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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2014, 04:11:28 pm »
Dana Loesch ‏@DLoesch 1m

Obama blames Russian for supporting separatists, controlling separatists, funding them, but won't link Russia directly to plane.
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2014, 04:12:46 pm »
Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller 15s

Obama: “It is not possible for these separatists to function the way they are functioning” without Russian help

Fact is, there are plenty of Buk missile-launchers controlled by the Ukrainians in the area.

It's not as tightly-controlled by separatists as people want everyone to think.  The transport plane the separatists thought was shot down was re-supplying Ukrainian military units that are cut-off and isolated.





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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2014, 04:12:55 pm »
Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 42s

Obama: I don't want to say with absolute certainty there might not be additional Americans



Andrea Mitchell ‏@mitchellreports 15s

Obama says to best of their knowledge only one American after checking passports altho that could change
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2014, 04:19:07 pm »
Neil King ‏@NKingofDC 16m

Samantha Powers at the U.N. reflected more outrage over the jet attack than Obama has now.
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2014, 04:19:48 pm »
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What an embarrassing, humiliating joke this president is... Putin must be dying of laughter..
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2014, 04:20:58 pm »
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Pres Obama says US confident a surface-to-air missile was used to shoot down MH17 -but too soon to say if it was deliberately targeted.
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2014, 04:29:39 pm »
Oh rats and dog pooh, I missed him talking today. Just rat farts, how will I make it thru the rest of the day without his leadership on this!    :whistle:


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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2014, 04:47:00 pm »
Breaking! Obama orders hashtag attacks!
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2014, 06:08:38 pm »
Both Pres. Obama and members of his administration, will be closely watching the TV news, to learn stuff about the incident.

And at the right time, will have the whole, definitive propaganda, to be used with Obama's convincing, authoritative booming voice.

And some will believe he know what he is doing, since his handlers will have scripted his performance.
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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2014, 06:23:11 pm »
Fact is, there are plenty of Buk missile-launchers controlled by the Ukrainians in the area.

It's not as tightly-controlled by separatists as people want everyone to think.  The transport plane the separatists thought was shot down was re-supplying Ukrainian military units that are cut-off and isolated.

And this is not a Hamas style artillery rocket that you can light the fuse and run.  These are sophisticated guided missiles that require a fire control system to direct them to their target.  The ground radar systems for these missiles are exactly why we developed HARM or High Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles decades ago.  Aircraft carrier based aircraft have the ability to hunt and kill these weapons actively....such missions were called "Wild Weasel" runs because they required high speed, low level runs to draw targeting radar, and once they painted you, you popped up and shot a missile at them that can remember where the target is even when they shut the radar down, and kill it every time.

The way to have prevented this was to become engaged in the area and not let things spiral so far out of control in the first place.  As I said earlier, Aegis is perfectly capable of shooting down an SA-11 and had one been on duty in the Black Sea they would easily have been in place to intercept that missile shortly after it lifted off. 

Prevention always requires direct action.  Reaction is always far too late.  Bold Leadership from a US President with big brass balls is what incidents like this have received in the past, and those days are long gone under Obama.



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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2014, 06:50:37 pm »
Breaking! Obama orders hashtag attacks!



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Re: Obama to speak on Ukraine crisis
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2014, 07:08:01 pm »

The way to have prevented this was to become engaged in the area and not let things spiral so far out of control in the first place.


I'm thinking the whole incident is designed to get us engaged in the area because the separatists were winning the fight.

The U.S. needs an excuse to support the pro-western gov't that we installed and... lo and behold there it is!


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