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Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« on: January 27, 2015, 01:36:54 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/230798-senate-gop-plots-plan-b-for-obamacare

By Alexander Bolton - 01/27/15 06:00 AM EST
Senate Republicans are preparing a legislative plan of action in case the Supreme Court strikes a major blow against ObamaCare and rules subsidies provided to people on the federal exchange are illegal.

GOP senators are confident the justices will rule in their favor, and they want to be ready to act if millions of people lose their subsidies to buy insurance through the healthcare law.

“If the Supreme Court were to say the law says what the law says, we would like to be ready with a response to that that makes practical sense for the 5 or 6 million Americans who would be affected,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), who is heading the effort along with Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Republican Policy Committee Chairman John Barrasso (R-Wyo.).
Senate Budget Committee Chairman Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) and Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) are also participating.

The legislative plan could also be a plan B for repealing the entire law, which looks unlikely as long as President Obama is in the White House.

“It just makes no sense not to have a viable alternative there as a plan B,” said Sen. Dan Coats (R-Ind.).

He said plan A is to vote to repeal the law but acknowledged “it’s hard to see it succeeding.”

The Supreme Court announced in November that it would hear arguments for the case King v. Burwell, in which plaintiffs contend the text of the 2010 Affordable Care Act does not allow the federal government to give subsidies for people to buy insurance in states that have not set up their own exchanges.

“The courts are likely to decide against ObamaCare. The language is totally unambiguous. I don’t see how they can ignore the unambiguous language that is clear-cut,” said Hatch.

He said Republicans must be ready to put forth their own ideas for dealing with people who are stripped of subsidies once the court rules.

“It does mean that we’ll have to resolve the problems that result from that. I don’t think there’s going to be a simple one-page amendment to resolve it,” he said.

“I’m going to attend the beginning meetings to see if there’s a way forward,” said Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.). “If in June the Supreme Court were to rule the way most of us think they will or could or should, obviously we need to be prepared and we need to be talking about what we believe those solutions to be in advance.”

While Alexander said the group will be open to other Republican senators, some are still waiting for an invitation.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said he would like to participate but added “they have to let me in.”

The Supreme Court is expected to hear oral arguments in March and issue a ruling in June. The decision could bar federal subsidies in the 34 states that did not create their own insurance exchanges.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit ruled in July that the federal government could provide subsidies in states without their own exchanges, while a three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled for the challengers. The full D.C. Circuit, however, decided to rehear the case.

A spokeswoman for Barrasso said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) asked her boss to form the healthcare working group with Alexander — chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee — and other senators.

“They are considering a variety of healthcare ideas that will lower costs and improve care for Americans,” said Emily Schillinger, Barrasso’s aide.

Alexander said the guiding principle is to let people keep their health insurance plans if they like them, but it may not be an easy task if the federal government is barred from providing subsidies in some states.

He said if people decide to keep the plan they have, they would have to pay for it.

“If they couldn’t afford it, then they could go to a different, less expensive policy that they could afford,” he said.

The specifics need to be hammered out.

“We don’t have a proposal yet. We have a goal to repair the damage of ObamaCare,” he said. “We’re a few weeks away from that.”

One possible option is the Care Act, unveiled by Hatch, Burr and then-Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) a year ago.

The bill’s sponsors say it would create new protection for Americans with pre-existing conditions, help small businesses and individuals with purchasing power, limit medical malpractice lawsuits, cap the tax exclusion for employer-provided health coverage and make other reforms.

Under their proposal, a continuous coverage provision would protect individuals with pre-existing condition. People could not be denied coverage because of a health problem as long as they remain continuously enrolled in a health plan without a significant break in coverage, according to a summary provided by the sponsors.

Democrats panned the proposal at the time.

Jeremy Funk, spokesman for Americans United for Change, an advocacy group allied with Democrats, said the continuous coverage proposal was taken from Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign and would leave tens of millions of people without insurance.

“Making it legal again for big insurance to discriminate against and deny coverage to 89 million Americans with pre-existing conditions is not an alternative, it’s a joke,” Funk said after the proposal’s introduction.

A group of centrist Democrats including Sens. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Mark Warner (Va.) and Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) last year introduced ObamaCare reforms.

One proposal was to provide a new high-deductible health insurance option known as the Copper Plan that would cost less while still meeting the standards of the Affordable Care Act.

Another idea was to give small businesses more time to take advantage of healthcare tax credits and expand them to businesses with fewer than 50 employees instead of limiting these benefits to business with fewer than 25 employees.
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Re: Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 01:47:52 pm »
Why doesn't the federal government just get the hell out of the health care business and let the states sort it out?  Oh, that's right.  Too many pigs eating at the trough to do that.  And now that the SCOTUS is about to take away subsidies from people in states that opted out of Obamacrap, what are the senate Republicans doing?  Plotting how to buy those votes for themselves.  And so it goes.

Stop it.  Repeal.  Period.
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Re: Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 02:12:39 pm »
"Many a slip, twixt the cup and the lip."
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2015, 03:15:14 am »
[[ Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare ]]

Comin' up next:
Plan C
Plan D
Plan E
Plan F
Plan G
Plan H
Plan I
Plan J...

They be good plotters, dem senators!

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Re: Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 03:26:11 am »
Why doesn't the federal government just get the hell out of the health care business and let the states sort it out?  Oh, that's right.  Too many pigs eating at the trough to do that.  And now that the SCOTUS is about to take away subsidies from people in states that opted out of Obamacrap, what are the senate Republicans doing?  Plotting how to buy those votes for themselves.  And so it goes.

Stop it.  Repeal.  Period.

They had rather play politics with it than do what they PROMISED to do!
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Re: Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 05:09:50 pm »
They had rather play politics with it than do what they PROMISED to do!
Exactly, years ago i was told that they never want to get rid of anything, that way they can use it for a talking point for re-election.


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Re: Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 05:31:21 pm »
 
The way those premium tax credits work, it is to people's advantage to significantly understate their incomes and get the largest tax credit possible when applying on the Marketplace.  As long as your actual income is less than 400% of the federal poverty level, there are limits on how much of the excess premium tax credit that you have to pay back.

Can be worth hundreds of dollars in subsidies you don't have to pay back come tax-time.

All totally legal and with no penalties for doing it.

It's the law...




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Re: Senate GOP plots plan B for ObamaCare
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2015, 05:55:33 pm »
“We don’t have a proposal yet. We have a goal to repair the damage of ObamaCare,” he said. “We’re a few weeks away from that.”

That seems like the universal quote for everything, all of the time. But vote for us, nonetheless.

What have they been doing for the last "few weeks?" Recess, vacations, fundraising?
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