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Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« on: August 01, 2014, 03:50:09 PM »


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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 03:50:59 PM »
I knew it, the only reason Brennan apologized, to be able to bring this up. 


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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 04:01:59 PM »
I knew it, the only reason Brennan apologized, to be able to bring this up.

Oh come on!  It was an "accident."  Obama said so. :3:
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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 04:15:13 PM »
Oh come on!  It was an "accident."  Obama said so. :3:
He really didn't say it was a accident...................did he?


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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2014, 04:31:18 PM »
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US 'tortured some folks'

Who gives a sh*t!

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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2014, 07:02:22 PM »
Obama is really a moron. My God.
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 07:03:32 PM »
Red is positive, black is negative and make sure his balls are wet.
For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev

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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2014, 07:07:26 PM »
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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2014, 07:29:39 PM »
Friday January 20, 2017  can't come quick enough.

Isn't that truth. Everytime I hear Obama lecture about "our values", I always wonder if he talking about him and Moochelle. I know he is not talking about us. How can you spend your life talking about what an evil, unjust, nation America is, and then lecture Americans on American values. This is opposite logic. According to Obama, America is evil and has no good moral values. So which one is it?
 
This is the same thing as having a Mexican La Raza spokesman lecturing America on what America is. Every time I hear a Mexican on some interview actually shouting, "Dis is not American value!", "Dis is not what America is all about!" it makes me throw my show at the TV.
 
The last thing I want to hear is some illegal Mexican lecturing ME about "what America is". There is nothing more insulting. The same with Obama. How the hell would they know what 'American values' are?
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.

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Re: Obama says after 9-11, US 'tortured some folks'
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2014, 08:06:20 PM »
only "some"?  Reminds me of a little hypothetical my crim law prof. used to like using with fresh-faced 1Ls - designed to test supposedly rock-solid principles - in brief:

you're the police chief in NYC.  You get rock solid information that an Irish terrorist has hidden a nuclear bomb in NYC that is set to go off in 24 hours.  You also have the terrorist in custody:  a 30 y.o. woman with a young child.  What you don't have is the location of the bomb.  To cut to the chase:  do you "torture" the terrorist to get her to tell you where the bomb is hidden?

My prof's bottom line:  of course you do.

In other words, the techniques used are proportional to the threat involved.  Considering the situation after 9-11, the surprise would be if the US went milquetoast and didn't "torture" anyone at all.


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