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« on: July 13, 2014, 10:34:20 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 11:14:51 AM »
just like a kennedy

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2014, 12:08:52 PM »
Shocking.  :smokin:


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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2014, 12:47:46 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2014, 02:22:43 PM »
The Kennedys are ugly, ugly people.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2014, 02:43:09 PM »
The Kennedys are ugly, ugly people.

Inside and out.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2014, 03:21:14 PM »
Inside and out.

More inside, methinks.....
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 06:08:50 PM »
Every family has it's own little traditions.  :whistle:
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 09:14:10 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 10:15:02 AM »
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 11:50:16 AM »
The tired old leftist meme "It doesn't hurt anybody" is a pile of garbage.

Since the sixties, the "if it feels good, do it" has not hurt only those who live by those cheap standards of behavior, but it has taken down society as a whole.

The left wants us to be more like Europe, and the Kennedys have led the way.

And what we have now is perhaps beyond repair.....    **nononono*

This is an Americanism I have a lot of trouble with. It's just a whole different way of thinking - I wrote about it in http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,142294.0.html

Where is the harm? As long as your wife or husband understands, knows, and approves - it's simply a none issue.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 12:03:30 PM »
This is an Americanism I have a lot of trouble with. It's just a whole different way of thinking - I wrote about it in http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,142294.0.html

Where is the harm? As long as your wife or husband understands, knows, and approves - it's simply a none issue.

Agreed, EC.  I believe even in Great Britain, it's common for an "established" gentleman to have a mistress on the side.

But that said....eventually...and sixty years old sounds reasonable, sowing wild oats doesn't seem interesting. 

Maybe the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore for RFK, Jr.?   He's just looking for somebody with whom to settle down.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 12:07:42 PM »
This is an Americanism I have a lot of trouble with. It's just a whole different way of thinking - I wrote about it in http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,142294.0.html

Where is the harm? As long as your wife or husband understands, knows, and approves - it's simply a none issue.

The harm is that the whole culture has descended into indecency.
The harm is that children emulate adults and behave in ways that harm them for the rest of their lives.
The harm is that family units are destroyed, and the backbone of culture weakened.
The harm is that, in spite of the fact that many say they "approve" they are in truth deeply hurt.
The harm is in the spread of disease and destruction because of uncontrolled behavior.
The harm is that a person who cannot honor a commitment as basic and deep as a marriage vow is not likely to honor any commitment.

Perhaps you consider it an "Americanism" because you don't come from a country where basic moral behavior was once expected, and cheating on a spouse not approved until the left "liberated" us in the 1960's and our basic decency, honor and commitment was lost.

For me, it is well beyond an "Americanism."  It is a value system that uplifts an entire culture and keeps us strong.

And we have lost it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2014, 12:09:35 PM »
Agreed, EC.  I believe even in Great Britain, it's common for an "established" gentleman to have a mistress on the side.
But that said....eventually...and sixty years old sounds reasonable, sowing wild oats doesn't seem interesting. 

Maybe the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore for RFK, Jr.?   He's just looking for somebody with whom to settle down.

Kinda misogynistic, isn't it?    Is it historically 'common' for a woman to have someone on the side?

I think not.  :smokin:
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2014, 12:19:10 PM »
Considering marital infidelity seems to be a Kennedy tradition (probably before Joseph Sr., but we can start there), it's a shame that disregard for the teachings of their church and disrespect for one's spouse are the lessons they've taught their children, grandchildren, etc., by example.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2014, 12:21:06 PM »
The harm is that the whole culture has descended into indecency.
The harm is that children emulate adults and behave in ways that harm them for the rest of their lives.
The harm is that family units are destroyed, and the backbone of culture weakened.
The harm is that, in spite of the fact that many say they "approve" they are in truth deeply hurt.
The harm is in the spread of disease and destruction because of uncontrolled behavior.
The harm is that a person who cannot honor a commitment as basic and deep as a marriage vow is not likely to honor any commitment.

Perhaps you consider it an "Americanism" because you don't come from a country where basic moral behavior was once expected, and cheating on a spouse not approved until the left "liberated" us in the 1960's and our basic decency, honor and commitment was lost.

For me, it is well beyond an "Americanism."  It is a value system that uplifts an entire culture and keeps us strong.

And we have lost it.


that's putting way too much weight on such a slender reed.  The same can be said of those who get divorced; e.g., being unable to "honor a commitment as basic and deep as a marriage vow".  Should we reject all politicians who've been divorced?

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2014, 12:31:57 PM »
Agreed, EC.  I believe even in Great Britain, it's common for an "established" gentleman to have a mistress on the side.

But that said....eventually...and sixty years old sounds reasonable, sowing wild oats doesn't seem interesting. 

Maybe the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore for RFK, Jr.?   He's just looking for somebody with whom to settle down.

It's not as common here as it is in France, Spain, Germany, or Italy, but it is far from unknown. I'd go off on active, knowing damned well that my wife may play around a bit. She had my blessing, as long as she told me. She knew I would too and the same conditions applied. Minimal stress.
Both of my father in law's (Italian) mistresses attended his funeral - with their husbands - and sat in the front row. It is really a total none event. If you are not hurting someone, does it matter who you spend some time with?
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2014, 02:06:05 PM »

that's putting way too much weight on such a slender reed.  The same can be said of those who get divorced; e.g., being unable to "honor a commitment as basic and deep as a marriage vow".  Should we reject all politicians who've been divorced?

Who said anything about rejecting all politicians?  And what does divorce have to do with it?  Are you trying to pick another fight with me, Oceander?

The Kennedy men are misogynistic scum, and it hurts everyone around them.........not to mention the many women they've abused over the last century.

Their serial infidelity is a direct reflection on their complete lack of character.

And yes.  That matters.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2014, 02:11:55 PM »
Considering marital infidelity seems to be a Kennedy tradition (probably before Joseph Sr., but we can start there), it's a shame that disregard for the teachings of their church and disrespect for one's spouse are the lessons they've taught their children, grandchildren, etc., by example.

As to their Church, they've gotten away with it. Ever hear of a Kennedy being excommunicated? As for the rest, the only thing the Kennedys have done is marginally improve marksmanship.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2014, 03:16:14 PM »
Are they still looking for the other book? :whistle:
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2014, 04:37:18 PM »
The left wants us to be more like Europe

Indeed; most on the left are envious of the way countries in Europe operate. They wish to emulate the Scandinavian countries in particular.
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2014, 06:12:52 PM »
Indeed; most on the left are envious of the way countries in Europe operate. They wish to emulate the Scandinavian countries in particular.

Again.........thanks for offering a good socialist's perspective, Dex.

(Speaking as a Scandinavian who's extremely thankful that her grandparents emigrated to a FREE country, and not wanting it to return to the soft tyranny from whence they came).
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2014, 06:14:20 PM »
Again.........thanks for offering a good socialist's perspective, Dex.

(Speaking as a Scandinavian who's extremely thankful that her grandparents emigrated to a FREE country, and not wanting it to return to the soft tyranny from whence they came).

I'd say I was less offering a socialist perspective and more expanding on your perspective.
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2014, 06:43:41 PM »
I'd say I was less offering a socialist perspective and more expanding on your perspective.

Gee thanks.

I've never thought about this before, so I appreciate your help.
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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2014, 06:49:13 PM »
Gee thanks.

I've never thought about this before, so I appreciate your help.

We haven't managed to agree on much so far, but nevertheless your presence and contributions always manage to make me smile.  ^-^
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