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Offline rangerrebew

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« on: July 05, 2014, 08:08:26 AM »
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2014, 08:14:19 AM »


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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2014, 12:30:30 PM »
He had a plan? News to me.

The reported plan stinks on ice. It's fine if you want to have a century long war and millions of displaced people, not much good for anything else.

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2014, 02:11:06 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2014, 02:24:01 PM »
It appears that American clandestine security and analysis have been lousy over the years.

--Failed to see economic collapse of USSR

--Failed with Iraq 1992, insofar as Saddam thought he had an okay

--Failed to identify and prevent 9/11/2001

--Failed to preserve evidence of WMD Iraq 2003

--Failed to adequately advise high level authorities about futility of spending money "training" local forces

--ad infinitum
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2014, 03:11:39 PM »
Without going into specifics - reports and threat assessments are only useful if they are read. Or in the Worm's case, listened to, I am not convinced the famed Constitutional scholar can read.
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