ENTIRE LEADERSHIP OF ISIS OPPOSITION WIPED OUT BY 'UNEXPLAINED' EXPLOSION

[mystery-ak]

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/11/ISIS-Opposition-Killed-Bomb

by OLIVER LANE  11 Sep 2014, 3:55 AM PDT 50 POST A COMMENT



Nearly fifty senior commanders of a major coalition of Islamic 'moderates' opposed to ISIS in Syria have been killed by an explosion at their secret command bunker as they met to discuss strategy against the the Islamic State.

The blast in the Northwest region of Idlib, Syria on Tuesday killed senior members of rebel group the Ahrar-al-Sham brigade (AaS), including leader Hassan Abboud and 45 others including senior members from other rebel alliance groups, reports The Times. The Idlib region stands in AaS territory, but it is close to the front-line with ISIS in neighbouring Aleppo.

Sources dispute the source of the blast, with it being unclear whether it was an opposition group, suicide bomber, or accidental explosion at a nearby ammunition dump. Regardless, the incident will destabilise and possibly tear apart the AaS group and associated Islamic Front Coalition which was recently described as "the most powerful armed group in Syria".

Islamic group Ahrar-al-Sham, whose name translates as 'The Free Men of Syria', is one of many movements competing in the inter-rebel conflict in Syria. A number of rebel groups are presently fighting each other as well as besieged Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, whose power base is in West and South-West, for overall control of the Region.

As the main rival to ISIS for control of Syria, the AaS blast if not orchestrated by the Islamic State will certainly be greatly beneficial to them. The 'decapitation' strategy, targeting Ahrar-al-Sham’s political, military and spiritual leadership is reminiscent of the United States’ targeted strikes against the leadership of Al-Qaeda.

The death of Abboud and his followers in Idlib highlights the difficulty of Western involvement in the conflict, where enemies of the apparent first enemy ISIS also make fairly poor potential allies. Many members of AaS have come from groups like Al-Qaeda and would in any other context be considered hard line Islamists.

The Ahrar-al-Sham brigade has also been extremely critical of Western involvement in the conflict. In an interview before his death leader Abboud rejected the Geneva peace conference saying: "We see Geneva as a tool of manipulation; to derail the Syrian revolution away from its goals and objectives .... Whatever outcome the conference may yield, will be binding on the Syrian National Coalition only. For us, we will continue to fight for our revolution until we restore our rights”.

Ahrar-al-Sham has appointed a new leader, Hashim al-Sheikh, who will attempt to hold together the fragile coalition which has lost most of its senior thinkers and strategists. al-Sheik said the attack "will only make us more resilient to fight and continue the fight until we liberate our homeland" on Wednesday.

[alicewonders]

How long until the middle east appears as a big bloody red splotch from space? 

[DCPatriot]

I told you....I told you...I told you....

It's Libya redux.

The only armed drones flying in that region are the property of either Israel or the United States.  And Bibi made no threats to ISIS opposition.

It can be laid squarely at Baracus Whose Anus Obama.

And we all know that our eavesdropping technology knew exactly where this was taking place.

 

[alicewonders]

I told you....I told you...I told you....

It's Libya redux.

The only armed drones flying in that region are the property of either Israel or the United States.  And Bibi made no threats to ISIS opposition.

It can be laid squarely at Baracus Whose Anus Obama.

And we all know that our eavesdropping technology knew exactly where this was taking place.

 

I think you're right DC.   

[mountaineer]

[massadvj]

I told you....I told you...I told you....

It's Libya redux.

The only armed drones flying in that region are the property of either Israel or the United States.  And Bibi made no threats to ISIS opposition.

It can be laid squarely at Baracus Whose Anus Obama.

And we all know that our eavesdropping technology knew exactly where this was taking place.

 

I'd be interested in your conjecture as to what OPapaDoc's motive might be. 

[DCPatriot]

I'd be interested in your conjecture as to what OPapaDoc's motive might be.

I believe his end game is to remove every existing dictator and monarchy presently in power in the Middle East in order to destabilize their respective countries.

He did it in Libya...he tried it in Egypt...he did it in Iraq...and he's at it in Syria for a couple of years now.  And he thinks he's rounding the home stretch there.  I believe he wants to be instrumental in creating an Islamic Republic and wiping out existing borders.  He's an avid Muslim.  He's a militant Muslim. 

"Community Organizer" is just another term for community anarchist.  He thrives on destruction of the status quo.

I think he actually believes in the 12th Iman  http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/chaos-in-iraq-syria-setting-stage-for-the-twelfth-imam-says-ayatollah-but-more-must-be-done-iranian-leader-reveals-thoughts-on-shia-eschatology/

[Right_in_Virginia]

I told you....I told you...I told you....

It's Libya redux.

The only armed drones flying in that region are the property of either Israel or the United States.  And Bibi made no threats to ISIS opposition.

Have we made threats against ISIS opposition?

[DCPatriot]

Have we made threats against ISIS opposition?

Of course not....I was just trying to show that to Netanyahu......"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" concept.   

He has no reason to take out the leadership of an organization that suddenly found the courage to face these savages who want Israel destroy and their people liquidated.  If anything, he'd be supplying them weapons and intelligence.

There was no international media allowed in Libya when he was "softening targets" of the Gaddafi regime.  He wasn't bombing only infrastructure...he was targeting Gaddafi's military and equipment.  He promised us it would only take a couple of weeks and he'd be gone...thus the decision not to seek Congressional approval for the campaign.  It took him MONTHS.

And he got away with it.   al-Sisi, who was in charge of the Egyptian military caught it early on and outlawed the Muslim Brotherhood...Obama's close friend and ally.  So, Obama failed there.

But just like in Libya, he thought that by killing off the ISIS  opposition that was formed, it would provide an example of what happens to those who are willing to fight for their existing country and borders.  Today, Libya is run by Islamic militias...total anarchy.  That's Obama's "kitchen".

[Right_in_Virginia]

Of course not....I was just trying to show that to Netanyahu......"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" concept.   

He has no reason to take out the leadership of an organization that suddenly found the courage to face these savages who want Israel destroy and their people liquidated.  If anything, he'd be supplying them weapons and intelligence.

Yes, I got that.  But you also said that only Israel and the US have armed drones in the area.  So if not Israel, are you saying we took out the ISIS opposition?

[DCPatriot]

Yes, I got that.  But you also said that only Israel and the US have armed drones in the area.  So if not Israel, are you saying we took out the ISIS opposition?

Uh......HELL YEAH!   

From freaking 15,000 feet. 

[massadvj]

I believe his end game is to remove every existing dictator and monarchy presently in power in the Middle East in order to destabilize their respective countries.

He did it in Libya...he tried it in Egypt...he did it in Iraq...and he's at it in Syria for a couple of years now.  And he thinks he's rounding the home stretch there.  I believe he wants to be instrumental in creating an Islamic Republic and wiping out existing borders.  He's an avid Muslim.  He's a militant Muslim. 

"Community Organizer" is just another term for community anarchist.  He thrives on destruction of the status quo.

I think he actually believes in the 12th Iman  http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/chaos-in-iraq-syria-setting-stage-for-the-twelfth-imam-says-ayatollah-but-more-must-be-done-iranian-leader-reveals-thoughts-on-shia-eschatology/

It's all too confusing to me.  I don't know who the hell we are fighting for over there.l

[alicewonders]

It's all too confusing to me.  I don't know who the hell we are fighting for over there.l

Me neither, it's become too complicated to tell.  That's a situation that's just ripe for disaster and the funneling of HUGE amounts of money and arms to our enemies!

[ABX]

I believe his end game is to remove every existing dictator and monarchy presently in power in the Middle East in order to destabilize their respective countries.

He did it in Libya...he tried it in Egypt...he did it in Iraq...and he's at it in Syria for a couple of years now.  And he thinks he's rounding the home stretch there.  I believe he wants to be instrumental in creating an Islamic Republic and wiping out existing borders.  He's an avid Muslim.  He's a militant Muslim. 

"Community Organizer" is just another term for community anarchist.  He thrives on destruction of the status quo.

I think he actually believes in the 12th Iman  http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/chaos-in-iraq-syria-setting-stage-for-the-twelfth-imam-says-ayatollah-but-more-must-be-done-iranian-leader-reveals-thoughts-on-shia-eschatology/

I believe you are right. It is going back to the Arab Baath Socialist Party that tried to create a single Islamic state in the 50s-60s and is the root of ISIS. They were over-thrown in Syria and moved it Iraq to become Saddam's predecessors there. They are taking out all leadership to create a vacuum to try to reorganize the unified Islamic state.

[Atomic Cow]

The only armed drones flying in that region are the property of either Israel or the United States.  And Bibi made no threats to ISIS opposition.

Not likely a drone.  They don't carry the needed ordnance to take out a bunker.  They're used for precision strikes with Hellfire missiles.

This was likely an ISIS suicide bomber who infiltrated the group.

[DCPatriot]

Not likely a drone.  They don't carry the needed ordnance to take out a bunker.  They're used for precision strikes with Hellfire missiles.

This was likely an ISIS suicide bomber who infiltrated the group.

I'll respect the possibility that it wasn't a drone, AC.   But remember, the technology the government has is years...if not decades ahead of what the public is shown.

It could have been somebody on 'our' team that found out where they were meeting.  All you need is somebody on the ground to lock the target with a laser and a ballistic missile could have been the explosive used.

I recall that using a 'pointer' in Benghazi ended up showing the attackers where he was positioned.

What time of day was the attack?   Lasers are virtually invisible in daytime, aren't they?

[Atomic Cow]

It could have been somebody on 'our' team that found out where they were meeting.  All you need is somebody on the ground to lock the target with a laser and a ballistic missile could have been the explosive used.

No one is going to fire a ballistic missile in a combat situation except in a nuclear exchange.  Even test launches are announced well ahead of time so everyone (especially Russia and China) know when and where one will be launching from.  An unannounced ICBM/SLBM launch is just asking for total disaster.  This is why the proposed conventional armed Trident II SLBM was scrapped.

[DCPatriot]

No one is going to fire a ballistic missile in a combat situation except in a nuclear exchange.  Even test launches are announced well ahead of time so everyone (especially Russia and China) know when and where one will be launching from.  An unannounced ICBM/SLBM launch is just asking for total disaster.  This is why the proposed conventional armed Trident II SLBM was scrapped.

I obviously misspoke when I used the word 'ballistic'.  You're obviously more versed on the subject than I am.  LOL!

Let's just use the word by itself. (missile).

[Fishrrman]

It's all too confusing to me.  I don't know who the hell we are fighting for over there...

Well, those in the American military are indeed fighting against [who they know to be] "terrorists", with the belief that what they do will help to end the scourge of terrorism.

But that isn't what their "commander-in-chief" (and the lady that counsels him) is "fighting for".
His objectives are outlined pretty well by DC Patriot in post #6 above.

Remember how folks used to giggle and wail if someone came out and suggested that B.H.O. might be the "anti-Christ" of Biblical prophecy?

In view of the way things are goin' in the Mideast, I wonder if they would still laugh as loudly...

[flowers]

Very disturbing. We all know valjarobie is just dying to kill off Assad. Now he has the way do to so doesn't he? Act like it is isis his pals and get Assad. Yet Russia is on Assads side so it may take a bit longer.

[massadvj]

But that isn't what their "commander-in-chief" (and the lady that counsels him) is "fighting for".
His objectives are outlined pretty well by DC Patriot in post #6 above.

How can you give an army the authority to go to war without also giving the CinC the same authority?  Do we trust this CinC to execute war in the way we would want it to be executed?  Who is our enemy?  Who will be assisted if we kill this enemy?  When will we know we have "won?"  If we couldn't beat Al Qaeda in Iraq without a massive surge of troops on the ground and the assistance of a well-trained Iraqi army that is much better-prepared than the current ragtag bunch, what on earth makes us think we can destroy ISIS now with air power alone?  Isn't it the nature of war that if one is going to disrupt a hornet's nest, it would be better to demolish it than to just agitate it?

It seems to me most conservatives have not answered these questions sufficiently.