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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 07:04:05 AM »
I dislike cop bashing threads. But they do make it so easy, sometimes.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 10:28:52 AM »
I dislike cop bashing threads. But they do make it so easy, sometimes.

A lot of what people are saying about cops is justified. Most cops being good doesn't make it okay that lack of accountability allows other cops to engage in questionable/unlawful behavior. You're playing a very dangerous game when cops are increasingly allowed to bend the rules and get away with it. Also, are all of these good cops not supposed to defend what is right and call out the bad ones? Whether or not anybody wants to admit it there is a real problem with the United States police force, and it is getting bigger. I personally think it is directly related to the war on drugs.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 10:38:32 AM »
A lot of what people are saying about cops is justified. Most cops being good doesn't make it okay that lack of accountability allows other cops to engage in questionable/unlawful behavior. You're playing a very dangerous game when cops are increasingly allowed to bend the rules and get away with it. Also, are all of these good cops not supposed to defend what is right and call out the bad ones? Whether or not anybody wants to admit it there is a real problem with the United States police force, and it is getting bigger. I personally think it is directly related to the war on drugs.

Are there dirty cops? Yes. In fact - hell yes.

Are they ignored? Sometimes. Cops have the same problem as soldiers or sailors. Uniform blindness. They protect their own, just as you would.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 10:44:10 AM »
Are there dirty cops? Yes. In fact - hell yes.

Are they ignored? Sometimes. Cops have the same problem as soldiers or sailors. Uniform blindness. They protect their own, just as you would.

I can't say I would have turned a blind eye to somebody engaging in unlawful activity that could potentially be harming people that don't deserve it.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 10:54:23 AM »
I can't say I would have turned a blind eye to somebody engaging in unlawful activity that could potentially be harming people that don't deserve it.

I dunno. Know I have done it odd times and I admit it. Turned a blind eye to behavior that isn't going to hurt the unit and is not sociopathic. Betting most vets here have done so. The Us vs. Them mentality catches on fast.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 11:02:34 AM »
I dunno. Know I have done it odd times and I admit it. Turned a blind eye to behavior that isn't going to hurt the unit and is not sociopathic. Betting most vets here have done so. The Us vs. Them mentality catches on fast.

I personally went over there with the us vs them mentality and eventually realized that the world isn't, can't be and never will be that black and white. I realized that a lot of the problems that plague the world are unfortunately caused by little more than paranoia/fear and an unwillingness to understand people that are different than you. I wasn't able to dehumanize them, because I realized that they are humans too.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 11:12:42 AM »
That, they are. The more people who get that, the better.

They are in the main, just people. Trying to make a living, provide for their kids and get ahead. Proud as hell, too. Try giving aid without accepting something. Even if it's a stick of chewing gum. I like them. A lot.

Yet there is a malignancy. The Muslim equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church without the profit motive.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 11:17:55 AM »

Yet there is a malignancy. The Muslim equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church without the profit motive.

I believe that malignancy is caused by fear/paranoia and an unwillingness to understand people that are different. I don't think they are inherently bad people; I think they are desperate and misguided people. More fighting isn't going to change anything. The only way to truly change the world for the better is for enemies to recognize the humanity of their foes and come to terms with their differences.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 11:26:50 AM »
I believe that malignancy is caused by fear/paranoia and an unwillingness to understand people that are different. I don't think they are inherently bad people; I think they are desperate and misguided people. More fighting isn't going to change anything. The only way to truly change the world for the better is for enemies to recognize the humanity of their foes and come to terms with their differences.

We are on the same page there. Same paragraph even.
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 02:32:14 PM »
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 08:59:05 PM »
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Re: Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
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