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A Foreign Legion for Losers By Jonah Goldberg
« on: September 05, 2014, 12:42:18 pm »
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/387188/print

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A Foreign Legion for Losers
Many of the Westerners flocking to the Islamic State are middle-class misfits for whom jihad is a radical pose.
By Jonah Goldberg

On the Internet, you’re never really alone. Name any fad, any cause, any hobby or passion — Shaker furniture? Dungeons and Dragons, Bolivian tree frogs? — and you’re only a few clicks away from someone who shares your obsession.

That’s great. It’s also horrible. Because while there’s no harm in tree-frog fans sharing pictures and stories that inspire others to fly to the Andes to take pictures of exotic creatures, the Internet also lets evil people share stories and pictures that inspire others to cut off the heads of various infidels and apostates.

Though I’m perfectly comfortable with YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and similar platforms doing what they can to undermine the PR campaigns of fanatical murderers, my point here isn’t necessarily that such things should be banned or censored (even if that were technologically feasible). I weary of reflexive responses to barbarism that involve curtailing the freedoms of Americans in order to avoid offending savages.

Rather, my point is that to a considerable extent, the Islamic State — and groups like it — is a modern Foreign Legion for losers. When discussing people who openly boast of rape, murder, and torture, “loser” is hardly too harsh. But invective is not my intent when I call them losers. These men — and a few women, too — are losers in a more significant sense. They are losers at Western civilization.

Recently the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) posted transcripts from Facebook and Twitter conversations among various French and British supporters of the Islamic State. They enthusiastically chatted about the exciting news that you can buy slave women in areas controlled by the Islamic State. The terrorist group reportedly captured an unknown number of women from the ethnic minority called Yazidis. They aren’t Muslims, so they can be used as chattel.

The men in the discussions asked all sorts of questions about the rules for sexually abusing (i.e., raping) the women. One British Muslim asked, “I have 3,500 dollars to spare, I am going to buy ten, who wants one?” A French man joked that 180 dollars must be the “price for the ugly ones.” There were plenty of “LOLs” in the thread. Because, you know, collecting the female survivors of mass murder and raping them is just so Laugh-Out-Loud funny to cretins who can bed women only at sword-point.

Many of the Westerners flocking to Syria and Iraq for “jihad tourism” don’t have any of the usual excuses one hears for terrorism. Just like the 9/11 hijackers, they are often middle-class, educated, and technologically adept.

What they are not is assimilated. They may have passports identifying them as American, French, or British, but they are not American, French, or British in their hearts. These labels do not give them the meaning and mission in life they crave. And Western democratic capitalism bores them. Often the children of immigrants, they are literally misfits; they don’t fit in with their parents’ native culture, but they also haven’t connected to the society in which they now live.

And that is nothing new. The French intellectual Olivier Roy observed over a decade ago that many of the violent Islamists in Europe were in fact “born-again Muslims” who adopted Islam not so much as a sincere religious conversion but as a radical pose against the West. In previous generations, they might have joined Marxist terror groups.

In other words, the ideology of radical Islamists is a convenient uniform in their crusade for power, sex, vengeance, excitement, whatever. The Telegraph’s Tim Stanley notes that one poll in France finds that more people in France, compared with residents of the Gaza Strip, support the Islamic State.

NBC News reports that since the release of the video showing the beheading of American journalist James Foley, some 28,000 pro–Islamic State Twitter accounts were created.

There have always been isolated losers. But that isolation often inspired its own remedy. People want to belong to a community. That desire fuels assimilation and civilization. The horrifying challenge of today is that thanks to the digital age and an ideology and a culture that often sees assimilation as incompatible with “multiculturalism,” the losers no longer have to stop being losers to cure their sense of isolation. They can join a huge virtual rape gang on the Web and have their evil desires confirmed and celebrated. And some of them, weary of puncturing their masturbatory reveries by pecking out LOL on a keyboard, have the option of hopping on a plane.
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Re: A Foreign Legion for Losers By Jonah Goldberg
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 03:19:34 am »
Jonah Goldberg:
[[ A Foreign Legion for Losers...]]

They may look like "losers" to you, Jonah, but they certainly seem to be racking up their fair share of "victories" over there....

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Re: A Foreign Legion for Losers By Jonah Goldberg
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2014, 03:31:12 am »
They are not exactly losers.

Were the Vietcong losers? Khamir Rouge? (I can never spell that - the Killing Fields lot). Mao's forces?

They are a straight up, full on army. Incredibly practiced in what they do, and if I could grab their top level of command I'd recruit the sods to teach at Sandhurst and West Point if possible. They are GOOD. Several years of constant warfare tends to make you that way.

This fool author is doing the world a disservice. No worse than the fool in the White House, but still, more people probably pay attention to this guy. It just enrages me. There is a clear and present threat - and the Worm is pink slipping experienced combat officers and non-coms. You know, the ones you want handy when it does fall in the pot.
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Re: A Foreign Legion for Losers By Jonah Goldberg
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 03:38:21 am »
They are not exactly losers.

Were the Vietcong losers? Khamir Rouge? (I can never spell that - the Killing Fields lot). Mao's forces?

They are a straight up, full on army. Incredibly practiced in what they do, and if I could grab their top level of command I'd recruit the sods to teach at Sandhurst and West Point if possible. They are GOOD. Several years of constant warfare tends to make you that way.

This fool author is doing the world a disservice. No worse than the fool in the White House, but still, more people probably pay attention to this guy. It just enrages me. There is a clear and present threat - and the Worm is pink slipping experienced combat officers and non-coms. You know, the ones you want handy when it does fall in the pot.

He's stalling on doing anything to ISIS so they can gain more territory, equipment and money.  He's letting them build up - all the while, he's gutting our military and it's experienced leadership.  He has a plan, but the time is not right yet. 

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Re: A Foreign Legion for Losers By Jonah Goldberg
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2014, 03:59:15 am »
He's stalling on doing anything to ISIS so they can gain more territory, equipment and money.  He's letting them build up - all the while, he's gutting our military and it's experienced leadership.  He has a plan, but the time is not right yet.

I just can't find the missing piece.

Why?

We've talked about it a lot - the Worm does seem to detest every single thing the USA (and European culture in general) stands for - but why? His father - who was a total scumbag? He got programmed while in Indonesia? That one is possible, but unlikely. Radical Marxist ideology - of the burn down the world variety? Pay-off from the brotherhood itself - hes made a lot of money since he got voted in, way more than most Presidents.

All plausible. None of them convincing.
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Re: A Foreign Legion for Losers By Jonah Goldberg
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 04:17:35 am »
I just can't find the missing piece.

Why?

We've talked about it a lot - the Worm does seem to detest every single thing the USA (and European culture in general) stands for - but why? His father - who was a total scumbag? He got programmed while in Indonesia? That one is possible, but unlikely. Radical Marxist ideology - of the burn down the world variety? Pay-off from the brotherhood itself - hes made a lot of money since he got voted in, way more than most Presidents.

All plausible. None of them convincing.

How about the articles describing the effects of regular pot use on youthful brains? Our president shows many of the negative signs of that - lowered IQ, problems with memory, decision making and concentration, etc. His choom gang was definitely an important part of his history, in more ways than one, I think.

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Re: A Foreign Legion for Losers By Jonah Goldberg
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 04:57:01 am »
How about the articles describing the effects of regular pot use on youthful brains? Our president shows many of the negative signs of that - lowered IQ, problems with memory, decision making and concentration, etc. His choom gang was definitely an important part of his history, in more ways than one, I think.

Something I didn't think about. Another possible.
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