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Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« on: July 24, 2014, 09:47:59 AM »

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Re: Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 10:13:10 AM »
/snicker

Foreign invasions do not encompass illegal immigration.

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Re: Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 04:05:45 PM »
Wow Ken Allard..............................where has he been hidding? Haven't heard that name in years.


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Re: Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 04:21:01 PM »
Oceander wrote above:
[[ Foreign invasions do not encompass illegal immigration. ]]

That's your opinion.

30+/- million illegals surging across the southern border in the last twenty or so years does constitue an "invasion" in my book.

And I believe --- no, I'll go further, I'll bet --- that it does as well with the vast majority of Euro-Americans.

I suggest a poll of GOPBriefers -- wondering if the other members of this forum concur...

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Re: Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2014, 09:11:21 AM »
Wow Ken Allard..............................where has he been hidding? Haven't heard that name in years.

That's the former Colorado Senator, right?
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2014, 11:24:30 AM »
That's the former Colorado Senator, right?
I don't think so. Retired military. Used to be a talking head on FOX all the time.


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Re: Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2014, 12:34:53 PM »
I don't think so. Retired military. Used to be a talking head on FOX all the time.

Right.  Wayne Allard was Senate from Colorado. 
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Ken Allard: A remedial lesson in why borders matter
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2014, 03:22:49 PM »
/snicker

Foreign invasions do not encompass illegal immigration.
I was living in California before the 1986 Reagan granted amnesty, and was hot as hell about it. Why were we doing this?

Decades of maturity, inform me the situation in border states dates back a very long time. In California we had season farm workers. Sometimes they brought their families, and didn't go home. And we accepted these people, giving family members employment outside agriculture. Bus and wash the dishes, clean the hotel rooms, empty the hospital filth.

People my age in California that were raised here, probably had school mates that came from such families. I think I had classmates born in California, to illegal immigrant parents. Those classmates are now grandparents to people that have intermarried with non-Hispanics to a great degree.

So although 38.2% of California residents identify as "Hispanic" even more have Hispanics in their families.

So when Chris Simcox and Jim Gilchrest form "Minutemen" and go to the border, some calm headed people worry a bit where they will take the reputation of "conservatism."

They in turn attracted Shawna Forde who is on death row in Arizona, convicted of murdering two native born American citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Simcox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gilchrist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawna_Forde

I have a cousin by marriage, with an Hispanic surname, who stated to me he votes GOP, but is upset whenever a "conservative" weighs in wondering if Hispanic surnamed individuals are perhaps illegal immigrants. He traces his family and name to north-central California, early 1800s, when California was a colony of Spain. That is longer than some of my ancestors, and longer than all of my wife's ancestors have been here.

He happens to be a vocal opponent of illegal immigration, by the way.

The GOP has a lot to potentially gain, with leaders like Cruz, Rubio, Martinez, Sandoval and others. The majority of Hispanics I have known are NOT multi-generational basket cases like so many blacks.

They were not brought here, they came here, most to work. And work they do. And we will never deport them.

We need to grant permanent legal residence to some, citizenship to some, and deport some. The big problems is we have failed since 1986 to deal with the situation.

Each party blames the other. And too many vilify the immigrant, who is doing what people have done since the beginning of time; move to better prospects.




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