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Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« on: July 17, 2014, 11:30:16 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?sr=fb071714flightcrash1130adevelopingstorystatus

Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
By Jason Hanna, CNN
updated 11:24 AM EDT, Thu July 17, 2014
(CNN) -- A Malaysia Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has crashed in eastern Ukraine, Russian news agency Interfax reported Thursday.

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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 11:33:40 AM »
Gee wiz, not a good year for Malaysian air. Most likely not a accident. Yes I know it is to soon.
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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 11:36:42 AM »
Breaking News: Malaysia Airlines, Ministry of Transport say they have no information about any airliner that may have crashed

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/17/us-ukraine-crash-airplane-idUSKBN0FM1TU20140717


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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 11:38:50 AM »
Gee wiz, not a good year for Malaysian air. Most likely not a accident. Yes I know it is to soon.

Too soon, yes.....but there are a lot of reasons to be suspicious....


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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 11:59:58 AM »
BREAKING NEWS: Malaysian passenger plane carrying 295 people 'shot down' over Ukraine near Russian border

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696161/BREAKING-NEWS-Malaysian-passenger-plane-carrying-295-people-crashes-Ukraine-near-Russian-border.html

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A Malaysian Airlines passenger plane has reportedly been shot down on the Russian-Ukraine border, apparently killing all 295 people on board.

Flight MH17, which was carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew, was flying between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpar after taking off leaving at lunchtime today.

The Interfax news agency reported that the aircraft went missing near Donetsk, where pro-Russian rebels have been fighting Ukrainian government forces for several weeks.

TV pictures from the scene showed a pall of smoke billowing into the sky apparently from the stricken aircraft.

It is believed the plane was struck by BUK surface-to-air missile at 33,000ft around 20 miles before entering Russian airspace.


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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 12:21:17 PM »
http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/malaysian-plane-shot-down-with-295-on-board


Malaysian Plane 'Shot Down With 295 On Board'
A Boeing 777 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur comes down in Ukraine after reportedly being hit by a ground-to-air missile.

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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 12:44:05 PM »
No kidding - the very first words out of the mouth of a liberal co-worker when I read to him the headline of it being shot down - "Did Israel shoot it down?”  Wow are the brain-washed masses stuck on stupid. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2014, 12:46:39 PM »
No kidding - the very first words out of the mouth of a liberal co-worker when I read to him the headline of it being shot down - "Did Israel shoot it down?”  Wow are the brain-washed masses stuck on stupid.
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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 12:59:22 PM »
Who stands to gain from this?  Is this subterfuge to deflect blame to someone else?  What would be gained by shooting a commercial Malaysian flight down?  The conflict in Ukraine is seemingly unconnected - but yet, this is where it happened.  I just heard Rush play a clip of Geraldo Rivera blaming Putin for it. 
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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 01:05:26 PM »
Has the White House issued a statement yet to the effect that Obama is concerned and is being kept advised of developments (en route to his fundraisers)?

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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2014, 01:13:14 PM »
Limbaugh just said he is being asked if Obama apologized to Putin for the shootdown yet, and has no idea if he has or not......

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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2014, 01:18:52 PM »
Who stands to gain from this?  Is this subterfuge to deflect blame to someone else?  What would be gained by shooting a commercial Malaysian flight down?  The conflict in Ukraine is seemingly unconnected - but yet, this is where it happened.  I just heard Rush play a clip of Geraldo Rivera blaming Putin for it.

Most likely this is a case of itchy trigger finger.  If this was a BUK surface to air missile, thousands of these self-propelled units were built by the Soviets and widely distributed all over Eastern Europe.  Could have been someone on either side deliberately trying to provoke a serious incident, or typical Russian military incompetence.  To answer your question, nobody stands to gain anything from an act like this, and it could very well prove to be the spark some group needed to justify another event that is yet to come.

Incidents like this have been the spark that set of a wider regional war all through history.  Too many examples exist to list them.


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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2014, 01:29:06 PM »
Incidents like this have been the spark that set of a wider regional war all through history.  Too many examples exist to list them.

It can be said WWI started with a single shot from a .32 ACP.   How much more can it take to start Armageddon?
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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2014, 01:49:34 PM »
WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES -- First Ground Pictures Of Boeing 777 With Flight Number MH17...

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/warning-graphic-images-first-ground-pictures-of-boeing-777-with-flight-number-mh17

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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2014, 01:52:45 PM »

Obviously being used to demonize Russians and Russian separatists.

Best reason to think they didn't do it...

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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2014, 01:55:03 PM »
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/212569-obama-putin-discussed-downed-plane

Obama, Putin discussed downed plane

By Justin Sink - 07/17/14 01:27 PM EDT

President Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed reports that a Malaysian Airlines plane was downed near the Russia-Ukraine border, the White House and Kremlin said on Thursday.

Press secretary Josh Earnest said the conversation occurred near the end of the call, requested by Moscow.

The Kremlin said Putin "informed the U.S. president of the report from air traffic controllers that the Malaysian plane had crashed on Ukrainian territory, which had arrived immediately before the phone call" in a statement posted to its website.
The conversation between the world leaders came on the heels of a new round of economic sanctions announced by Obama on Wednesday, intended to punish Russia for its support of separatists in the Eastern region of Ukraine where the jet appears to have crashed.

The sanctions target two of Russia's biggest financial institutions, eight Russian arms firms and a shipping company that operates in the region. Four additional Russian government officials were also subject to the additional penalties.

Earnest described the discussion between Obama and Putin as "an opportunity for the president to make clear once again the important principles at stake here."

"The United States is committed to ensuring that this international norm of countries respecting the territorial integrity of other countries is prioritized," Earnest said. "The president's made clear that the international community, the United States and our European allies are willing to take steps and impose economic costs on Russia if they decline to respect those basic norms."

The White House spokesman described the conversation as "a candid exchange of views."

The Kremlin said Putin and Obama discussed the crisis in Ukraine "in detail" and that the Russian leader called for an end of hostilities from both the Ukrainian military and the pro-Russian separatists.

Putin also "expressed serious disappointment" with the U.S. decision to impose sanctions against Russian companies, saying they damaged bilateral relations "as well as efforts to find a compromise to resolve the Ukrainian crisis."

Separately, the White House said Obama had been briefed on reports of the plane crash and directed his team to be in close contact with senior Ukrainian officials on the matter.

"The president has asked to be updated over the course of the day," Earnest said.




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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2014, 02:01:26 PM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-ukraine-crash-passenger-3875681
Malaysia Airlines Ukraine crash: Passenger who joked on Facebook before boarding jet now feared dead


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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2014, 02:16:45 PM »
It can be said WWI started with a single shot from a .32 ACP.   How much more can it take to start Armageddon?

Exactly.  This is extremely serious.


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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2014, 02:31:07 PM »
State Dept says *‘Highly Inappropriate’*

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/17/what-happened-at-the-state-dept-briefing-after-the-plane-crash-in-ukraine-had-shepherd-smith-disgustedly-calling-it-highly-inappropriate/

What Happened at the State Dep’t Briefing After the Plane Crash in Ukraine Had Shepard Smith Disgustedly Calling It ‘Highly Inappropriate’

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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2014, 02:32:51 PM »
Who benefits???

From shooting down a commercial flight--nobody.

From shooting down a plane they thought was military---insert your guess here________.
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2014, 02:36:57 PM »
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Re: Report: Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2014, 02:46:47 PM »
Who benefits???

From shooting down a commercial flight--nobody.

From shooting down a plane they thought was military---insert your guess here________.

Sure they do.  The bankster-supported Ukraine 'govt' benefits if the world thinks the Russkies/separatists did it.

Buying in to any part of the argument including 'a plane 'they' thought was military' is just the first step down the rabbit-hole.

C'mon dude.  Haven't you been lied to enough in your lifetime to question any 'official' version, including the whole 'east vs west' meme?

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