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« Reply #76 on: August 01, 2016, 01:32:31 AM »
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #77 on: August 01, 2016, 06:34:48 AM »
So was it actually Dunford that gave this order?

He was most likely just relaying it. The Iraqi government will not permit the Kurds to a foothold in Mosul for the same reason they are so obsessive about getting it back from IS hands - whoever controls Mosul controls something like 70% of the water of the country
(and a goodly chunk of the electrical capacity), thanks to the dam.

Masum and al-Abadi are neither blind nor fools. They can see that the autonomous region will be an independent state within 10 years irrespective of what happens, so they're protecting their own.
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« Reply #78 on: August 27, 2016, 02:24:55 PM »
Thanks @SunkenCiv

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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #79 on: October 20, 2016, 10:16:36 AM »
During the debate did someone say that Aleppo is a mess? Get Turkey OUT of NATO? Why or why not?

"Turkey claims air raid killed up to 200 Kurdish fighters in Syria raid"

"A Turkish air raid killed as many as 200 Kurdish militia members north of the Syrian city of Aleppo on Wednesday, according to the Turkish military."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/20/middleeast/turkey-syria-air-raid/index.html

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« Reply #81 on: December 21, 2016, 10:53:54 PM »
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Kurds in Germany: Fear is in the air

Following the attempted coup in July, the tense situation in Turkey has been mirrored within Germany. The Kurdish community here is growing increasingly afraid.

Ali Toprak doesn't know where to begin. The chair of Germany's Kurdish community advocacy group, the KGD, is shocked - and disappointed, not just in politicians, but in the German media, too.

"I've been on the ZDF [German state] television board since July," he says. "I get to represent the migrant population. Whenever I bring up subjects like this, there's embarrassed silence on the German side."

With "subjects like this," Toprak is referring to the rift in Germany's Turkish community. Toprak is afraid. In the interview with DW he speaks of a "witch hunt," and grows agitated. "Does someone in this country have to get killed by Erdogan supporters before German politicians will finally acknowledge the seriousness of the situation?" he asks.

Divided community

Around three million people in Germany, most of them Sunnis, Alevis and Kurds, have Turkish origins. They constitute by far the largest group with a migrant background.

Gokay Sofuoglu is the federal chair of the Turkish community in Germany. His organization aspires to represent the whole of the community, but at the moment this is very difficult. Terrorist attacks by the Kurdish PKK, crackdowns since the failed coup: Turkey's domestic political climate is charged with fear and hate. Will its internal conflict spill over into Germany?

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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #82 on: December 26, 2016, 01:04:39 PM »

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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #83 on: December 26, 2016, 05:03:48 PM »
@EC,

I'm not sure if I'm losing track of who is who there or not . . .

Aren't the Kurds . . . the tribal group spread across Turkey's border with Iraq? Turkey would like to exterminate them and definitely to not allow them to match up with Kurds in Iraq and carve out a country of their own?

Have always felt sorry for the Kurds . . . don't recall why.
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #84 on: December 26, 2016, 05:22:56 PM »
@EC,

I'm not sure if I'm losing track of who is who there or not . . .

Aren't the Kurds . . . the tribal group spread across Turkey's border with Iraq? Turkey would like to exterminate them and definitely to not allow them to match up with Kurds in Iraq and carve out a country of their own?

Have always felt sorry for the Kurds . . . don't recall why.

You are pretty much right. The Kurds are spread over a chunk of Northeastern Syria, Southeastern Turkey and Northern Iraq. Their ideal is to consolidate all their traditional territory into a nation in it's own right.

One of the oddities of the Kurds is their very specific territoriality - they want every single inch of their traditional homeland, but not one inch more. There has been plenty of opportunity for the Kurdish Autonomous region of Iraq to expand south and west recently, but what they consider their border there remains the same as it always was, despite them fighting far south of it.

Nice people, mostly. Very can do sorts, and ALWAYS laughing and singing. I like them a lot.
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #85 on: December 26, 2016, 06:24:27 PM »
You are pretty much right. The Kurds are spread over a chunk of Northeastern Syria, Southeastern Turkey and Northern Iraq. Their ideal is to consolidate all their traditional territory into a nation in it's own right.

One of the oddities of the Kurds is their very specific territoriality - they want every single inch of their traditional homeland, but not one inch more. There has been plenty of opportunity for the Kurdish Autonomous region of Iraq to expand south and west recently, but what they consider their border there remains the same as it always was, despite them fighting far south of it.

Nice people, mostly. Very can do sorts, and ALWAYS laughing and singing. I like them a lot.

That was my impression, too.

They seem to have a lot of positives, as a culture, a tribal group.
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2016, 10:30:32 PM »
And they are in Iran too.

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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2016, 10:45:50 PM »
Demographically, they are suppose to outnumber Turks in the not to distant future; they could just try to be more patient.

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I thought Mount Ararat was in the Kurdish area. That's where Noah's Ark is purported to be.



Greater Kurdistan is a huge part of Turkey, maybe not so much of the other countries.



Maybe not on this map, barely missing but it extends up to Georgia and into Aizerbaijan too. Looks like wiki says they speak a language related to Iranian.
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #89 on: January 01, 2017, 12:26:08 AM »


Very sobering.

Thanks for that information.

May God be with our troops in that extremely hazardous area.

Sigh.
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #90 on: January 01, 2017, 12:26:51 AM »
Demographically, they are suppose to outnumber Turks in the not to distant future; they could just try to be more patient.

@Quix
I thought Mount Ararat was in the Kurdish area. That's where Noah's Ark is purported to be.



Greater Kurdistan is a huge part of Turkey, maybe not so much of the other countries.



Maybe not on this map, barely missing but it extends up to Georgia and into Aizerbaijan too. Looks like wiki says they speak a language related to Iranian.

I didn't realize there area was that big. I can see why the Turks would be more than a little  concerned and fierce about turf!
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #91 on: January 02, 2017, 11:05:19 PM »

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« Reply #92 on: January 02, 2017, 11:20:40 PM »
That's certainly an interesting development.

Will see how it pans out.

Federalism . . . I increasingly hate that word.


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This appears negative, Turkey is going along with this deal because it won't split Syria up, if Syria gets split up, the Kurds could have their own autonomous area (own country?), as it is, they may have an "autonomous zone" in the larger scheme.

Also, why maybe the US wasn't invited to the ceasefire talks. There is a book called "Orphans of History", you really have them in South East Asia but they are likely about everywhere, people without a real homeland nation of their own, kind of like the Karen, Hmong, etc.

I'm no expert, that's kind of the drift I get here, I guess the article still states there will be autonomous zones.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/02/briton-ryan-lock-killed-while-fighting-against-isis-in-syria

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,241897.0.html

That Brit said the Kurds he was fighting for did get bombed badly by the Turks.
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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #93 on: January 03, 2017, 01:00:04 PM »
Kurds are enemies of ISIS; not sure what this is about. These people may have been ill-informed but reading the story, there seems to be more variables. More to the story than just the headline.
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UK Kurds jailed for trying to join IS
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Two Kurds living in the UK are jailed for terror offences after trying to join so-called Islamic State fighters in Iraq.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-38501003

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Azeez, of Washington Road, Sheffield, was sent to the UK by his family to keep him safe after battling extremists with the Kurdish Peshmerga separatist group, Kingston Crown Court heard.

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The two were discovered by police sleeping at a Birmingham mosque on 17 May, days after several of Azeez's worried relatives had called 999 with concerns about what he was planning.

Sleeping in a British Mosque and planning to join ISIS. Wow.

Nutty story but how could any Kurd be planning to join IS?
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Re: The Kurdish News
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Iraq Military Chief Says PKK Stopped American Team From Saving Yezidi Village
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Posted 2017-01-07 19:14 GMT

Iraq's former army chief of staff Babakir Zebari says that a special American team tried to save thousands of Yezidi civilians from abduction and imminent massacre at a village near Shingal in the summer of 2014 but that they were stopped by members of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) present in the area at the time.

"When Daesh (ISIS) invaded the Shingal area I went to the Americans and told them to do something about Kocho village because there were four thousand people there," Iraq's then army chief of staff told Rudaw TV in an exclusive interview.

Zebari recalls the Americans telling him that they could force the ISIS militants to withdraw by bombing their positions which they failed to do because of PKK objection to their presence on Mount Shingal from where they planned to target ISIS.

"The Americans said if they bombed ISIS positions they will be forced to withdraw and for that they went to the top of Mount Shingal," Zebari said.

"But as the Americans got there and were heading to Kocho village the PKK came, planted their flag and threw rocks at them," Zebari, the veteran Kurdish army man in the Iraqi military said of the days the Americans responded to the ISIS invasion of Kurdish areas in August 2014.

More: http://aina.org/news/20170107141435.htm

Bad story if so and it's probably so; but there seems to be a hitch to what the "PKK" did; still trying to understand it. Horrible.

We all remember a few years ago, when they said the Peshmerga Kurds needed international aid and receded to the protection of a mountain top.

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Re: The Kurdish News
« Reply #95 on: January 08, 2017, 06:16:06 PM »
Bad story if so and it's probably so; but there seems to be a hitch to what the "PKK" did; still trying to understand it. Horrible.

We all remember a few years ago, when they said the Peshmerga Kurds needed international aid and receded to the protection of a mountain top.


PKK has Marxist roots which is probably why it is said to be well organized. We label it a terrorist group.

YPG is said to be aligned with PKK.

Peshmerga seems to be the the most decent of the lot. They were said to be factious and disorganized at the beginning of this horror show but apparently came together well enough.

After that it becomes complicated.

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Re: The Kurdish News
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Kurdish Filmmaker Cancels Planned U.S. Visit over Trump Actions
by Naharnet Newsdesk 3 days ago



Citing President Donald Trump's visa crackdown, Kurdish filmmaker Hussein Hassan has scrapped plans to attend the U.S. premiere of his critically acclaimed film on the Yazidi minority, it was announced Friday.

Jaie Laplante, director of the Miami Film Festival, where the Kurdish-Iraqi movie "The Dark Wind" is to be screened in March, said Hassan had decided to withdraw his visa application in protest at Trump's forthcoming executive orders that are set to suspend the U.S. refugee program and restrict visas to citizens of certain countries, including Iraq, Iran, and Syria.

"One of Miami Film Festival's core values is to bridge cultural understanding, to provoke thought and discussion, and 'The Dark Wind' is one of the most timely, moving and important films in this year's festival," Laplante said.

Continued: http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/224492-kurdish-filmmaker-cancels-planned-u-s-visit-over-trump-actions

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Re: The Kurdish News
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Kurd-led Syrian militia says Trump sent it armoured vehicles
#SyriaWar

Syrian Democratic Forces receive first shipment of armour from US, but Pentagon says supply order had been 'in the works for some time'


http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/kurd-led-syrian-militia-claims-trump-government-sent-armoured-vehicles-1743395167


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