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Revealed: U.S. Cut Off Arms Supply to Israel During Gaza War
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Revealed: U.S. Cut Off Arms Supply to Israel During Gaza War

Posted By P. David Hornik On October 22, 2014 @ 12:50 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 10 Comments


Last August 14 the Wall Street Journal reported that, in July, after Israel had launched Operation Protective Edge in Gaza, Washington had surprised Israel by turning down an Israeli request for “a large number of Hellfire missiles.” Hellfires are an important air-to-surface precision weapon, suited to the kind of warfare Israel was waging against Hamas and other terror groups in Gaza.

But as Amir Rapaport, a veteran Israeli military-affairs writer and editor of the Israel Defense site, now reports:


The full truth…is much more severe: apparently, during Operation Protective Edge, the USA had completely stopped all connections with Israel’s defense procurement delegation based in the USA. For days, no item whatsoever could be shipped. The expected airlift of US ammunition had never even arrived at its point of departure.

The crisis began about ten days into Operation Protective Edge, pursuant to allegations that the percentage of uninvolved civilian deaths in the Gaza Strip was extremely high (IDF admitted that about one half of all Palestinian deaths were probably civilians who had not been involved in the fighting).

At that stage, the Israeli defense establishment submitted to the USA a request for various types of munitions, including Hellfire missiles, to replenish the dwindling inventories of IDF….

The order to stop the processing of all Israeli requests came from a senior echelon—probably the White House, among other reasons, because Israel had ignored the initiatives of Secretary of State John Kerry and preferred to end the operation through a direct channel with the Egyptians. The State Department had been annoyed with Israel for several months, since it was revealed that Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon had referred to Kerry as “Messianic” in closed sessions.

No less than three reasons are given here for Washington’s ire toward Israel. Regarding the first—the allegedly high Palestinian civilian casualties—an ongoing study by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Information Center has found, so far, that the death rate was indeed about 50%-50% between Palestinian combatants and civilians. This compares favorably with ratios of three civilians killed for every one combatant in Afghanistan, and four civilians for every one combatant in Iraq and in Kosovo.

As for Israel’s “ignor[ing]” of Kerry’s “initiatives,” those initiatives entailed negotiating a ceasefire with Hamas through the good offices of Turkey and Qatar—a move that was staunchly opposed by both Israel and Egypt because Turkey and Qatar are patently pro-Hamas actors.

And as for Yaalon dubbing Kerry “messianic,” he did so in the context of Kerry’s attempted Israeli-Palestinian peace process in which U.S. political and military officials had usurped Yaalon’s authority as Israeli defense minister by intensively planning an Israeli military retreat from the Jordan Valley—a step that Yaalon views as incompatible with Israel’s security.

In any case, Rapaport calls the munitions cutoff a “major trauma in US-Israeli relations” that has already had repercussions. Among other impacts, he reports that


within the Israeli defense establishment, this recent affair has led to a reassessment of the almost automatic reliance on an airlift of ammunition from the USA as a part of practically every wartime scenario.

Among the measures currently under consideration is…a massive transition to Israeli-made munitions. For example, the Hellfire missiles the Americans failed to deliver may be replaced by IAI [Israel Aerospace Industries] missiles, while precision guided munitions by Rafael may replace US-made air-to-surface munitions. Since Operation Protective Edge, Israeli defense industries have already received urgent procurement orders for arms and munitions worth billions of NIS.

Rapaport notes, however, that


the arms issue was resolved toward the end of Operation Protective Edge and…despite the recent events, the strategic defense relations between the two countries continue even now, including extensive intelligence cooperation. US DOD [Department of Defense] and IMOD [Israel Ministry of Defense] are also proceeding with numerous joint research and development projects and US defense aid will remain a substantial element of the Israeli defense budget, which enables Israel to acquire such extremely costly systems as the F-35 future fighter aircraft. The Americans have also increased their support for the Iron Dome project during Operation Protective Edge….

All in all, this episode may signal a major learning experience for Israel and a step toward its maturation as a country: the realization that, while the United States is a friend and ally, it is not a Big Brother to be relied on to the extent that one puts one’s fate in its hands.

By Rapaport’s account and others, the deeply institutionalized U.S.-Israeli strategic relationship is surviving and even thriving in the Obama era. But that does not mean an ideologically hostile administration like Obama’s will not exploit Israel’s dependence to punish it for perceived wrongs, even—or especially—at a time when Israel is under attack as it was from thousands of Hamas rockets last summer.

Since there may well be other such ideologically hostile or Israel-unfriendly administrations in the future, it is good to know that Israel is reassessing its “almost automatic reliance” on U.S. airlifts and considering a “massive transition to Israeli-made munitions.” It would be a lot more realistic.

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Re: Revealed: U.S. Cut Off Arms Supply to Israel During Gaza War
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 02:11:23 am »
I don't think there's any doubt left as to which side the "government of the United States" now supports...

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Re: Revealed: U.S. Cut Off Arms Supply to Israel During Gaza War
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 04:39:53 pm »
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Since there may well be other such ideologically hostile or Israel-unfriendly administrations in the future, it is good to know that Israel is reassessing its “almost automatic reliance” on U.S. airlifts and considering a “massive transition to Israeli-made munitions.” It would be a lot more realistic.

That's smart.  The Israelis are a little late in coming to that conclusion (just about half of the US population could have warned them that Democrats are anti-Israel), but I'm glad to see they've come to that conclusion.  No country should be reliant on another to keep them in munitions.  We could use a sprinkling of that wisdom over here.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 04:58:23 pm »
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That's smart.  The Israelis are a little late in coming to that conclusion (just about half of the US population could have warned them that Democrats are anti-Israel), but I'm glad to see they've come to that conclusion.  No country should be reliant on another to keep them in munitions.  We could use a sprinkling of that wisdom over here.

You would think they had already learned that lesson from the French, back when Mirage parts were embargoed.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 06:10:59 pm »
You would think they had already learned that lesson from the French, back when Mirage parts were embargoed.

One would think.  I guess one could say they are ever the optimists...OTOH, from what I can glean from Google, Israel has pretty much replaced the Mirages with their own planes.  Maybe they did learn.

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Re: Revealed: U.S. Cut Off Arms Supply to Israel During Gaza War
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2014, 09:14:45 pm »
I'll bet Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood had wet dreams when they found out.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 09:28:40 pm »
There is more to Obama's open antipathy toward Israel (and Jews in general) than just that. While he is bringing 10s of thousands of immigrants from all over the world in by boatloads and airlifts, he is restricting Israeli visa applications.
 
Israelies play by the rules and get visas, instead of simply crossing the boarder like everyone else. Obama is taking advantage of this by punishing them for following the rules.
 
Obama's feelings for Israel could not be more clear. It is bordering on open hostility.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2014, 12:30:10 am »
One would think.  I guess one could say they are ever the optimists...OTOH, from what I can glean from Google, Israel has pretty much replaced the Mirages with their own planes.  Maybe they did learn.

(They have whacked-out pacifist moonbat politicians just like we do.)

Sadly true about their politicians - I think it's a disease of some sort that affects them all in the end!

For the aircraft, I may recommend "Mirage" by James Follet. It's a semi fictional account of how the IAI got the complete plans to build their own Mirages - it's a good read and the high points are true (dialogue not so much). Now-a-days they produce some of the finest combat and support aircraft in the world, and their avionics are second to none. The Israelis are, in general, an incredibly creative nation.

I can sort of understand the limited munitions production, especially of missiles. It's a small country with a small population, and a nice big factory churning out highly explosive products would be a magnet for every rocket, terrorist, or suicidal idiot in 5 countries. If you have a reliable supplier, it makes sense in the short term to use them and minimise the risk of the equivalent of a small nuke going off, removing your production capacity and a huge swathe of skilled workers in one hit. The UK has similar considerations which reduce our native production - and we are not surrounded by people who want to wipe us off the map!

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2014, 12:34:52 am »
There is more to Obama's open antipathy toward Israel (and Jews in general) than just that. While he is bringing 10s of thousands of immigrants from all over the world in by boatloads and airlifts, he is restricting Israeli visa applications.
 
Israelies play by the rules and get visas, instead of simply crossing the boarder like everyone else. Obama is taking advantage of this by punishing them for following the rules.
 
Obama's feelings for Israel could not be more clear. It is bordering on open hostility.

How bad is it seen as from Israel? Know my family there, and quite a few of my friends, are somewhere between pissed off and incandescent with rage about the (in)actions of the US recently, but that is only a tiny slice of opinion, highly biased as most of them are IDF.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2014, 12:48:49 am »
The key word is reliable. The only thing the Worm's administration can be relied on for is to make any situation worse.

It's pretty much that way for any Democrat regime.  As far as Israel is concerned, every four years it's a big crapshoot as to whether or not they have a decent ally, or a collaborator with the enemy.  That's pretty harsh when you think about it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2014, 12:56:01 am »
It's pretty much that way for any Democrat regime.  As far as Israel is concerned, every four years it's a big crapshoot as to whether or not they have a decent ally, or a collaborator with the enemy.  That's pretty harsh when you think about it.

How true. Jimmah Cattah was and still is very much pro-Muslim. As is Hillary Clinton. There are many pictures of Hillary hugging Arafat.
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