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Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« on: August 03, 2014, 09:31:02 AM »


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Obama please list Muslim contributions to America

 
Obama released a statement thanking Muslims for their many “achievements and contributions to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy.”

I’d like to know what Muslims have done to improve America. It must be a secret list, kept with Obama’s birth certificate and his college transcripts!

All the Muslims do is complain about Israel and why Obama isn’t doing more to promote Islam, as this video suggests:
 
Muslim-Americans Fed Up With Obama Administration

 
Obama said this in Egypt.


The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog, because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country.”

I’d like Obama to list THREE contributions of Muslims to the fabric of America. In fact, I Googled “Muslim contributions to America,” and here is an excerpt from one website, the title of the article being, “American history incomplete without Muslim contribution”


As the Muslim population in America increases, it is especially important to look back on the history of Islam in America and to acknowledge and appreciate Muslim American contributions.

The scholarship of Dr. Sylviane Diouf of the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, Dr. Michael Gomez of New York University and Amir Muhammad of America’s Islamic Heritage Museum has confirmed that some of the slaves brought to the Americas from West Africa were Muslims. The transmission and sustainment of the faith over several centuries among their descendants has been documented through artifacts, paintings, writings and even gravestones depicting a connection to the religion.

Given their enslavement and heavily restricted mobility, these early believers could neither avail themselves of American citizenship nor did they have the liberty to transform their presence into communities and institutions. However, there is evidence that American leaders of the time, including the founding fathers of our nation, such as John Quincy Adams and Thomas Jefferson, were quite familiar with Islam and possessed copies of the Holy Qur’an in their personal libraries.

As you can see, there is NO real contribution mention, just the notion that a couple of presidents had Qu’rans. And in case you missed it, the Muslims are intent one thing: Expanding.

Here is another post…


The Nation of Islam (NOI), one of the most significant organizations in American Muslim history, is founded.  A high percentage of African Americans who were members of Nation of Islam later converted to  Islam. NOI was also effective in highlighting American Christians’ difficulties combating the effects of slavery and racism among African Americans. The NOI’s philosophy was introduced in the United States by Fard Muhammad (Wallace Ford), a mystic who disappeared in 1933. The late Elijah Mohammed, who succeeded Fard in 1933, helped build the organization into a strong ethnic movement advocating a deviant brand of Islam as a way of life. Two of the most famous African Americans, Muhammad Ali, and Al Hajj Malik al-Shabazz (Malcolm X), were early adherents of this movement. Both later embraced the true Islam

So the Nation of Islam is a contribution? Holy Kwanzaa, what would we do without the Nation of Islam.

 

Outside of raising my alert to “high” when I’m on airplanes, and showcasing how to treat women as surrogates, I can’t seem to put my finger on much positive coming from our Muslim brethren.

I am all about the mosaic that is America. I love the idea of other cultures contributing to America, their dress, their music, and the overall improvement of the greatest civilization ever. That’s how it was back in the day, as people assimilated and America got stronger. But as Dillon wrote, “Times, they are a changin’.”

America is now catering to other cultures, religions, and so on, to the point of forgetting our identity. In the case of Obama’s comments to mark the celebration of Eid-al-Fitr, a time of spiritual renewal for Muslims, Obama was not merely trying to placate Muslims. Obama believes that America is having a Muslim Renaissance ushered in by him.

Truth be told, if it weren’t for oil, nobody would even know what a Muslim was. As one of my scholar friends said, “When a Muslim takes over anything, it doesn’t take long for it to become a wasteland.”

Obama has elevated my friend from scholar to prophet.

Read more at http://theblacksphere.net/2014/7/will-somebody-list-muslim-contributions-to-america#dHA84zXeWE5WRXVt.99
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2014, 10:05:00 AM »
Opinion, not news.

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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2014, 11:55:57 AM »
Opinion, not news.

Again - it is in the opinion thread.
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2014, 12:15:11 PM »
Liberalism isn't really about making the world a better place. It's about reassuring the elites that they are good people for wanting to rule over it.

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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2014, 12:27:44 PM »
Obama is a brainwashed idiot.
 
In his world view, Muslims built everything good on Earth, and those evil White colonialists are responsible for everything negative in the history of the world. And everything the White people have, they stole from the Muslims and from Black people. This really is what he believes.
 
People like Obama, who have limited brain power, think this way all the time. They don't like deep thought, history, or context. They want things to be simple.
 
Obama is the poster child for this mindset. Muslim good. Not Muslim bad.
 
That's all. End of discussion.
 
(I still cannot believe America elected this radical fool. f**king amazing)
makes you wonder who is the bigger fool.
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2014, 12:57:35 PM »
As I said on another thread: Muslims invented the concept of zero.

You got a Zero in the white house
You got a zero as Sec. State.
Zero idea on domestic policy.
Zero idea on foreign policy.
Zero idea what to do.

So yep - Muslims had a profound impact on the USA.
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2014, 04:16:18 PM »
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2014, 04:23:40 PM »
To be fair, there is one major figure that can at least get credit. The Sultan Abdallah of Morocco. He was the first to recognize the US as an independent country even though we were still fighting the Revolutionary War and provided us merchant ships that helped supply the army. The Treaty of Marrakech is recognized as the first international treaty by the US and is the longest lasting treaty.

Of course, it will be argued that the Sultan didn't do it for our benefit but as a strike against the British Empire to help him control shipping lanes.

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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2014, 04:30:25 PM »
Forget America, what have Muslims contributed to the history of the WORLD but violence and a perpetuation of 8th century values?
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2014, 04:35:51 PM »
Forget America, what have Muslims contributed to the history of the WORLD but violence and a perpetuation of 8th century values?

They did keep a lot of history alive. Knowledge too. Until the more violent ones decided to destroy the library in Baghdad, since they only needed "one book." Same reason the Catholics gave to wipe out Alexandria.
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2014, 05:21:04 PM »
They did keep a lot of history alive. Knowledge too. Until the more violent ones decided to destroy the library in Baghdad, since they only needed "one book." Same reason the Catholics gave to wipe out Alexandria.

There was a brief time when many Islamic Sultans had some of the biggest libraries and collections of knowledge as well as contributed greatly to scientific and medical knowledge (circa 780 to 1200). They established the House of Wisdom which led some of the greatest ancient document translations in history.

I would argue though that this wasn't due to Islamic philosophy but in spite of it.

The real reason was the great, accumulated wealth of Sultans like Abbasid which afforded them the time to explore leisurely activities and collect the knowledge. They also were vital in the empires they were building and running the trade routes.

By today's standard, they would be considered quite secular and probably labeled infidel. At that, modern Islamic scholars like Iran's Shoja-e-din Shafa actually condemns that age as religiously lost.
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Re: Obama, please list Muslim contributions to America
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2014, 05:26:31 PM »
They did keep a lot of history alive. Knowledge too. Until the more violent ones decided to destroy the library in Baghdad, since they only needed "one book." Same reason the Catholics gave to wipe out Alexandria.

The history is a little muddier on that.  Per the wikipedia article:

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The library is famous for having been burned resulting in the loss of many scrolls and books, and has become a symbol of the destruction of cultural knowledge. A few sources differ on who is responsible for the destruction and when it occurred. Although there is a mythology of the burning of the Library at Alexandria, the library may have suffered several fires or acts of destruction over many years. Possible occasions for the partial or complete destruction of the Library of Alexandria include a fire set by Julius Caesar in 48 BC, an attack by Aurelian in the A.D. 270s, the decree of Coptic Pope Theophilus in A.D. 391, and the decree of the second caliph Omar ibn Al-khattāb in A.D. 640.

After the main library was fully destroyed, ancient scholars used a "daughter library" in a temple known as the Serapeum, located in another part of the city. According to Socrates of Constantinople, Coptic Pope Theophilus destroyed the Serapeum in A.D. 391.
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