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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2711757/There-anger-frustration-embarrassment-s-no-reason-truth-America-Congressman-calls-release-redacted-9-11-papers.html

'There will be anger, frustration and embarrassment, but that's no reason to keep the truth from America': Congressman calls for release of redacted 9/11 papers

    Rep Thomas Massie joins call for government to declassify pages of report
    He said the material made him 'try to rearrange my understanding of history'
    Congressmen Walter Jones and Stephen Lynch introduced House Resolution last year calling upon Obama administration to release pages

By James Rush

Published: 05:46 EST, 31 July 2014 | Updated: 12:14 EST, 31 July 2014

A U.S. congressman calling for the release of classified material from a report into 9/11 has warned there would be 'anger, frustration, and embarrassment' if the redacted pages were made public.

Representative Thomas Massie has joined a call for the government to declassify 28 pages redacted from the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001.

Earlier this year, the lawmaker described how he had to 'try to rearrange my understanding of history' after he read the classified pages of the joint investigation by the House and Senate intelligence committees.

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Well, I'm already having anger, frustration and embarrassment over Obama being our president- so I'm really already there.  Bring it on!
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Glenn Beck was going on about this other day, but I heard only a few minutes and missed his interview with Rep. Massie. Apparently, release of this info won't do anything for Bush's legacy - or anyone else's.  :shrug:
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Glenn Beck was going on about this other day, but I heard only a few minutes and missed his interview with Rep. Massie. Apparently, release of this info won't do anything for Bush's legacy - or anyone else's.  :shrug:

How could this possibly be harmful to Bush...he was only in office a few months when 9-11 happened?

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I can only imagine the startling stuff that is in the report.  On second thought, no I can't.  Some of it will be viewed through the lens of hindsight.  Some of it will be the result of ineptitude, lack of communication, and carelessness.  The debates will rage.  Some will think events were allowed to happen.

People still debate if Roosevelt knew of Pearl Harbor.  History is messy and complex.  But I have no doubt we will be in for many shocks.
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Glenn Beck was going on about this other day, but I heard only a few minutes and missed his interview with Rep. Massie. Apparently, release of this info won't do anything for Bush's legacy - or anyone else's.  :shrug:

Same here.  I heard Beck hinting around this earlier in the week, and I figured if there was anything to it someone else would have brought it up by now.  So here it is in the UK press...and I still have no frickin' clue what could be in this that would be so devastating....

Unless it is material that directly indicts actions taken or not taken by the Clinton Administration which directly preceeded the 9/11 attacks.  Let's not forget how the outgoing Clintonians trashed the White House on the way out...no telling what political landmines were planted that were intended for the Bush Administration and went off on 9/11. 

And didn't Sandy Burglar get caught with 28 pages of official something stuffed in his drawers...???

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How could this possibly be harmful to Bush...he was only in office a few months when 9-11 happened?


The churning media and politicos will certainly do their best to bend everything that way.  The upside is it could really put into perspective the measures Bush took after 9/11.
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I would rather they not release it until after the election.  This would just give the media something to talk about - instead of Obama & Co's dismal job performance.
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I would rather they not release it until after the election.  This would just give the media something to talk about - instead of Obama & Co's dismal job performance.

My cynicism has been carefully cultivated since the age of ten.

I would much rather all supposed documents be released BEFORE either of the Bush presidents' demise, because frankly, both side have accused each other of editing documents, etc..  Hacking is done not only for obtaining information, but also, changing 'facts'.

Once GWB dies, history will be scrubbed and rewritten and nobody will be around to challenge them.

Like it or not, we're actually in the middle of the Second American Revolution. 

IMO, Fort Sumter was the criminal, dishonest passing of the Affordable Care Act.
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I want the papers to come out, and before either of the Bush's deaths or Clintons too.  I have been lied to so many times in my 58 years here on earth, by both sides.  The government has not one "smidgeon" of credibility with me at all.  I don't care who it looks bad on, I just want to hear some truth for once.

But still, I feel like it will be a distraction if released before the election.  Rep. Massie is my congressman, he is definitely a Tea Party type of guy, so it is interesting to me that he has chosen now to call for it's release. 
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The revelations are likely far more damning to Clinton than anyone else.
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From what I've read in other articles, these amount to nothingburgers for most folks except the CT crowd who will try to put together random dots. Most of the stuff is actually known. The senators calling for the release have said it is about flying out Saudi officials and some of OBL's extended family out of the country after the attacks (typical diplomatic stuff for the Saudi government officials and OBL was estranged from his family so there is probably nothing there). There also is some discussion of Saudi financing the AQ network but that has been known for a long time. That has always been a balancing act with OPEC nations since the 70s, keeping them from strangling our economy versus their funding religious fanatics.

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From what I've read in other articles, these amount to nothingburgers for most folks except the CT crowd who will try to put together random dots. Most of the stuff is actually known. The senators calling for the release have said it is about flying out Saudi officials and some of OBL's extended family out of the country after the attacks (typical diplomatic stuff for the Saudi government officials and OBL was estranged from his family so there is probably nothing there). There also is some discussion of Saudi financing the AQ network but that has been known for a long time. That has always been a balancing act with OPEC nations since the 70s, keeping them from strangling our economy versus their funding religious fanatics.

Why has Prince Bandar fallen off the radar?
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Why has Prince Bandar fallen off the radar?


He retired earlier this year.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/16/prince-bandar-saudi-intelligence-syria

Although, what he did with Syria makes me wonder if he is a world chess player and may have made some very bad moves he would like to remain unknown.

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How could this possibly be harmful to Bush...he was only in office a few months when 9-11 happened?

It almost seems like the POTUS isn't actually the head honcho.  :pondering:
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I want the papers to come out, and before either of the Bush's deaths or Clintons too.  I have been lied to so many times in my 58 years here on earth, by both sides.  The government has not one "smidgeon" of credibility with me at all.  I don't care who it looks bad on, I just want to hear some truth for once.

But still, I feel like it will be a distraction if released before the election.  Rep. Massie is my congressman, he is definitely a Tea Party type of guy, so it is interesting to me that he has chosen now to call for it's release.

I think all of the hidden truths coming to light would cause the citizens of this nation to tear down the system to its foundations and rebuild it.
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I think all of the hidden truths coming to light would cause the citizens of this nation to tear down the system to its foundations and rebuild it.

Naaa, they would just tune in to the next season of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo thinking she can Dance with the Bachelor during Shark Week hunted by Duck Dynasty.

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So now we know why the bubba revelation about his unwillingness to take out Obama has surfaced.


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So now we know why the bubba revelation about his unwillingness to take out Obama has surfaced.

It does call the timing of that into question. 
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Naaa, they would just tune in to the next season of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo thinking she can Dance with the Bachelor during Shark Week hunted by Duck Dynasty.

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