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Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« on: August 11, 2014, 07:21:29 PM »

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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 07:24:32 PM »
What about a federal probe of the IRS, Benghazi cover-up, Operation Fast and Furious......./s

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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 07:59:55 PM »
What about a federal probe of the civilian, choked to death by police on Staten Island a few weeks ago?

How about a federal probe of who instigates the looters?
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 08:00:32 PM »
Why not, it's not like he has anything else to do.   :thud:
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 08:33:07 PM »
Shooting an unarmed man requires as many investigations as is needed to get clear on what happened.  I have read so many stories--too many--in recent months of cops, out of control, shooting dogs in fenced back yards and of no threat to the LEO.  It surprises me not at all that a cop would shoot a man with no weapon THIRTY-FIVE FEET away from him, not once, but several times.

Blacks always sabotage whatever they try to do with their stupidity (rioting), but that should not obscure the fact that this officer likely murdered this young man.  Overly-militarized police departments today are in an us-vs.-them mode.  They are seriously out of control and are generating resentment in the communities they serve. What angers so many is that they seem to ALWAYS get off, protected by that "blue wall". 

Growing numbers of people are getting tired of this and it's just a matter of time until cops no longer have the support of their constituents.

They only have themselves to blame.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 08:53:18 PM »
Yes sink we know, you hate cops.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 08:59:22 PM »
Yes sink we know, you hate cops.

Your glibness aside, there is little doubt that police departments, with their no-knock SWAT raids, are killing and maiming at an alarming rate. You can look up the statistics. 

And all of this militarization leads LEOs to want to use all this equipment, often in situations that don't warrant it.

I have two nephews who are former cops, leaving their forces because of the quality of people hired and retained.  You are naive if you think your local force resembles in any way the force you grew up with.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 09:05:30 PM »
Shooting an unarmed man requires as many investigations as is needed to get clear on what happened.  I have read so many stories--too many--in recent months of cops, out of control, shooting dogs in fenced back yards and of no threat to the LEO.  It surprises me not at all that a cop would shoot a man with no weapon THIRTY-FIVE FEET away from him, not once, but several times.

Blacks always sabotage whatever they try to do with their stupidity (rioting), but that should not obscure the fact that this officer likely murdered this young man.  Overly-militarized police departments today are in an us-vs.-them mode.  They are seriously out of control and are generating resentment in the communities they serve. What angers so many is that they seem to ALWAYS get off, protected by that "blue wall". 

Growing numbers of people are getting tired of this and it's just a matter of time until cops no longer have the support of their constituents.

They only have themselves to blame.
I think they have elevated the absolute safety of officers to an unreasonable level.

In my area police officers retire at an early age, with very good retirement pay and benefits. Like they effectively get "hazardous duty pay."

In case after case the bad guy twitches, giving the police justification to kill him/her. Then we find they had no weapon.

In my low crime suburban area, several such incidents have occurred.

--A teenage girl with a knife at a Huntington Beach schoolyard. Shot dead by multiple officers, when she supposedly lunged.
--A mentally ill homeless man in Fullerton California beat to death by multiple officers.
--Teen in Anaheim barrio, shot by officers. He had no weapon.
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--The cigarette vendor in Staten Island NY, choked to death by multiple officers a few days ago.

In each instance, the continued violence by police towards the suspect, was to counter continued "danger" to officers' safety.

I think a new improved paradigm needs to get created for police. Non-lethal measures, when possible. In each case above, the suspect posed little or no threat to officers' safety.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 09:16:13 PM »
Twitter is loaded right now, on #Ferguson, with images of SWATted up cops, in riot gear, with rifles drawn, parading down the street.  In others, we see officers with German Shepherds, snarling and lunging.

Do these departments not know that all of this is viral, that every image is published, and that images of cops with dogs and tear gas bring back images from years ago? 

Who shoots a man, then, when the man puts his hands in the air, shoots him four more times? 
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 09:24:08 PM »
Your glibness aside, there is little doubt that police departments, with their no-knock SWAT raids, are killing and maiming at an alarming rate. You can look up the statistics. 

And all of this militarization leads LEOs to want to use all this equipment, often in situations that don't warrant it.

I have two nephews who are former cops, leaving their forces because of the quality of people hired and retained.  You are naive if you think your local force resembles in any way the force you grew up with.

I'm not sure you know what glib means.   :silly:
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 09:45:17 PM »
I'm not sure you know what glib means.   :silly:

"insincere and shallow" describes the post in question perfectly.

Look it up.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 10:15:41 PM »
Yes sink we know, you hate cops.
He's right .It's gotten to the point I trust cops only slightly more then the gangbangers and criminals 
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2014, 10:17:37 PM »
"insincere and shallow" describes the post in question perfectly.

Look it up.

Um, that's a part of the definition, so yes, you got that part right.  The rest of it, not at all.

Proceed with your cop bashing, though.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2014, 10:20:48 PM »
Believe me, I will.  When two young men leave police work because they, themselves, are afraid of some of the officers they work with, we all ought to be afraid.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2014, 10:34:58 PM »

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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2014, 10:36:50 PM »
Love the Galleria..I have shopped there many times....mostly high-end stores....no idea why the mobs have moved downtown and have targeted the Galleria...

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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 10:43:03 PM »
Love the Galleria..I have shopped there many times....mostly high-end stores....no idea why the mobs have moved downtown and have targeted the Galleria...

Because that's where rich white people own stores, and where rich white people shop.  This isn't an accident that they ended up there.
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 11:02:30 PM »
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2014, 12:15:30 AM »
Remember the armed Korean shop owners in Lost Angeles, when the Rodney King verdict set off days of looting and burning?

A lot of business for contractors, in the aftermath. Very big shopping center contract for my brother, who was the white contractor from Orange County (featured on ABC news).

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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2014, 01:52:25 AM »
It's just "patriotic" looting - it's only fair that the rich white folks pay their share. 
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2014, 06:05:13 AM »
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2014, 07:22:48 AM »
Is this the galleria near Clayton - nowhere near Ferguson?
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2014, 07:25:53 AM »
I guess the folks in Chesterfield and Ladue better arm themselves.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri, racial incident
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2014, 08:35:59 AM »
Well, um, you know, like, they got a grievance. No Justice - no peace. No peace - more free stuff for me.
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