day ads.”
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The GOPe better be careful what they ask for, they may just get it in a form they did not plan on.
If he is destined to fade away, better let it happen rather than try to force it.

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The GOPe better be careful what they ask for, they may just get it in a form they did not plan on.
If he is destined to fade away, better let it happen rather than try to force it.

After losing two presidential elections, the GOPe just doesn't seem to get it.

#1)  Trump has the money and has gotten the media coverage to come back swinging and so far has risen in the polls afterwards

#2)  Not too many believe the crap that the GOPe is spewing anyways; what the GOPe is going to try to convince people that Bush is conservative???   They were handed the majority and still haven't done a damn thing!  That is why Trump is polling as high as he is to begin with. What a bunch of freakin' dummies!
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After losing two presidential elections, the GOPe just doesn't seem to get it.

#1)  Trump has the money and has gotten the media coverage to come back swinging and so far has risen in the polls afterwards

#2)  Not too many believe the crap that the GOPe is spewing anyways; what the GOPe is going to try to convince people that Bush is conservative???   They were handed the majority and still haven't done a damn thing!  That is why Trump is polling as high as he is to begin with. What a bunch of freakin' dummies!

Exactly.
If the GOP makes an overt attempt to drive Trump out, I will follow him to whatever party he picks.

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After losing two presidential elections, the GOPe just doesn't seem to get it.

#1)  Trump has the money and has gotten the media coverage to come back swinging and so far has risen in the polls afterwards

#2)  Not too many believe the crap that the GOPe is spewing anyways; what the GOPe is going to try to convince people that Bush is conservative???   They were handed the majority and still haven't done a damn thing!  That is why Trump is polling as high as he is to begin with. What a bunch of freakin' dummies!

Bring it ON from the Party of STUPID. The RINOGOP will never get it and just make TRUMP stronger. They cannot buy him and more than he winning they are scared of a 3rd party. If a 3rd party comes about the RINOGOP goes the way of the Whig party and they know it. If a DEM wins , so be it, life goes on for the RINOGOP for a while. If they were smart they would support him and at least be on the winning side for once but To many would get CRUSHED if TRUMP or any other conservative come in to power, BEWARE of the RINOGOP helping Ben Carson take on TRUMP? The plan is to elimate TRUMP through CARSON and Ben needs the money and they know it. They then will take CARSON out for BUSHIE any day of the week. BEWARE :shrug:

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They then will take CARSON out for BUSHIE any day of the week. BEWARE :shrug:

Well, that would be the height of stupidity if that's their thinking.  They need to try it with a different candidate...Bush is the one candidate running that has absolutely no chance of winning a general election.  I suspect even Jeb sees that pretty clearly.
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Bring it ON from the Party of STUPID. The RINOGOP will never get it and just make TRUMP stronger. They cannot buy him and more than he winning they are scared of a 3rd party. If a 3rd party comes about the RINOGOP goes the way of the Whig party and they know it. If a DEM wins , so be it, life goes on for the RINOGOP for a while. If they were smart they would support him and at least be on the winning side for once but To many would get CRUSHED if TRUMP or any other conservative come in to power, BEWARE of the RINOGOP helping Ben Carson take on TRUMP? The plan is to elimate TRUMP through CARSON and Ben needs the money and they know it. They then will take CARSON out for BUSHIE any day of the week. BEWARE :shrug:

So...if what you are saying is true, IF Carson can be bought then he is no better than any of the GOPe and secondly running Bush hands the oval office to the DEMS. 
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It speaks volumes that the GOPe would rather concentrate on taking down a member of their own party instead of taking down a Socialist or a DEM.  Unbelievable. 
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Gop-elites  hate us more than anything. They might want to re-think this strategy, (yet I hope they don't) I know some people that haven't voted in YEARS. They all say they will vote for Trump. Anti-Trump ads may just piss them off more.


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Another report from an anonymous source, says gullible Republicans and conservatives reading forums, can be expected to believe almost anything posted.

That is reportedly true, when the plot pits various elements against each other, thereby creating drama, and conflict which holds high entertainment value.

That source points to the success of Donald Trump, to reinforce the attraction of drama, conflict on the Republican side.
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So...if what you are saying is true, IF Carson can be bought then he is no better than any of the GOPe and secondly running Bush hands the oval office to the DEMS.

NO. I believe Ben Carson cannot be bought but he does not have the financials or name recognition that TRUMP has at this point. Ben Carson is a great man and is brilliant in a medical capacity. However he does not have the street smarts as TRUMP or CRUZ in politics , yet. He needs more grooming to take on the sharks. If the RINOGOP can get a challenger to TRUMP their game plan will be to ride that pony as far as they can then KILL it and bring in BUSHIE or some other RINO with 10% of the vote. Nothing against Carson but more concerned about the sleaze balls at the RINOGOP and their ability to use people for their own agenda. :patriot:

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Ben Carson may be jockeying for vice-president.

He can never be elected President next year.  He has no 'Chops' in the arena whatsoever.  He needs to be Sec of State even, rather than VP, IMO.

It's obvious that he can be an expert negotiator and diplomat.  It's obvious that as an outsider, he's patently honest.

But, IMO, he's not going to say anything cross about Donald Trump.  Not personally.  It's not Carson's style.
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Another report from an anonymous source, says gullible Republicans and conservatives reading forums, can be expected to believe almost anything posted.

That is reportedly true, when the plot pits various elements against each other, thereby creating drama, and conflict which holds high entertainment value.

That source points to the success of Donald Trump, to reinforce the attraction of drama, conflict on the Republican side.

I don't know...I'd sure knock him off if I could.  He's about the only one who cannot win IMO.

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It speaks volumes that the GOPe would rather concentrate on taking down a member of their own party instead of taking down a Socialist or a DEM.  Unbelievable.

Trump is a member of the GOPe?


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He can never be elected President next year.  He has no 'Chops' in the arena whatsoever. 

I'm not even sure what you mean by no chops?   Besides being the nations most notable and awarded neurosurgeon, he served on the board of directors of the Kellogg Company and Costco.  He was awarded the Horatio Alger Award given to extraordinary self-made Americans, joining other recipients, Bob Dole, Dwight Eisenhower, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. In 2008 he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by George W. Bush for his brilliance, leadership and compassion, the nations highest civilian award. He has been 38 honorary doctorate degrees, and a 2014 Gallup poll found Carson the sixth most admired man in America. No other prospective Republican candidate made it any higher than number 17 in that poll.   
In 2009 a major motion picture was made on his life, staring Cuba Gooding Jr. called "Gifted Hands" which covered his extraordinary life.
Parade Magazine wrote this about him. "some say he would be a great man even if he never picked up a scalpel".
And Barbara Walters, "He works miracles on children others have written off as hopeless".

And when it comes to politics, HE IS NOT THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK when it comes to being a part in restoring America. It’s been a long-time  passion of his and there is no question that he is as much of reason to be sitting on top as Trump has –and in my opinion more so.    He is also a New York Times best-selling author of seven books, with his book, One Nation released at the same times as Hillary Clinton's book Hard Choices, far outsold her book for five weeks. Several of his books were wrapped around his passion for restoring America, with titles such as:

• One Nation: What We Can All Do to Save America’s Future.
• A More Perfect Union: What the People can Do ro Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties
• America the Beautiful: Rediscovering What Made This Nation Great
• One Vote: Make Your Voice Heard

Note:    During the same period Carson was writing these books, Trump was greasing political skids, with the majority his donations going to  Democrats.


So please stop it with the B.S. that Dr. Ben Carson does not have the credentials to be President.   
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Trump is a member of the GOPe?

No, not in any way calling Trump GOPe - merely stating that the GOPe would rather take out a candidate running in their party (Republican) than a socialist or DEM.
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Ben Carson may be jockeying for vice-president.

He can never be elected President next year.  He has no 'Chops' in the arena whatsoever.  He needs to be Sec of State even, rather than VP, IMO.

It's obvious that he can be an expert negotiator and diplomat.  It's obvious that as an outsider, he's patently honest.

But, IMO, he's not going to say anything cross about Donald Trump.  Not personally.  It's not Carson's style.

All I know is that the more people see of him the better they like him and that alone will take him a very long way with the general public.  The problem for him is that the people currently benefiting from business as usual in Washington will come don on him like a ton of bricks if the see that he is making inroads toward the actual nomination.
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I'm not even sure what you mean by no chops?   Besides being the nations most notable and awarded neurosurgeon, he served on the board of directors of the Kellogg Company and Costco.  He was awarded the Horatio Alger Award given to extraordinary self-made Americans, joining other recipients, Bob Dole, Dwight Eisenhower, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. In 2008 he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by George W. Bush for his brilliance, leadership and compassion, the nations highest civilian award. He has been 38 honorary doctorate degrees, and a 2014 Gallup poll found Carson the sixth most admired man in America. No other prospective Republican candidate made it any higher than number 17 in that poll.   
In 2009 a major motion picture was made on his life, staring Cuba Gooding Jr. called "Gifted Hands" which covered his extraordinary life.
Parade Magazine wrote this about him. "some say he would be a great man even if he never picked up a scalpel".
And Barbara Walters, "He works miracles on children others have written off as hopeless".

And when it comes to politics, HE IS NOT THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK when it comes to being a part in restoring America. It’s been a long-time  passion of his and there is no question that he is as much of reason to be sitting on top as Trump has –and in my opinion more so.    He is also a New York Times best-selling author of seven books, with his book, One Nation released at the same times as Hillary Clinton's book Hard Choices, far outsold her book for five weeks. Several of his books were wrapped around his passion for restoring America, with titles such as:

• One Nation: What We Can All Do to Save America’s Future.
• A More Perfect Union: What the People can Do ro Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties
• America the Beautiful: Rediscovering What Made This Nation Great
• One Vote: Make Your Voice Heard

Note:    During the same period Carson was writing these books, Trump was greasing political skids, with the majority his donations going to  Democrats.


So please stop it with the B.S. that Dr. Ben Carson does not have the credentials to be President.   

B.S.?  Good grief.  Give me a break.  It takes more than being a brilliant neurosurgeon and writing a few books to have the credentials to be president.  He has no political experience, i.e. mayor, city councilmen, governor, state senator, U.S. senator, state representative, U.S. representative, solicitor general, lieutenant governor, etc., etc.  Not only that he has NO business experience; he sat on a board of directors...not exactly a need to be business savvy.  He doesn't even have any experience with law; i.e., lawyer, judge, law clerk, etc.  Lots of people have won prestigious awards but that in itself doesn't give them the credentials to be president.  Just because he wrote a book that sold more copies than Hillary certainly doesn't give him the credentials to be president.  There are lots of authors that have outsold Hillary.  Does that mean that have the credentials to be president?  Hardly.

IF he were to have held some political office or been a higher up in the corporate world then I would say, ya he has some type of needed experience to become president. But to write a couple of op ed books or to sit in a board room and cast some votes doesn't even come close to giving him the credentials to be president. 
 


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B.S.?  Good grief.  Give me a break.  It takes more than being a brilliant neurosurgeon and writing a few books to have the credentials to be president.  He has no political experience, i.e. mayor, city councilmen, governor, state senator, U.S. senator, state representative, U.S. representative, solicitor general, lieutenant governor, etc., etc.  Not only that he has NO business experience; he sat on a board of directors...not exactly a need to be business savvy.  He doesn't even have any experience with law; i.e., lawyer, judge, law clerk, etc.  Lots of people have won prestigious awards but that in itself doesn't give them the credentials to be president.  Just because he wrote a book that sold more copies than Hillary certainly doesn't give him the credentials to be president.  There are lots of authors that have outsold Hillary.  Does that mean that have the credentials to be president?  Hardly.

IF he were to have held some political office or been a higher up in the corporate world then I would say, ya he has some type of needed experience to become president. But to write a couple of op ed books or to sit in a board room and cast some votes doesn't even come close to giving him the credentials to be president.

All of which may make him very attractive to voters who have had a gut full of all those "qualified" candidates.
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All of which may make him very attractive to voters who have had a gut full of all those "qualified" candidates.

Yes I understand that.  Because of lack of funds the only candidates that I see left standing will be Bush, Trump, Carson and Cruz.  They are all running under the "conservative" umbrella. Line up their "conservative" credentials and at some point reality needs to set in.
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Yes I understand that.  Because of lack of funds the only candidates that I see left standing will be Bush, Trump, Carson and Cruz.  They are all running under the "conservative" umbrella. Line up their "conservative" credentials and at some point reality needs to set in.

If I am not yet on your ignore list and if you will take my word for it that I only am interested in your answer and not in an argument (although of course these things can go on for some time as you know) what is it you want from a candidate in a list?

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B.S.?  Good grief.  Give me a break.  It takes more than being a brilliant neurosurgeon and writing a few books to have the credentials to be president.  He has no political experience, i.e. mayor, city councilmen, governor, state senator, U.S. senator, state representative, U.S. representative, solicitor general, lieutenant governor, etc., etc.  Not only that he has NO business experience; he sat on a board of directors...not exactly a need to be business savvy.  He doesn't even have any experience with law; i.e., lawyer, judge, law clerk, etc.  Lots of people have won prestigious awards but that in itself doesn't give them the credentials to be president.  Just because he wrote a book that sold more copies than Hillary certainly doesn't give him the credentials to be president.  There are lots of authors that have outsold Hillary.  Does that mean that have the credentials to be president?  Hardly.

IF he were to have held some political office or been a higher up in the corporate world then I would say, ya he has some type of needed experience to become president. But to write a couple of op ed books or to sit in a board room and cast some votes doesn't even come close to giving him the credentials to be president.

Dr. Carson’s qualifications to be President are certainly far more extensive, and greater than many, maybe even most  United States senators, most of whom have very limited executive experience. For instance, Washington’s Patty Murray “the mom in tennis shoes” as they called her.   Make no mistake, a number of United States senators have made very good presidents, just as have a number of men who never served in an elected position prior to being president.  But it can also be said that long time U.S senators are part of the “Washington establishment” which I thought was the Tea Parties nemesis.

And as far as Governors are concerned, only eighteen United States presidents served as a state governor. If you limit qualifications to someone who has served as a governor, you would eliminate John Adams, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, and Abraham Lincoln.

It is the height of arrogance to contend that only experienced politicians has what it takes to serve as President of the United States.

It’s like the old joke  - about a young man who inherited a huge some of money. This young man wasn’t smart, but he was wise enough to know it. So, he decided to use his inheritance to pay for a brain transplant. He went to a brain transplant center and asked what brains were available. The person he spoke with said that they had some incredible brains, including an astronauts brain that cost nine hundred thousand dollars. The spokesman told him about another brain from a surgeon that cost a million dollars. Finally the brain center spokesman told him about a politician’s brains, and said they cost two million dollars. The young man exclaimed that he didn’t know politicians were that smart. The spokesman assured him that wasn’t the case; it was just because it took so many to have a complete brain.

It’s the kind of joke Ronald Reagan might have told. And, everyone would have understood exactly what he meant. And You? 
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If I am not yet on your ignore list and if you will take my word for it that I only am interested in your answer and not in an argument (although of course these things can go on for some time as you know) what is it you want from a candidate in a list?

I have no reason to put you on "ignore", nor do I care to argue.  I firmly believe that Washington is broken and corrupt and has been for sometime and that the Washington cartel (both Republican and Democrats) are destroying this country.  Due to the vast amount of corruption in our government I am not so sure that we will even make it to another election.  In answering your direction question of what I want in a candidate:

First and foremost; someone with conservative principles and values that will honor and uphold the Constitution and who has a deep knowledge and love of the Constitution and Constitutional law.

Integrity.

Someone who will put the best interest of America and American citizens first and set aside politics.

Someone who will stand for liberty.

Someone with the ability to lead.  Someone who will lead us to restoring this country rather than keep us on this path of destruction.

A Christian with christian beliefs; the very principles and ideals upon which this country was founded.

Someone who will once again gain respect for our country around the globe.

Someone who will reignite the promise of America and who will stand unapologetically with the nation of Israel.


Ted Cruz 2016!  Imagine...


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I have no reason to put you on "ignore".  What I want from a candidate:

First and foremost; someone with conservative principles and values that will honor and uphold the Constitution and who has a deep knowledge of the Constitution and Constitutional law.

Integrity.

Someone who will put the interest of America and American citizens first and set aside politics.

Someone who will stand for liberty.

Someone with the ability to restore our country and lead us away from the path of destruction that we are on.

A Christian with christian beliefs; the very principles and ideals upon which this country was founded.

Someone who will once again gain respect for our country around the globe.

Someone who will reignite the promise of America and who will stand unapologetically with the nation of Israel.

Ted Cruz 2016!  Imagine...A Better Future For America! 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opdaTJKmWTQ

Ok but I think your defense of Trump on this site indicates that your main concern is how the GOP has failed you not that Trump is what you are looking for in a candidate?  Again I'm asking to understand not to argue.

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Ok but I think your defense of Trump on this site indicates that your main concern is how the GOP has failed you not that Trump is what you are looking for in a candidate?  Again I'm asking to understand not to argue.

I am not a supporter of Trump, but I am defending him in as far as he represents (so far) an opposition to the GOP establishment and has brought focus to opposing the establishment on some issues that no other candidate has been able to do.  He has allowed the voice of many to finally be heard.  I feel he deserves credit for that. So far he has been successful in connecting with those that realize that our government has failed "We the People".  I not only believe that the GOP establishment has failed the American people, but,  I believe that BOTH parties have failed the American people.  When, the majority of our 534 members of Congress allows a president to get away with violating his oath of office we have a very serious problem.  When we have Republican leaders who continually side with Democrat leaders then there no longer is a two party system which also indicates that we have a very, very serious problem.

With that being said, I believe it is crucial for the survival of our country to NOT elect a member of the GOP establishment.  We cannot continue on our current path of destruction.

I am uncomfortable with Trump's 3rd party stance, donations to the DEMS (connection with the Clintons), his "attack" personality and perhaps most troubling is his waffling on the 2nd amendment.

Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.