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Offline rangerrebew

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« on: July 14, 2014, 07:10:02 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 09:01:11 AM »
cut off all aid to these countries 

and string 500.000.000 of these up and down the US Mexican boarder
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 07:35:01 PM »
Blowing up kids with landmines is what FReakRepublic has been wanting to do for 15 years.

Let's leave such suggestions to them.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 09:28:01 PM »
Wouldn't something like this be a better choice?



We've put men on the moon.
We can build something as simple and effective as a fence-based barrier.

This is the ONLY thing, short of war with Central America and Mexico, that will stop this invasion...

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 11:13:33 PM »
If people are proposing land minds - a damned stupid idea - why not go the whole hog?



Oh, yeah - they are banned under international law.

You need the active/passive mix. That means boots on the ground to react, sensors and physical barriers.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 12:25:32 AM »
EC wrote above:
[[ You need the active/passive mix. That means boots on the ground to react, sensors and physical barriers. ]]

Exactly.

Like it or not, the Israelis and the Stasi have (had) it right.

The walls they built -worked-.

There is a flood south of the USA, just pushing against the southern border, as surely as the sea pushes against the dikes of The Netherlands.

We have but two choices:
1. Wall out the flood, or...
2. Be inundated.

I choose option #1...

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 12:41:34 AM »
I too prefer option 1.

Not completely walling them out - there needs to be fewer hoops to jump through to be a legal immigrant as part of the package. After all, the USA didn't go from a sprawling yet third rate power to the premier power on the planet within 70 years without attracting the best and the brightest.

Immigrants - the ones who are willing to dump everything and start over in a strange place - tend to be the best of the best. Those are people you not only want, but need.

So do it properly. Enforce the existing laws, including the ones that permit prosecutions and jail time for those hiring illegals. Close the border - that is a fairly none trivial task, but you have thousands of service men and women who are wanting to make their 20. Move Fort Bragg to the border (pick your own base, but Bragg is the one I know and bloody huge - you could make 12 sub bases along the border with that one alone).

Then examine the legal BS that has crept in to legal immigration since the days of Ellis Island.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 12:48:07 AM »
To further reinforce what I posted above:
"Endless wave of illegal immigrants floods Rio Grande valley"
URL:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/14/night-time-on-border-endless-wave-illegal-immigrants-floods-rio-grande-valley/

There's only one way to stop this.
Everyone knows by now what that is.
Why won't they speak such things publicly?


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