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Online rangerrebew

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« on: July 12, 2014, 07:40:09 AM »
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 08:34:09 AM »
But they're still an oppressed minority that deserves the full protection of the left.

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 08:48:00 AM »
Abu Mohammad al-Maqdisi:

After my release from prison I also reviewed some of the abuses and depravities by some men who do not deserve to be described as jihadists or men of religion. It would be fitting to describe them rather as street people.

Read those words. Take them in. This from an AQ saint ( I know they don't have saints, but he's close.)


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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 08:51:08 AM »
Abu Mohammad al-Maqdisi:

After my release from prison I also reviewed some of the abuses and depravities by some men who do not deserve to be described as jihadists or men of religion. It would be fitting to describe them rather as street people.

Read those words. Take them in. This from an AQ saint ( I know they don't have saints, but he's close.)




so what is he doing about it?  or is he just pontificating for the sake of hearing himself speak?

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 08:58:49 AM »
But they're still an oppressed minority that deserves the full protection of the left.

Yet, who can forget the horror from the left when a few of them had panties put on their heads at Abu Ghraib??   **nononono*
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 09:10:02 AM »
so what is he doing about it?  or is he just pontificating for the sake of hearing himself speak?

He is laying down the law in no uncertain terms. Basically, any AQ affiliated fighter just got told off by the nearest thing they have to the pope, speaking ex cathedra. Any one doing this has just been excommunicated, and it matters not how nobly they die for the cause, they are going to Hell.

It's hard to do an equivalence with two completely different mind sets - so the analogy is rough as hell. It's close though.

Islam has a lot in common with Judaism - far more than it does with Christianity, which I assume you are more familiar with. The interpreters of the law are hugely respected, way beyond pastors and priests. Think Bishop or higher in your preferred denomination. For a philosophical guide to AQ to state this is huge.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2014, 10:02:21 AM »
Pray into one hand and sh*t into the other and tell me which fills up first.  Martyrdom is a dead end.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2014, 09:55:47 PM »
Oceander wrote above:
[[ But they're still an oppressed minority that deserves the full protection of the left. ]]

They're killing Christians over there right now because they can and they have the strength of numbers with which to do so.

If we continue to allow muslims to increase their numbers and gain power in The West, it's only a matter of time before they start doing the same things here. (Aside, actually they already -are- doing such things here, just not in "large scale" as of yet.)

Your comments above are appropriate. Yet, if I go, and state that the danger of islam has the potential to become such an existential threat to Western Civilization in general and the United States in particular that we should re-write the First Amendment to specifically exclude "the followers of muhammed" from its protections, you'll back away in horror.

Why is that?
Why should we provide islam with the intellectual, religious and legal freedoms which it will someday use to destroy us?

It's not only "the left" that is protecting islam from its jihad here.
It is ALL of us...
« Last Edit: July 13, 2014, 10:03:00 AM by Fishrrman »


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