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Obama's 'Drive-By' War in Iraq
« on: August 11, 2014, 02:58:57 PM »
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/08/11/obamas-drive-war-iraq

BY TIMOTHY P. CARNEY, Washington Examiner

President Obama says he doesn’t take lightly the decision to launch air attacks on Iraq — but you couldn’t tell that from the way he launched the attack.

Obama may or may not be making the correct decision in attacking the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria — the well-armed Islamist terrorist group now attempting a horrifying takeover of Iraq — and so it would have been proper for Obama to raise the question for debate in the past few months while ISIS spread across Iraq. Also, the legality of attacking without congressional authorization is murky.

Finally, it’s hard to discern the objective of this attack: Will we bomb until ISIS is eliminated? Or does ISIS simply need to be contained? Are we simply protecting Kurdistan, the semi-autonomous region in northern Iraq? What if American intervention becomes a rallying cry for other terrorist groups in the region? Will we bomb them, too?

In this fog of war, it’s hard to see clearly. But the territory looks upsettingly familiar.

Obama said we needed to attack to prevent a genocide by ISIS. “When we have the unique capabilities to avert a massacre,” he said Thursday night, “the United States of America cannot turn a blind eye.”

This is a familiar line to anyone who has followed the liberal interventionist strain of thought articulated by Obama and President Bill Clinton, and championed by Samantha Power, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. Obama’s words Thursday echoed his justification for attacking Libya:

“Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries,” Obama said in 2011, warning that Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi would exterminate the rebels in his country and their sympathizers. “The United States of America is different. And as president, I refused to wait for the Images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.”

Attacking Libya, it seems clear today, was a mistake. Deposing Gadhafi rid that country of a murderous tyrant, but every species of terrorist and extremist has slithered into the vacuum left behind. “Scumbag Woodstock” is how one counterterrorism contractor in Africa described Libya to Daily Beast reporter Eli Lake.

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Re: Obama's 'Drive-By' War in Iraq
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 04:21:31 PM »
There's an old Navy SEAL maxim that goes "Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber round".

What that means is, when it is time to go into action, you don't just go piss on the other guy's shoe, you go in and kick his ass just as hard as you possibly can.  Obama has not even begun to tax the ammunition stores of the USS Bush in the Persian Gulf.  But even as powerful as a Nimitz carrier is, you cannot operate one around the clock nonstop.  When we were actually fighting a carrier war in the Persian Gulf, we had three that rotated every 24 hours.  #1 Deck is the ready deck.  #2 is standby and is replenishing.  #3 just came off ready status and is in maintenance and pilot rest stand-down but on a longer alert time none the less.  Every morning you rotate decks in order to provide seamless air cover for forces ashore.

The problem we have is that Obama has worked diligently to disassemble all of the military support we so laboriously constructed and we simply do not have the forces now that we had during both Gulf Wars.  Not to mention things are intolerably more dangerous in the whole area, which makes putting a single Nimitz deck in the Gulf that much more dangerous.  I really worry about one of our Hornets getting shot down in Indian country.  We don't have the means in place for deep SAR either.

I worry about the Junior G-Men who are running this op with only Obama's political future in mind, not to mention we have Chucky Hagel and all his flunkies running the Pentagon, and John Fing Kerry making an absolute ass of himself no matter where he goes.  Dangerous time to have so many incompetents running things....


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Re: Obama's 'Drive-By' War in Iraq
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 04:48:35 PM »
There's an old Navy SEAL maxim that goes "Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber round".

What that means is, when it is time to go into action, you don't just go piss on the other guy's shoe, you go in and kick his ass just as hard as you possibly can.  Obama has not even begun to tax the ammunition stores of the USS Bush in the Persian Gulf.  But even as powerful as a Nimitz carrier is, you cannot operate one around the clock nonstop.  When we were actually fighting a carrier war in the Persian Gulf, we had three that rotated every 24 hours.  #1 Deck is the ready deck.  #2 is standby and is replenishing.  #3 just came off ready status and is in maintenance and pilot rest stand-down but on a longer alert time none the less.  Every morning you rotate decks in order to provide seamless air cover for forces ashore.

The problem we have is that Obama has worked diligently to disassemble all of the military support we so laboriously constructed and we simply do not have the forces now that we had during both Gulf Wars.  Not to mention things are intolerably more dangerous in the whole area, which makes putting a single Nimitz deck in the Gulf that much more dangerous.  I really worry about one of our Hornets getting shot down in Indian country.  We don't have the means in place for deep SAR either.

I worry about the Junior G-Men who are running this op with only Obama's political future in mind, not to mention we have Chucky Hagel and all his flunkies running the Pentagon, and John Fing Kerry making an absolute ass of himself no matter where he goes.  Dangerous time to have so many incompetents running things....

And the time has become significantly more dangerous BECAUSE we have so many incompetents running things.....   **nononono*
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Re: Obama's 'Drive-By' War in Iraq
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 10:41:23 PM »
We don't have the means in place for deep SAR either.

We got your back there. That is all I can say. Though you know full well it'll be looking for his head and fetching back his body, should a pilot have to eject.
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