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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/26/salesforce-ceo-says-company-is-cancelling-all-programs-in-indiana-over-lgbt-discrimination-fears/

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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) – Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff says he doesn’t want his employees subjected to discrimination as part of their work for the San Francisco-based company, and he is cancelling all required travel to the state of Indiana following the signing of a religious freedom law that some say allows business to exclude gay customers.

    Today we are canceling all programs that require our customers/employees to travel to Indiana to face discrimination. http://t.co/SvTwyCHxvE

    — Marc Benioff (@Benioff) March 26, 2015

On Thursday,  Indiana Gov. Mike Pence signed into law a religious objections bill that some business leaders have opposed amid concern it could allow discrimination against homosexuals.



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Salesforce Inc. is a global cloud computing company headquartered in San Francisco, California. Though best known for its customer relationship management (CRM) product, Salesforce has also expanded into commercial applications of social networking through acquisition. As of 2015, it is one of the largest American cloud computing companies with a market capitalization of $40 billion,[6] although the company has never turned a profit since its inception in 1999.

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SENATE ENROLLED ACT No. 101

AN ACT to amend the Indiana Code concerning civil procedure.

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Indiana:

SECTION1.IC34-13-9 IS ADDED TO THE INDIANA CODE AS A NEW CHAPTER TO READ AS FOLLOWS [EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 2015]:

Chapter 9. Religious Freedom Restoration

Sec. 1. This chapter applies to all governmental entity statutes, ordinances, resolutions, executive or administrative orders, regulations, customs, and usages, including the implementation or application thereof, regardless of whether they were enacted, adopted, or initiated before, on, or after July 1, 2015.

Sec. 2. A governmental entity statute, ordinance, resolution, executive or administrative order, regulation, custom, or usage may not be construed to be exempt from the application of this chapter unless a state statute expressly exempts the statute, ordinance, resolution, executive or administrative order, regulation, custom, or usage from the application of this chapter by citation to this chapter.

Sec. 3. (a) The following definitions apply throughout this section: (1) "Establishment Clause" refers to the part of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States or the Constitution of the State of Indiana prohibiting laws respecting the establishment of religion. (2) "Granting", used with respect to government funding, benefits, or exemptions, does not include the denial of government funding, benefits, or exemptions. (b) This chapter may not be construed to affect, interpret, or in any way address the Establishment Clause. (c) Granting government funding, benefits, or exemptions, to the extent permissible under the Establishment Clause, does not constitute a violation of this chapter.

Sec. 4. As used in this chapter, "demonstrates"means meets the burdens of going forward with the evidence and of persuasion.

Sec. 5. As used in this chapter, "exercise of religion" includes any exercise of religion,whether or not compelled by, or central to, a system of religious belief.

Sec. 6. As used in this chapter, "governmental entity" includes the whole or any part of a branch, department, agency, instrumentality, official, or other individual or entity acting under color of law of any of the following: (1) State government. (2) A political subdivision (as defined in IC 36-1-2-13). (3) An instrumentality of a governmental entity described in subdivision(1) or (2), including a state educational institution, a body politic, a body corporate and politic, or any other similar entity established by law.

Sec. 7. As used in this chapter, "person" includes the following: (1) An individual. (2) An organization, a religious society, a church, a body of communicants, or a group organized and operated primarily for religious purposes. (3) A partnership, a limited liability company, a corporation, a company, a firm, a society, a joint-stock company, an unincorporated association, or another entity that: (A) may sue and be sued; and (B) exercises practices that are compelled or limited by a system of religious belief held by: (i) an individual; or (ii) the individuals; who have control and substantial ownership of the entity, regardless of whether the entity is organized and operated for profit or nonprofit purposes.

Sec. 8. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), a governmental entity may not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion, even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability. (b) A governmental entity may substantially burden a person's exercise of religion only if the governmental entity demonstrates that application of the burden to the person: (1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and (2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.

Sec. 9. A person whose exercise of religion has been substantially burdened, or is likely to be substantially burdened, by a violation of this chapter may assert the violation or impending violation as a claim or defense in a judicial or administrative proceeding, regardless of whether the state or any other governmental entity is a party to the proceeding. If the relevant governmental entity is not a party to the proceeding, the governmental entity has an unconditional right to intervene in order to respond to the person's invocation of this chapter.

Sec. 10. (a) If a court or other tribunal in which a violation of this chapter is asserted in conformity with section 9 of this chapter determines that: (1) the person's exercise of religion has been substantially burdened, or is likely to be substantially burdened; and (2) the governmental entity imposing the burden has not demonstrated that application of the burden to the person: (A) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and (B) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest; the court or other tribunal shall allow a defense against any party and shall grant appropriate relief against the governmental entity. (b) Relief against the governmental entity may include any of the following: (1) Declaratory relief or an injunction or mandate that prevents, restrains, corrects, or abates the violation of this chapter. (2) Compensatory damages. (c) In the appropriate case,the court or other tribunal also may award all or part of the costs of litigation, including reasonable attorney's fees, to a person that prevails against the governmental entity under this chapter.

Sec. 11. This chapter is not intended to, and shall not be construed or interpreted to, create a claim or private cause of action against any private employer by any applicant, employee, or former employee.


http://iga.in.gov/static-documents/9/2/b/a/92bab197/SB0101.05.ENRS.pdf


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Is it a correct understanding of the Indiana law, that a business could say...

..."ewe, you look gay, and we don't have to serve gays here, so get out."
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Ryan Anderson of the Heritage Foundation writes at the Daily Signal:
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Indiana Protects Religious Liberty. Why That’s Good Policy.


In a victory for religious freedom, earlier today Gov. Mike Pence, R-Ind., signed into law the state’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act. This is good policy that protects the fundamental freedom of Indiana citizens from unnecessary and unreasonable government coercion.

The Indiana law is based on the 1993 federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act—a law that has served the American people well for more than 20 years. Passed with 97 votes in the Senate and by unanimous voice vote in the House, the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act was signed into law by then-President Bill Clinton. This federal law prohibits substantial government burdens on religious exercise unless the government can show a compelling interest in burdening religious liberty and does so through the least restrictive means.

No one has the right to have the government force a particular minister to marry them, or a certain photographer to capture the first kiss or a baker to bake the wedding cake.

These protections for religious freedom, like the one passed in Indiana, provide a commonsense way to balance the fundamental right to religious liberty with compelling government interests. The federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act protects against federal government violations of religious liberty, and state Religious Freedom Restoration Acts protect against state violations.

By passing its Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Indiana joins the 19 other states that have implemented such laws. Eleven additional states have religious liberty protections that state courts have interpreted to provide a similar level of protection. These commonsense laws place the onus on the government to justify its actions in burdening the free exercise of religion ...
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Is it a correct understanding of the Indiana law, that a business could say...

..."ewe, you look gay, and we don't have to serve gays here, so get out."
And what's wrong with that?

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist in the United States." (13th Amendment, abridged)

"Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion." (1st Amendment, abridged)

This should not require such a law, given that sexual immorality is prohibited by most religions that have been in existence for millennia now.
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NCAA Worried Gay Players Won’t Be Able to Buy Wedding Cakes from Christian Bakeries in Indiana

Posted By Daniel Greenfield On March 27, 2015 @ 8:05 am In The Point | No Comments




How can they possibly play without the assurance that they can violate the religious freedom of Christian bakers and florists in Indiana?


With the Final Four a week away from shining a spotlight on Indianapolis, NCAA President Mark Emmert said Thursday that the governing body for college sports is concerned about an Indiana law that could allow businesses to discriminate against gay people.

The law would prohibit state and local laws that “substantially burden” the ability of people — including businesses and associations — to follow their religious beliefs.

The NCAA offices are located in Indianapolis, and Emmert said the organization was concerned about how it might impact student athletes and employees. His terse statement also suggested the NCAA might consider moving future events out of Indianapolis.

“We will work diligently to assure student-athletes competing in, and visitors attending, next week’s Men’s Final Four in Indianapolis are not impacted negatively by this bill,” Emmert said, hours after Gov. Mark Pence signed the measure into law. “Moving forward, we intend to closely examine the implications of this bill and how it might affect future events as well as our workforce.”

Maybe Christians ought to do likewise when it comes to putting money in their pockets.


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They can go elsewhere???
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A huge gamer convention that threatened to withdraw from Indiana over its 'anti-gay' bill has backed down

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... Gen Con, a huge gamers convention hosted in Indianapolis for more than a decade, said it would consider moving to another city if the bill became law. But citing hundreds of messages from the business community, it backtracked after the law was signed and said it would stay put through 2020, the length of its contract with the city ...
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I have no problems with the Indiana law.
I have no problems if it is used to explicitly deny service to gays.

If the gays don't like it, and threaten to boycott Indiana or otherwise avoid the place, so be it.
I'm completely comfortable with that.

Let them do as they wish in San Francisco, New York, and elsewhere.
I am free not to go to those places -- and I don't.

Stay out of Indiana?
Fine with me!

I'll be happy to stay where I am, so long as you stay where YOU are!

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Indiana's Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Explained

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On Thursday, Indiana governor Mike Pence signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) into law, and some celebrities, politicians, and journalists--including Miley Cyrus, Ashton Kutcher, and Hillary Clinton, just to name a few--are absolutely outraged. They say the law is a license to discriminate against gay people: ...

Meanwhile, activists are calling for a boycott. The CEO of SalesForce, a company that does business in China, is pulling out of Indiana. The NCAA has expressed concern about holding events there in the future. And the city of San Francisco is banning taxpayer-funded travel to the state.

Is the Religious Freedom Restoration Act really a license to discriminate against gay people?

No. Stanford law professor Michael McConnell, a former appellate court judge, tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD in an email: "In the decades that states have had RFRA statutes, no business has been given the right to discriminate against gay customers, or anyone else."
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Misleading headline. Watch the video. It runs 11:37.

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence Says Controversial 'Religious Freedom' Law Won't Change
Stephanie Ebbs, Mike Pence, George Stephanopoulos
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Indiana's controversial Religious Freedom Restoration Act will not be changing despite critics saying it allows business owners to discriminate against members of the LGBT community, state Gov. Mike Pence said today during an exclusive interview on ABC's "This Week."
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Stephanopoulos: (paraphrasing) Can a florist in Indiana now refuse to serve a gay couple without fear of punishment?

Pence: Hem-haw.

A suggested correct answer: Yes. Those are luxury services, not essential services like food, lodging, medical care. etc. They cannot be criminally prosecuted. They can, however, be taken to civil court.

Stephanopoulos: Do you think it should be legal in the state of Indiana to discriminate against gays and lesbians?

Pence: Hem-haw.

A suggested correct answer: No. Of course not.

It's no wonder that we're called the Stupid Party.  **nononono*

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Misleading headline. Watch the video. It runs 11:37.

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence Says Controversial 'Religious Freedom' Law Won't Change
Stephanie Ebbs, Mike Pence, George Stephanopoulos
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Stephanopoulos: (paraphrasing) Can a florist in Indiana now refuse to serve a gay couple without fear of punishment?

Pence: Hem-haw.

A suggested correct answer: Yes. Those are luxury services, not essential services like food, lodging, medical care. etc. They cannot be criminally prosecuted. They can, however, be taken to civil court.

Stephanopoulos: Do you think it should be legal in the state of Indiana to discriminate against gays and lesbians?

Pence: Hem-haw.

A suggested correct answer: No. Of course not.

It's no wonder that we're called the Stupid Party.  **nononono*


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Misleading headline. Watch the video. It runs 11:37.

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence Says Controversial 'Religious Freedom' Law Won't Change
Stephanie Ebbs, Mike Pence, George Stephanopoulos
ABC News
March 29, 2015
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Stephanopoulos: (paraphrasing) Can a florist in Indiana now refuse to serve a gay couple without fear of punishment?

Pence: Hem-haw.

A suggested correct answer: Yes. Those are luxury services, not essential services like food, lodging, medical care. etc. They cannot be criminally prosecuted. They can, however, be taken to civil court.

I misspoke. From the law:

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Sec. 8. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), a governmental entity may not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion, even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability. (b) A governmental entity may substantially burden a person's exercise of religion only if the governmental entity demonstrates that application of the burden to the person: (1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and (2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.


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Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff says he doesn’t want his employees subjected to discrimination as part of their work for the San Francisco-based company, and he is cancelling all required travel to the state of Indiana following the signing of a religious freedom law that some say allows business to exclude gay customers.

Blackmail?  Extortion?  Bullying??

The left is engaging in bullying the nation into submitting to THEIR religion and abandoning our own.

Stand strong, Indiana!
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The left is engaging in bullying the nation into submitting to THEIR religion and abandoning our own.

Yep....The regime will also take Israel off the friendly nation list soon. Meanwhile here at home one of the main targets is religion.


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Salesforce Inc. is a global cloud computing company headquartered in San Francisco, California.

Oh... I get it...

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Yep....The regime will also take Israel off the friendly nation list soon. Meanwhile here at home one of the main targets is religion.

No coincidence, I'm afraid.....   **nononono*
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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musiclady wrote above:
[[ The left is engaging in bullying the nation into submitting to THEIR religion and abandoning our own.
Stand strong, Indiana! ]]

I wish they would too, musiclady.

But... they won't.
They'll cave.**
Pence is backtrackin' already.
And this guy was being considered as a candidate for president?
Forgeddaboutit!

On the other hand, Arkansas and the governor there seem to be exhibiting more intestinal fortitude on the matter.

Hold the line, Razorbacks!

** Aside: in another thread there has been the discussion of the use of the phrase "Republican in name only". Here is a perfect example!

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Here we go again, allowing a social issue to keep the LIV and MSM entertained, shall we say? 

This is why the Republican brand...one of fat old white men whose days have passed...is having a tough time being accepted by the current social structure.

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