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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 09:59:54 AM »
Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 4m

Prochoice chant right now at SupCt - "keep your rosaries off my ovaries"

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 10:04:03 AM »
Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 4m

Prochoice chant right now at SupCt - "keep your rosaries off my ovaries"

At this point that's nothing more then rhetorical nonsense; the Supreme Court would no more listen to chants like that then they would listen to Obuttocks' veiled threats in the State of the Union several years ago.

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 10:04:48 AM »
 Breaking: SCOTUS limits power to compel contributions to public employee unions but does not forbid it

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 10:05:11 AM »
Hugh Hewitt ‏@hughhewitt 6s

Both decisions from Alito according to SCOTUSBlog which is very good news for @HobbyLobbyCase

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 10:05:39 AM »
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Supporters of the arts-and-crafts chain Hobby Lobby -- the business at the center of one of this session's most closely watched Supreme Court cases -- are sounding a confident tone ahead of Monday's expected decision in their case challenging ObamaCare's so-called contraception mandate.

The court meets for a final time Monday to release decisions in its two remaining cases before the justices take off for the summer.

The most contentious is that brought by Oklahoma City-based Hobby Lobby and a furniture maker in Pennsylvania. The for-profit businesses have challenged the requirement in the Affordable Care Act that employers cover contraception for women at no extra charge among a range of preventive benefits in employee health plans. It is the first major challenge to ObamaCare to come before the court since the justices upheld the law's individual requirement to buy health insurance two years ago.

Supporters of Hobby Lobby cite a few factors potentially leaning in their favor, including the tone of oral arguments in March and a unanimous decision last week finding President Obama overreached in making recess appointments to a labor board.

"Absolutely, we win -- we are very confident after oral argument in March that we will prevail in this case," Hannah Smith, senior counsel for The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which represents Hobby Lobby, told Fox News. She suggested this, too, is a case of government "overreach."

Citing recent unanimous decisions, she added: "We're hopeful we might see some unanimity here."   

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., also said he's hopeful the court will "uphold the rights of individuals for their expression of their religious freedoms."

He, too, cited the ruling Thursday that Obama "exceeded his constitutional authority" in speculating that the court might deliver another blow to the administration on Monday.

The court, though, has surprised onlookers before when it comes to ObamaCare. In the major Supreme Court challenge to the law's individual mandate two years ago, Chief Justice John Roberts cast the pivotal vote that saved the health care law in the midst of Obama's campaign for re-election.

House Democratic Caucus Chairman Xavier Becerra, D-Calif., speaking on "Fox News Sunday," predicted the Supreme Court would rule against Hobby Lobby.

"I believe that the Supreme Court will find that no business ... should be allowed to [discriminate] against women," he said. "The owner has a right to his or her religious beliefs, but that doesn't mean you get to discriminate against women if [they] have different beliefs than what the owner has."



More:  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/30/hobby-lobby-team-very-confident-ahead-supreme-court-ruling/

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 10:06:09 AM »
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The decision says that union bargaining fees cannot be imposed on employees that are not full public employees

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2014, 10:15:44 AM »
I will be very interested to read what Justice Alito has written for the Majority in both of these cases.  That he took the lead on this is a strong indication that the Constitution is still very much alive, well, and studiously defended.

It does appear that it really sucks to be the SEIU this morning......

Developing very HOT......

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 10:16:14 AM »
MSNBC says Justice Alito Wrote Hobby Lobby decision

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 10:18:19 AM »

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Breaking: SCOTUS holds govt can’t require closely held corps w/ religious owners to provide contraception coverage

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 10:18:58 AM »
Guy Benson ‏@guypbenson 39s

Boom.

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 10:20:21 AM »
Hugh Hewitt ‏@hughhewitt 8s

And religious liberty trumps. Thanks to all in the @HobbyLobbyTeam


Keith Koffler ‏@keithkoffler 36s

Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Hobby Lobby

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2014, 10:22:06 AM »

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Under the Hobby Lobby decision, the government can pay for the coverage itself so that women receive it.

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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2014, 10:22:13 AM »
5-4 in favor of Hobby Lobby with Alito writing for the Majority.

That booming noise that just swept over Washington was Obama's ass slamming shut....

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2014, 10:23:53 AM »
I'm actually surprised how it went down.
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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 10:24:20 AM »
So how long will it take for the White House to re-write Obamacare, again, to try and maneuver around this decision??


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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 10:24:49 AM »
5-4 in favor of Hobby Lobby with Alito writing for the Majority.

That booming noise that just swept over Washington was Obama's ass slamming shut....

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Interesting that this is another 5-4 decision (Harris v. Quinn, the union case released today, is also 5-4).  Goes to show that CJ Roberts is not just about consensus-building and kowtowing to the powers-that-be.

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2014, 10:24:59 AM »
Robin Abcarian ‏@robinabcarian 1m

#HobbyLobby decision is long, with three separate dissents, including a 35-page dissent by Ginsburg. I know what I'm doing this morning




Decision looks like a monster: 49 pages for the majority, four for Kennedy concurrence.

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2014, 10:25:01 AM »
I'm actually surprised how it went down.

How so?

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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2014, 10:27:16 AM »

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The Obama Administration is almost certain to provide contraception coverage to women covered by today’s decision.

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2014, 10:27:37 AM »
This applies narrowly to closely held, family owned Corporations.  It is not an overturning of the whole contraception mandate, but the Court was not asked to do that in the first place.

The Catholic Church still has their challenges to this as well, and I would look for a lawsuit to work its way up to SCOTUS, perhaps in the next term.  This Obamacare mandate battle is not over, and there will be others to come likely for years.


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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 10:28:22 AM »
I'm actually surprised how it went down.

Why?

Is there any reasonable person who doesn't believe that mandating contraception is a violation of Religious Freedom?

I guess four Supremes thought it wasn't.
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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2014, 10:29:18 AM »
SCOTUSblog @SCOTUSblog  ·  3m

The Obama Administration is almost certain to provide contraception coverage to women covered by today’s decision.

That's exactly what I mean.  That move would require re-writing the law passed by the Congress once again.  That decision is up to the Congress and I fully expect another stroke from Mr. Pen und Cellphone.....

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Re: SCOTUS Hobby Lobby Case...[update Hobby Lobby wins landmark case]
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2014, 10:29:47 AM »
This applies narrowly to closely held, family owned Corporations.  It is not an overturning of the whole contraception mandate, but the Court was not asked to do that in the first place.

The Catholic Church still has their challenges to this as well, and I would look for a lawsuit to work its way up to SCOTUS, perhaps in the next term.  This Obamacare mandate battle is not over, and there will be others to come likely for years.

Well, if closely-held non-religious corporations don't have to honor the mandate, is there any question about religious institutions?

Obama's going to lose every challenge to this mandate.
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