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Mitt Romney was right about everything in 2012. So why not Romney 2016?


Because elections aren't about choosing the candidate who's 'right'...


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Romney has "gravitas," and being right adds to his appeal.

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Because elections aren't about choosing the candidate who's 'right'...

Romney would have been such an upgrade over Obama it's hard to put into words. However, I question Romney's fire. I think he felt compelled to run, but he didn't have the desire to be president one would expect from a candidate. It could be argued that too much of a desire to attain office is a bad thing too, so on this point, I would give ground. Romney's second problem is that in the American Idol culture we now have, Romney is a Republican loser. I'm not sure that can be overcome.

I like Romney, I think he's a good man. I tried to convince anyone who would listen to vote for Romney, (something I didn't do with McCain). I'm a realist, I know that Romney has positions that would have grinded my gears, but as I said, compared to Obama, Romney is Ronald Reagan, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln rolled into one man.

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I like Romney, I think he's a good man. I tried to convince anyone who would listen to vote for Romney, (something I didn't do with McCain). I'm a realist, I know that Romney has positions that would have grinded my gears, but as I said, compared to Obama, Romney is Ronald Reagan, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln rolled into one man.


Sure, but you're just arguing a different form of 'Romney was right'.

Elections are about media propaganda being controlled to produce the result our masters desire, nothing more...

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Romney would have been such an upgrade over Obama it's hard to put into words. However, I question Romney's fire. I think he felt compelled to run, but he didn't have the desire to be president one would expect from a candidate. It could be argued that too much of a desire to attain office is a bad thing too, so on this point, I would give ground. Romney's second problem is that in the American Idol culture we now have, Romney is a Republican loser. I'm not sure that can be overcome.

I like Romney, I think he's a good man. I tried to convince anyone who would listen to vote for Romney, (something I didn't do with McCain). I'm a realist, I know that Romney has positions that would have grinded my gears, but as I said, compared to Obama, Romney is Ronald Reagan, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln rolled into one man.

Well said.
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Romney would have been such an upgrade over Obama it's hard to put into words. However, I question Romney's fire. I think he felt compelled to run, but he didn't have the desire to be president one would expect from a candidate. It could be argued that too much of a desire to attain office is a bad thing too, so on this point, I would give ground. Romney's second problem is that in the American Idol culture we now have, Romney is a Republican loser. I'm not sure that can be overcome.

I like Romney, I think he's a good man. I tried to convince anyone who would listen to vote for Romney, (something I didn't do with McCain). I'm a realist, I know that Romney has positions that would have grinded my gears, but as I said, compared to Obama, Romney is Ronald Reagan, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln rolled into one man.

Well said.


I second that.

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Sure, but you're just arguing a different form of 'Romney was right'.

Elections are about media propaganda being controlled to produce the result our masters desire, nothing more...

List of "our masters' names?
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I don't see anyone in the Republican bullpen who can top Romney's experience as a manager (or hard worker) -- and heaven knows we need one in the oval office now more than ever.

There are other potential candidates whose political philosophy is more in line with mine. But the last 5-1/2 years suffering a lazy, incompetent president should scare us all into choosing a candidate with a proven track record behind him, not just lofty rhetoric. In other words: no 1-term senators.
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But the last 5-1/2 years suffering a lazy, incompetent president should scare us all into choosing a candidate with a proven track record behind him...

It won't.  The media will deliver the appropriate propaganda and the chosen one will be elected.

Somehow people need to be disabused of the notion that 'the right thing' will eventually happen if we only try harder...


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I don't see anyone in the Republican bullpen who can top Romney's experience as a manager (or hard worker) -- and heaven knows we need one in the oval office now more than ever.

There are other potential candidates whose political philosophy is more in line with mine. But the last 5-1/2 years suffering a lazy, incompetent president should scare us all into choosing a candidate with a proven track record behind him, not just lofty rhetoric. In other words: no 1-term senators.
How about 1/2 term governors?
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Romney would have been such an upgrade over Obama it's hard to put into words. However, I question Romney's fire. I think he felt compelled to run, but he didn't have the desire to be president one would expect from a candidate. It could be argued that too much of a desire to attain office is a bad thing too, so on this point, I would give ground. Romney's second problem is that in the American Idol culture we now have, Romney is a Republican loser. I'm not sure that can be overcome.

I like Romney, I think he's a good man. I tried to convince anyone who would listen to vote for Romney, (something I didn't do with McCain). I'm a realist, I know that Romney has positions that would have grinded my gears, but as I said, compared to Obama, Romney is Ronald Reagan, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln rolled into one man.

Yes.  Well said. 

During the primaries, I had a difficult time coming around to Romney.  But, I did.  I remember aligncare steadfastly trying to convince us (me) about Romney.  Indeed, I came to know him as a good man.  In fact, I came to feel he was the right man.  That, despite the fact I knew he would "grind my gears" from time to time.
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How about 1/2 term governors?

Absolutely a non-starter.  The unequivocal, quintessential non-starter.
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Absolutely a non-starter.  The unequivocal, quintessential non-starter.
Not even a gorgeous, edgy, ambitious one? A follower of the Pat Buchanan career path paradigm?

"It is about principle." The principle is standing to reap a lifelong reward, played wisely.

How about a Senator that loses their own state, like Santorum?

I'd like to see a movement telling those types to STFU and stay out period.
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I could definitely support a Romney campaign in 2016. The way I thought of him in 2012 was as "quiet competence". He's not too good at theatrics, but he did well in business, as Governor of MA (a GOPer in a deep blue state), and he managed to bail out the Salt Lake Olympics. All very challenging jobs.
And it helps that so much of what he said in 2012 was accurate, even though he was sniffed at for his opinions.

But too many American voters use the same criteria for presidential candidates that they do for Miss America or American Idol. My choices for those contests never do too well, either.  **nononono*

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I like Romney. He is a good man. He shot for the moon twice and missed, but I want to see him in the next cabinet.
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As much I liked Romney in 08 and 12, I want someone new in 16.
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[[ Mitt Romney was right about everything in 2012. So why not Romney 2016? ]]

Because Mitt Romney won't be running against Obama in 2016.

He'll be back running against himself, just like last time...


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