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McDaniel to file formal challenge
« on: August 04, 2014, 05:37:37 PM »
http://www.wlox.com/story/26191063/mcdaniel-to-file-formal-challenge

Attorney: 'Mathematics' show McDaniel should have won the nomination
by Brad Conaway
August 4, 2014

Chris McDaniel's campaign has announced it is challenging the results of the June 24th runoff election because of evidence that McDaniel should have won.

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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 05:44:09 PM »


It will likely go nowhere with the party, but Cochran's win was probably illegit as far as Mississippi law is concerned.  It seems very probable that more than 8K Cochran votes came from Democrats who had voted in the earlier Dem primary.

This whole sordid business is a testament against open primaries.
 
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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 06:12:22 PM »
This hole sordid business is a testament against open primaries.

It is also a testament to how the (DNC/GOP) PAC will cooperate and act together if they need to. They will do anything that they need to do to keep the insiders club pure. They have the rabble out.
 
The open primary gave them an avenue to reverse the election, but even without open primaries, the GOPe would have at least tried something else. They have to protect their own.
 
Imagine how many elections nationwide in both parties have been corrupted in some way that was never found out, by the establishment's obsession with keeping it's grip on power.
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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2014, 06:44:08 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/04/McDaniel-Launches-Official-Challenge-Of-Election-Results-Says-Evidence-Shows-He-Won

Chris McDaniel: I Beat Thad Cochran by 25,000 Votes

 by Matthew Boyle 4 Aug 2014, 1:47 PM PDT

Six weeks after the primary runoff election, Mississippi State Sen. Chris McDaniel is launching his formal legal challenge of the election results, saying the evidence is so conclusive that he will be calling for courts to recognize him as the true victor of the race rather than calling for a new election.

“Chris McDaniel clearly, clearly won the Republican vote in the runoff,” McDaniel attorney Mitch Tyner said at a Monday press conference. “I say that very assuredly because that’s what the mathematics show. It’s not what I’m arguing. After the election, we did some post-election polling. We determined that of the Democrats that did cross over, 71 percent of them admitted they will not support the Republican in the general election. When you take those polling numbers and you go in and do the mathematical regressions, you can see that Chris McDaniel clearly won the runoff by 25,000 votes.”

“The short answer is we’re not asking for a new election,” Tyner continued. “We’re simply asking that the Republican Party recognize the person who won the runoff election.”

The campaign of incumbent Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS), who was certified by the Mississippi Republican Party as having won the runoff by 7,667 votes on July 7, fired back, saying McDaniel had “made repeated and baseless allegations of fraud and misconduct” since the election.

“We look forward to holding the McDaniel campaign to the burden of proof that the law requires – and, we are dedicated to the defense of the votes of those Mississippians who voted on June 24 for Thad Cochran as their United States Senator, an election which has been as thoroughly reviewed and examined as any in modern Mississippi history,” said Mark Garriga, an attorney for Cochran.

The evidence, presented to the public in the form of affidavits that will be used in McDaniel’s forthcoming official challenge of election results, is hundreds of pages long and encompasses nearly every one of Mississippi’s 82 counties.

At the press conference, McDaniel announced he will be using such evidence to file a formal challenge of the runoff results with the state GOP executive committee. Ten days after he files the challenge with that body—which, given its extensive ties to the GOP establishment in the state, is expected to rule against the Tea Party-backed McDaniel or just simply ignore the challenge—McDaniel can take the challenge into state court.

“It’s been an interesting six weeks since the 24th. We’ve been very, very busy. We’ve covered the state as well as we could with hundreds of volunteers, but justice has no time table, and yet here we stand. They asked us to put up or shut up—well, here we are. Here we are with the evidence,” McDaniel said.

“We know that the conservative movement is passionate about this issue,” McDaniel said. “We know right now that the conservative movement is very angry about what’s occurred. We all witnessed what a segment of our party did leading up to the 24th. We saw despicable acts of race-baiting. We saw despicable allegations from those who are supposed to be leaders in our party. There is no place in the Republican Party for those that would race bait. There is no place in the Republican Party for racism of any kind, and that’s exactly what we saw on those evenings and mornings leading up to the 24th. That has to end. We watched it. We witnessed it. We saw the dirty money coming in from D.C., whether it was from Bloomberg or other Republican United States senators. We saw what they did here in Mississippi.”

McDaniel noted that the actions the GOP establishment took “moved more than 40,000 Democrats into the Republican primary, and in so doing mistakes were made.”

“Some of those weren’t even mistakes—some of it was very intentional,” McDaniel said. “What we’re going to show is a pattern of conduct on the part of a number of people that demonstrates a problem with this election. The evidence is clear.”

McDaniel said activists need to review the evidence dispassionately, looking at just the facts. “We feel that anger, and we feel that frustration, but that’s not what this challenge is about,” McDaniel said. “The reason I hire good lawyers is so I can walk away from it and ask their opinion objectively: What does the evidence show? We have to be dispassionate about the facts. But the facts—they’re on our side. The law is on our side. And these lawyers after several weeks of research will tell you just that.”

McDaniel’s team is specifically pressuring the Republican executive committee in the state to give the evidence a fair shake. “We look forward to our venue in front of the Republican executive committee—they’re colleagues of mine, some of which I’ve known for years,” McDaniel said. “This is an opportunity for our party to take the lead on honest, good and transparent government.”

Tyner, McDaniel’s attorney, said that McDaniel is not seeking a new election, that the evidence is so overwhelming that anyone reviewing it will come to the same conclusion: McDaniel won on June 24.

“Once the state executive committee has had an opportunity to go through the evidence that we have included in this challenge, then they will see that they have no choice but to recognize Chris McDaniel as the nominee of the Republican Party of the state of Mississippi for the United States Senate,” Tyner said, to a loud round of applause from the audience.

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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2014, 07:34:22 PM »
No matter how this turns out, McDaniel is finished in GOP politics.
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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2014, 07:44:42 PM »
No matter how this turns out, McDaniel is finished in GOP politics.


Well, if there is a location where the GOP can demonstrate their factional warfare, why not the state usually rated dead last for education, federal spending mismatch, poverty, etc.

http://msbusiness.com/blog/2014/01/09/report-ranks-state-schools-performance-51st-nation/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spending-charts-maps

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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2014, 07:54:25 PM »
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After the election, we did some post-election polling. We determined that of the Democrats that did cross over, 71 percent of them admitted they will not support the Republican in the general election. When you take those polling numbers and you go in and do the mathematical regressions, you can see that Chris McDaniel clearly won the runoff by 25,000 votes.”

That proves nothing. According to the state law, anyone who didn't vote in the dim primary was eligible to vote in this primary. It doesn't matter who they'll vote for in the general.
I lived in MD for years. I always registered as a dim, because if you couldn't vote in the dim primary, you had no voice in who would eventually win the election. And there rarely was more than one GOP candidate for state offices. But I never had any intention of voting dim in the general election.
If McDaniel's position is correct, then I was voting illegally. Nuts to that. The only number that would count is the number of people who voted in the dim primary and also voted in this primary. And he never gives those numbers, does he?

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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2014, 08:39:49 PM »
No matter how this turns out, McDaniel is finished in GOP politics.

Never is a long time.  I think there is growing intolerance Nationwide for this kind of BS out of both parties and that means the GOP is ripe for a housecleaning.  Kick the right asses, boot the Chochran Cabal out of the Party and reform it from within. 


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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2014, 09:44:01 PM »
What there is a growing intolerance for are sore losers.  How does McDaniel expect to represent people who are ready to move on from this?
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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2014, 10:04:21 PM »
Wow. You are amazing. Your persistence is commendable.
 
I am guessing that YOUR answer is that he can't. Because the GOPe acted illeagly and overthrew the election, from YOUR point of view, this make him, 'McDaniel', unable to govern?
 
That is a unique point of view. Of course it is batshit crazy, but it is unique and inventive and consistent.
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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2014, 01:40:36 AM »
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“Chris McDaniel clearly, clearly won the Republican vote in the runoff,” McDaniel attorney Mitch Tyner said at a Monday press conference. “I say that very assuredly because that’s what the mathematics show. It’s not what I’m arguing. After the election, we did some post-election polling. We determined that of the Democrats that did cross over, 71 percent of them admitted they will not support the Republican in the general election. When you take those polling numbers and you go in and do the mathematical regressions, you can see that Chris McDaniel clearly won the runoff by 25,000 votes.”

They did a poll and checked facebook pages?  That is their evidence.  :silly:

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The complaint is a thick, three-ring binder that includes media reports of previous allegations about Cochran and his supporters, affidavits from McDaniel volunteers who scoured voting records, people's social media posts and polling of voters after the primary.


When the MSGOPe decides McDaniel is wasting our time the Tea-Birchers will have to shop for a judge.  That is going to be hard.

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Re: McDaniel to file formal challenge
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2014, 01:52:08 AM »
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/214274-mcdaniel-declare-me-the-mississippi-winner

"Like other Mississippians, we have watched with interest as the McDaniel campaign has made repeated and baseless allegations of fraud and misconduct against not only members of the Cochran campaign staff, but also Circuit Clerks and volunteer poll workers around the state," said Cochran campaign attorney Mark Garriga.

"The filing of this challenge marks the point where this matter moves from an arena of press conferences and rhetoric into a setting where nothing matters but admissible evidence and the rule of law," Garriga continued. "We look forward to holding the McDaniel campaign to the burden of proof that the law requires – and, we are dedicated to the defense of the votes of those Mississippians who voted on June 24 for Thad Cochran as their United States Senator, an election which has been as thoroughly reviewed and examined as any in modern Mississippi history."
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