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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 06:16:15 PM »
There was a time in this Country where no Federal employee would dare deny a member of Congress access like this, much less tell him to make an appointment.

The only reason this goes on is because it is tolerated.

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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 08:20:57 PM »
I suggest that Representative Bridenstine return to the base tomorrow -- accompanied by the county sheriff, a contingent of the Oklahoma State police, a squad of the Oklahoma National Guard, and the GOVERNOR of Oklahoma, and then request entry.

Or else the security people would be disarmed, arrested, and removed from the premises.

Folks, it's up to the states now.
Their intervention, even if in conflict with the federals, is the only solution that will stem this tide...
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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 08:57:32 PM »
This is getting creepy.
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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 09:04:50 PM »
I suggest that Representative Bridenstine return to the base tomorrow -- accompanied by the county sheriff, a contingent of the Oklahoma State police, a squad of the Oklahoma National Guard, and the GOVERNOR of Oklahoma, and then request entry.

Or else the security people would be disarmed, arrested, and removed from the premises.

Folks, it's up to the states now.
Their intervention, even if in conflict with the federals, is the only solution that will stem this tide...

That's one hell of an idea.  It would be nice to see just one Congress Critter let 'em drop and take a contingent just like this along with a news crew.  Given Obama's penchant for over-reaching, there's just no telling what they are hiding in there.  Conditions in these facilities could deteriorate so fast that we could have a whole bunch of dead kids on our hands, and soon.


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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 09:06:21 PM »
I suggest that Representative Bridenstine return to the base tomorrow -- accompanied by the county sheriff, a contingent of the Oklahoma State police, a squad of the Oklahoma National Guard, and the GOVERNOR of Oklahoma, and then request entry.

Or else the security people would be disarmed, arrested, and removed from the premises.

Folks, it's up to the states now.
Their intervention, even if in conflict with the federals, is the only solution that will stem this tide...
ditto to what you said
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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 09:39:06 PM »
I suggest that Representative Bridenstine return to the base tomorrow -- accompanied by the county sheriff, a contingent of the Oklahoma State police, a squad of the Oklahoma National Guard, and the GOVERNOR of Oklahoma, and then request entry.

Or else the security people would be disarmed, arrested, and removed from the premises.

Folks, it's up to the states now.
Their intervention, even if in conflict with the federals, is the only solution that will stem this tide...

Hmmm, wasn't there something in that pesky little piece of paper, the Constitution, about the supremacy of federal law?  But why let some ugly little technicality in the Constitution stop a good mob?

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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 09:44:42 PM »
Hmmm, wasn't there something in that pesky little piece of paper, the Constitution, about the supremacy of federal law?  But why let some ugly little technicality in the Constitution stop a good mob?

What are they hiding?  Don't you wonder why they won't allow a US Congressman to visit a facility in his district?

And why, in Austin, nurses and doctors are threatened with ARREST if they talk to the press?

To hell with that.  Make some noise.  This secrecy is nonsense.
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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 09:53:05 PM »
What are they hiding?  Don't you wonder why they won't allow a US Congressman to visit a facility in his district?

And why, in Austin, nurses and doctors are threatened with ARREST if they talk to the press?

To hell with that.  Make some noise.  This secrecy is nonsense.

I'm not saying that what the guards at the center did is right; I think it's wrong and that the Congressman should come back tomorrow with a federal court order and a phalanx of US Marshals.  Coming back with a bunch of state officials is stupid.

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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2014, 10:03:43 PM »
Have conservatives agreed with liberals that we are no longer a country with laws? And all we're arguing about is who has the bigger mob?
The state and local gov'ts have no jurisdiction over a fed'l facility. If those officials show up and make demands, they're no different than any other mob. Where are the people who want to make and enforce laws these days?
(And I already know that none of them are in the WH or their admin.)

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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2014, 10:06:09 PM »
Oceander wrote above:
[[ Hmmm, wasn't there something in that pesky little piece of paper, the Constitution, about the supremacy of federal law?  But why let some ugly little technicality in the Constitution stop a good mob? ]]

Point well taken.

But -- what recourse is left, when the "administration" that is charged with enforcing that "pesky little piece of paper", is -also- a mob? And a mob that seems to be dedicated to undermining what is written on that paper ??

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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2014, 11:08:09 PM »
Have conservatives agreed with liberals that we are no longer a country with laws? And all we're arguing about is who has the bigger mob?
The state and local gov'ts have no jurisdiction over a fed'l facility. If those officials show up and make demands, they're no different than any other mob. Where are the people who want to make and enforce laws these days?
(And I already know that none of them are in the WH or their admin.)

I thought a US Congressman was a federal employee.  WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?????
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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2014, 11:26:38 PM »

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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
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Re: U.S. Congressman Blocked From Entering Child Immigrant Facility
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2014, 12:07:43 AM »
In what way?  Congress has the power to investigate and the power to order the executive branch via legislation.

Yes, Congress has the power to investigate the executive branch and to make legislation governing what they can do, but individual members of the legislative branch do not have the right to give orders to employees of the executive branch. They could call them to the Hill for hearings by a committee, but that's not the same as giving them orders in the workplace.


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