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 By - The Washington Times - Updated: 5:29 p.m. on Thursday, August 28, 2014

President Obama acknowledged Thursday he doesn’t have a plan for defeating Islamist militants in Syria and backed away from imminent military action, while he also downplayed reports of a new Russian invasion in Ukraine.

“We don’t have a strategy yet,” Mr. Obama said of his plans for defeating the Islamic State in Syria. “We need to make sure that we’ve got clear plans. As our strategy develops, we will consult with Congress.”

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After a week of speculation that he was about to expand U.S. air strikes against the terrorist group from Iraq into Syria, the president said he has ordered his military advisers to give him “a range of options.” But Mr. Obama tried to tamp down the suggestion that his decision was imminent, saying “folks are getting a little further ahead of where we’re at than we currently are.”

“We need to make sure that we’ve got clear plans, that we’re developing them,” Mr. Obama said at a White House news conference. “There’s no point in me asking for action on the part of Congress before I know exactly what it is that is going to be required for us to get the job done.”

The president pushed back a meeting of his national security team until later Thursday evening. Earlier this week, he ordered surveillance flights in Syria to locate potential targets against the group that has beheaded an American journalist and is holding other Americans hostage.

Mr. Obama said his immediate focus is protecting American personnel in Iraq, rather than going after the militants in Syria. The Islamic State controls a wide swath of territory straddling the border of both countries.

“My priority at this point is to make sure that the gains that [the Islamic State] made in Iraq are rolled back and that Iraq has the opportunity to govern itself effectively and secure itself,” Mr. Obama said.

In the other military crisis facing the president, Mr. Obama took a noticeably low-key approach to the news that Russian forces in tanks and armored personnel carriers captured a key town in Ukraine Thursday, opening a new front in the six-month-old war and drawing fresh international condemnation at Moscow’s increasingly direct involvement in the fighting.

“I consider the actions we’ve seen in the last week a continuation of what’s been taking place for months now,” Mr. Obama said.

That attitude contrasted sharply with comments from U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power, who said Russia “is not listening” to the international outcry, including the increasingly broad economic sanctions imposed by the U.S. and the European Union. She said in the past 48 hours, “Russia’s actions have spoken volumes.”

“Russia has to stop lying and has to stop fueling this conflict,” she said. “We see Russia’s actions for what they are: a deliberate effort to support, and now fight alongside, illegal separatists in another sovereign country.”

Some Republican lawmakers said Russia’s actions demonstrate why the Obama administration should send arms to the Ukrainian government.

“The United States and our European allies should immediately begin providing intelligence and defensive weapons to Ukraine, including anti-armor systems,” said Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina in a joint statement. “We should also impose real sectoral sanctions on Russia — not the half-measures taken to date, but full sanctions on Russia’s defense, financial, energy, and other sectors.”

They said it was “a moment to speak and act with clarity.”

“A sovereign nation in the heart of Europe is being invaded by its larger neighbor,” they said. “This runs completely contrary to the civilized world that America and our partners have sought to build since World War II. If we will not or cannot defend our own values now, as well as friends who share them, the future will be dark and dangerous indeed, not just for Ukraine but for us too.”

The president pushed back a meeting of his national security team until later Thursday evening. Earlier this week, he ordered surveillance flights in Syria to locate potential targets against the group that has beheaded an American journalist and is holding other Americans hostage.

Mr. Obama said his immediate focus is protecting American personnel in Iraq, rather than going after the militants in Syria. The Islamic State controls a wide swath of territory straddling the border of both countries.

“My priority at this point is to make sure that the gains that [the Islamic State] made in Iraq are rolled back and that Iraq has the opportunity to govern itself effectively and secure itself,” Mr. Obama said.

In the other military crisis facing the president, Mr. Obama took a noticeably low-key approach to the news that Russian forces in tanks and armored personnel carriers captured a key town in Ukraine Thursday, opening a new front in the six-month-old war and drawing fresh international condemnation at Moscow’s increasingly direct involvement in the fighting.

“I consider the actions we’ve seen in the last week a continuation of what’s been taking place for months now,” Mr. Obama said.

That attitude contrasted sharply with comments from U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power, who said Russia “is not listening” to the international outcry, including the increasingly broad economic sanctions imposed by the U.S. and the European Union. She said in the past 48 hours, “Russia’s actions have spoken volumes.”

“Russia has to stop lying and has to stop fueling this conflict,” she said. “We see Russia’s actions for what they are: a deliberate effort to support, and now fight alongside, illegal separatists in another sovereign country.”

Some Republican lawmakers said Russia’s actions demonstrate why the Obama administration should send arms to the Ukrainian government.

“The United States and our European allies should immediately begin providing intelligence and defensive weapons to Ukraine, including anti-armor systems,” said Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina in a joint statement. “We should also impose real sectoral sanctions on Russia — not the half-measures taken to date, but full sanctions on Russia’s defense, financial, energy, and other sectors.”

They said it was “a moment to speak and act with clarity.”

“A sovereign nation in the heart of Europe is being invaded by its larger neighbor,” they said. “This runs completely contrary to the civilized world that America and our partners have sought to build since World War II. If we will not or cannot defend our own values now, as well as friends who share them, the future will be dark and dangerous indeed, not just for Ukraine but for us too.”

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Re: Obama confesses: ‘We don’t have a strategy yet’ for Islamic State
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 10:16:20 pm »
He just told the whole world, friends and enemies, that he doesn't know what to do....
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Re: Obama confesses: ‘We don’t have a strategy yet’ for Islamic State
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 10:47:04 pm »
He's had since June to put together a strategy. Golf, vacations, and fund raisers far more important.    Remember the campaign battle between Hillary and Obama, about who would be best prepared to answer the call at 3AM in the morning?   Sure isn't Obama.
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Re: Obama confesses: ‘We don’t have a strategy yet’ for Islamic State
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 11:24:03 pm »
He just told the whole world, friends and enemies, that he doesn't know what to do....

You really have to wonder which side he is on. The only promise he has ever made that he actually kept was when he said he would "stand with the Muslims, should the political winds shift in an 'ugly'(his definition of ugly, would be if pepole became wise to what Islam really is) direction.
 
He has given Iraq directly to Iran on a silver platter, and remember, this is the same guy who delivered a Top Secret steath drone to Iran, again, on a silver platter. He claimed it was a navigation error and refused to do an air strike to destroy it.
 
He has refused to fight ISIS and has given them a huge amount of classified information, such as the failed rescue attempt. He has told them that there will never be "boots on the ground", which is a hugh boon to them. He told the Taleeeebaan, the exact date we are going to leave. Yeah, thanks Obama, you freakin idiot.
 
He destroyed Libya in an attempt to further the Muslim Brotherhood caliphate. He overthrew Egypt to install the Muslim Brotherhood, which the people of Egypt managed to take back. He supported the groups fighting against Assad in Syria in hopes of installing the Muslim Brotherhood.
 
Remember, when the Muslim Brotherhood was running Egypt and essentially declaring war on the "pigs and dogs" in Israel, he was pouring aid and military arms to them. As soon as the MB was expelled by the people of Egypt, who did not want them, Obama severly cut back aid to Egypt and especially military aid.
 
This guy is fighting with the Muslims. My God, it is so clear. If this guy is not an agent of Iran, he is ripping himself off. He could have made hundreds of millions from them for all he is giving them.
 
Now, like a child, he tells the world, "I don't know what to do."
 
Obama is two steps below Chamberlain in terms of 'balls' and being a freaking adult, and he is five levels below the idiot 'Jimmah Caataah' on the same scale.
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Re: Obama confesses: ‘We don’t have a strategy yet’ for Islamic State
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 12:09:04 am »
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As our strategy develops, we will consult with Congress.
How many times has he said he doesn't care what Congress says, he'll do what he wants? Now it suddenly occurs to him to consult with them? Please.
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Re: Obama confesses: ‘We don’t have a strategy yet’ for Islamic State
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 12:24:58 am »

You really have to wonder which side he is on. The only promise he has ever made that he actually kept was when he said he would "stand with the Muslims, should the political winds shift in an 'ugly'(his definition of ugly, would be if pepole became wise to what Islam really is) direction.
 
He has given Iraq directly to Iran on a silver platter, and remember, this is the same guy who delivered a Top Secret steath drone to Iran, again, on a silver platter. He claimed it was a navigation error and refused to do an air strike to destroy it.
 
He has refused to fight ISIS and has given them a huge amount of classified information, such as the failed rescue attempt. He has told them that there will never be "boots on the ground", which is a hugh boon to them. He told the Taleeeebaan, the exact date we are going to leave. Yeah, thanks Obama, you freakin idiot.
 
He destroyed Libya in an attempt to further the Muslim Brotherhood caliphate. He overthrew Egypt to install the Muslim Brotherhood, which the people of Egypt managed to take back. He supported the groups fighting against Assad in Syria in hopes of installing the Muslim Brotherhood.
 
Remember, when the Muslim Brotherhood was running Egypt and essentially declaring war on the "pigs and dogs" in Israel, he was pouring aid and military arms to them. As soon as the MB was expelled by the people of Egypt, who did not want them, Obama severly cut back aid to Egypt and especially military aid.
 
This guy is fighting with the Muslims. My God, it is so clear. If this guy is not an agent of Iran, he is ripping himself off. He could have made hundreds of millions from them for all he is giving them.
 
Now, like a child, he tells the world, "I don't know what to do."
 
Obama is two steps below Chamberlain in terms of 'balls' and being a freaking adult, and he is five levels below the idiot 'Jimmah Caataah' on the same scale.


240B, you have laid out a case as clear as anyone could - that Obama is working on the side of radical Islamists!  If anyone still thinks Obama is on America's side, they are truly the village idiot and should be sterilized so they will not breed. 

 
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Re: Obama confesses: ‘We don’t have a strategy yet’ for Islamic State
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2014, 02:12:22 am »
Alice wrote above:
[[ If anyone still thinks Obama is on America's side, they are truly the village idiot and should be sterilized so they will not breed.  ]]

Yet if I raise the proposition that a president so demonstrably anti-American should be impeached and removed from office, there are folks in this forum who will immediately respond with -facepalms-, cries of "we can't do that because it will damage our brand with the American people", etc. etc., blah, blah, blah.

It's becoming more and more clear about who Obama actually is, and about what he believes, and what he is trying to do the country -- and, also clear that he is succeeding at doing it.

Yet no one will stop him.

"We can't do it because he's black and the blacks will never vote for us again !!!"
Well, they're not going to vote for you again, anyway, dummies!

Like GourmetDan keeps posting, the Republicans are slowly but steadily marginalizing themselves out of existence. Like some kind of moribund whale, they are still winning elections while accomplishing less and less, while their integrity fades into invisibility leaving only the grin of a Cheshire cat.

The conventional wisdom has been that the Republicans are going to have a "wave election" this November, sweeping into office everywhere. But as some are pointing out, in the states where they should be surging, the numbers "aren't there". Senate races which should be wipeouts seem to be a lot closer than expected, and the races are barely beginning.

This begs the question: could the democrats hold onto the Senate in '14?
And hold their positions in the House?

Prediction:
UNLESS the Pubbies are able to "ride the wave" in 2014, they are going to be in serious trouble again in 2016.

Prediction 2:
UNLESS the Pubbies decide to use the only Constitutionally-sanctioned action available to them after Obama imposes his new environmental decree on the nation, and unless they take action after his coming "executive amnesty", they ARE going to lose in 2016, because Americans are going to be fed up with a political party that simply cannot "do anything".

This is when a "new party" is going to have the opportunity to break into the scheme of things. We shall see...

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Re: Obama confesses: ‘We don’t have a strategy yet’ for Islamic State
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2014, 03:01:09 am »
I do think that if the Republicans don't come out loud and bold with everything that Obama & Co have done to this country - laying it all out - that they are not going to have the victory that some people are predicting this fall.  IF they can manage to take control of the Senate (but probably won't with this wimpy hide-in-the-corner and shut up strategy they're using right now) and hold on to the house - THEN - I think that impeachment should be on the table. 

But they are going to have to have courage and speak with a clear united voice.  Do you think that's going to happen?  I don't. 
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