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The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 06:34:29 PM »
Oh my God. Are we starting this stuff up again? This place really is becomming the second coming of FreeRepublic.
 
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2014, 06:36:24 PM »
Oh my God. Are we starting this stuff up again? This place really is becomming the second coming of FreeRepublic.
 
I had to check the URL to make sure I was at the right place.

At least we allow you a debate. If we can talk about homosexual priests getting married we can have a serious topic once in a while. Its better to have a religion that believe in Christ unlike the Democrats who have no religion.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2014, 07:03:54 PM »
At least we allow you a debate. If we can talk about homosexual priests getting married we can have a serious topic once in a while. Its better to have a religion that believe in Christ unlike the Democrats who have no religion.
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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2014, 07:17:42 PM »
I already know what I believe about LDS and know where to go to find answers to any remaining questions. Not sure whether this thread has any value and thus don't plan to enter into this discussion except to ask that it remain civil and mature.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2014, 07:28:17 PM »
I already know what I believe about LDS and know where to go to find answers to any remaining questions. Not sure whether this thread has any value and thus don't plan to enter into this discussion except to ask that it remain civil and mature.

That is all I ask for is a civil discussion. Some people do not know where to go to find the answers because most of the time they have been given bad information.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2014, 07:33:18 PM »
I vote for no religion here.

Then vote to eliminate the category of religion from the board.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2014, 07:46:53 PM »
I'll see where this is going and if I see one post defaming Mormonism or any other religion it will be locked......and I agree...I may take the whole topic down..... :smokin:

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2014, 07:48:29 PM »
I vote for mutual respect and respecting the wishes of Myst and Repub.

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2014, 07:49:13 PM »
I'll see where this is going and if I see one post defaming Mormonism or any other religion it will be locked......and I agree...I may take the whole topic down..... :smokin:

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2014, 08:20:52 PM »
In the Jewish religion there are two Torahs. There is the written Torah, and what is called the 'Oral Torah'. The written Torah spell out the written laws, the oral Torah, which is based on primarily the Talmud, and in some respects Kabbalah, spells out how the laws are performed in actual life.
 
When the oral Torah is enforced for real, it is quite restrictive and harsh. And some of of the tenets condradict each other. From my own point of view, the advent of Christianity in it's inception had two major goals. One was to open God's favor up to everyone Gentile and Jew alike, not just to religious Jews. Two, was to maintain Jewish tradition, but to throw off the oral Torah and hence much of the power of the Rabbis of the time.
 
From my point of view, original Christians were intended to be Jews, just without the restrictions Jews must live by. They were supposed to be sort of half Jews, in the Jewish camp, but not really full Jews.
 
However, over the centuries Christianity developed it's own oral tradition, and things began to drift. That is why many/most Christians today recognize Saturday as the Sabbath, and yet stubbornly continue to worship on Sunday, and to call it God's day, which is the first day on any calander, not the seventh day.
 
This is part of the diversion between origin and contemporary, which I am attempting (and sadly failing) to draw out.
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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2014, 08:40:40 PM »
And now for a word of warning.

The reason I got canned over at that other site 2 years ago, is because I refused to stand by and allow the open Mormon hating that erupted over there and still goes on to this day.  It was extreme, personally nasty and not only tolerated but encouraged and protected by the staff.

I live in a community that has a large Mormon population and we have a Mormon tabernacle down the street.  These people are my friends and neighbors, and more importantly, fellow native born American citizens just like me.  Many of these people can trace their heritage directly back to the original Mormons who made the trek West on the Oregon trail.  Many have direct relatives who were born on the way.  You do not get any more American than that.

One of the founding principles of the Country is the freedom of religious choice.  We are founded to be a tolerant society that allows people the peaceful worship of their choice.  We do not have an official religion in the United States, and being a safe harbor for free religious practice is a rock bottom founding principle of the Nation.  Religious tolerance means that we do not mock the basic religious tenants of anyone's belief no matter how much you disagree with their views, or how far from your religious views they have strayed, at least in your opinion.

These kind of postings eventually generate ever increasing numbers of hostile and outright threatening comments.  There is always a tendency to play "top this" in the comments section of postings like this, and when things deteriorated at TOS to the point of openly discussion of "the Mormon question", I had enough and started striking back until I was finally banned.  I decided to go down in flames of frickin' glory over this issue and that is exactly what I did.  In fact, you can still go over there and do a keyword search on certain words and up will pop a whole bunch of Mormophobic rants with a large number of descriptive key words assigned. 

My legacy there continues, but I have no desire to do another hair-on-fire exit from the intarwebs over this subject all over again.  I advise everyone to think hard about what you want to say, and be very careful about making this subject the trend du jour here.  I ain't no Mod nor will I ever be, but that does not mean I will sit idly by and watch while a small crew takes this site down the tubes. 

I warn you now I will not tolerate it, and I will do everything I can to disrupt any Mormophobic hateful conversations that get going here at TBR.  Mods be warned, I will bitch about every single sentence and report every post until the offending thread is locked and removed.

I'm not pointing any fingers, nor am I targeting any postings in particular....at least not yet.  The guilty know who they are and will be wise to heed a presently friendly warning.  Let's just not go there.

That is all. 

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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2014, 08:43:15 PM »
And now for a word of warning.

The reason I got canned over at that other site 2 years ago, is because I refused to stand by and allow the open Mormon hating that erupted over there and still goes on to this day.  It was extreme, personally nasty and not only tolerated but encouraged and protected by the staff.

I live in a community that has a large Mormon population and we have a Mormon tabernacle down the street.  These people are my friends and neighbors, and more importantly, fellow native born American citizens just like me.  Many of these people can trace their heritage directly back to the original Mormons who made the trek West on the Oregon trail.  Many have direct relatives who were born on the way.  You do not get any more American than that.

One of the founding principles of the Country is the freedom of religious choice.  We are founded to be a tolerant society that allows people the peaceful worship of their choice.  We do not have an official religion in the United States, and being a safe harbor for free religious practice is a rock bottom founding principle of the Nation.  Religious tolerance means that we do not mock the basic religious tenants of anyone's belief no matter how much you disagree with their views, or how far from your religious views they have strayed, at least in your opinion.

These kind of postings eventually generate ever increasing numbers of hostile and outright threatening comments.  There is always a tendency to play "top this" in the comments section of postings like this, and when things deteriorated at TOS to the point of openly discussion of "the Mormon question", I had enough and started striking back until I was finally banned.  I decided to go down in flames of frickin' glory over this issue and that is exactly what I did.  In fact, you can still go over there and do a keyword search on certain words and up will pop a whole bunch of Mormophobic rants with a large number of descriptive key words assigned. 

My legacy there continues, but I have no desire to do another hair-on-fire exit from the intarwebs over this subject all over again.  I advise everyone to think hard about what you want to say, and be very careful about making this subject the trend du jour here.  I ain't no Mod nor will I ever be, but that does not mean I will sit idly by and watch while a small crew takes this site down the tubes. 

I warn you now I will not tolerate it, and I will do everything I can to disrupt any Mormophobic hateful conversations that get going here at TBR.  Mods be warned, I will bitch about every single sentence and report every post until the offending thread is locked and removed.

I'm not pointing any fingers, nor am I targeting any postings in particular....at least not yet.  The guilty know who they are and will be wise to heed a presently friendly warning.  Let's just not go there.

That is all.

Good Post. Something for everyone to think about and reminded.
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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2014, 08:48:27 PM »
Not to worry Chief...I will not allow it here.....one post like that and this whole thread gets shut down with no warning.

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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2014, 08:49:30 PM »
Not to worry Chief...I will not allow it here.....one post like that and this whole thread gets shut down with no warning.

Thanks for the backup on this Myst.  I know I'm not alone on this one.


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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2014, 09:22:35 PM »
And now for a word of warning.

The reason I got canned over at that other site 2 years ago, is because I refused to stand by and allow the open Mormon hating that erupted over there and still goes on to this day.  It was extreme, personally nasty and not only tolerated but encouraged and protected by the staff.

I live in a community that has a large Mormon population and we have a Mormon tabernacle down the street.  These people are my friends and neighbors, and more importantly, fellow native born American citizens just like me.  Many of these people can trace their heritage directly back to the original Mormons who made the trek West on the Oregon trail.  Many have direct relatives who were born on the way.  You do not get any more American than that.

One of the founding principles of the Country is the freedom of religious choice.  We are founded to be a tolerant society that allows people the peaceful worship of their choice.  We do not have an official religion in the United States, and being a safe harbor for free religious practice is a rock bottom founding principle of the Nation.  Religious tolerance means that we do not mock the basic religious tenants of anyone's belief no matter how much you disagree with their views, or how far from your religious views they have strayed, at least in your opinion.

These kind of postings eventually generate ever increasing numbers of hostile and outright threatening comments.  There is always a tendency to play "top this" in the comments section of postings like this, and when things deteriorated at TOS to the point of openly discussion of "the Mormon question", I had enough and started striking back until I was finally banned.  I decided to go down in flames of frickin' glory over this issue and that is exactly what I did.  In fact, you can still go over there and do a keyword search on certain words and up will pop a whole bunch of Mormophobic rants with a large number of descriptive key words assigned. 

My legacy there continues, but I have no desire to do another hair-on-fire exit from the intarwebs over this subject all over again.  I advise everyone to think hard about what you want to say, and be very careful about making this subject the trend du jour here.  I ain't no Mod nor will I ever be, but that does not mean I will sit idly by and watch while a small crew takes this site down the tubes. 

I warn you now I will not tolerate it, and I will do everything I can to disrupt any Mormophobic hateful conversations that get going here at TBR.  Mods be warned, I will bitch about every single sentence and report every post until the offending thread is locked and removed.

I'm not pointing any fingers, nor am I targeting any postings in particular....at least not yet.  The guilty know who they are and will be wise to heed a presently friendly warning.  Let's just not go there.

That is all.

I am a member of the Church and left FR over the same exact thing chief. I sincerely hope that nothing like that happens here and have absolute faith in the word of Myst whan she says she won't allow it to.

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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
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I've been doing some light reading on the early Christian church as of late. It's interesting to see how few generations it took for there to see things start to creep into Christianity that weren't in the scriptures and in fact may have contradicted them.

It has always been this way and always will be until Jesus comes back and establishes His reign!

There always have been and always will be men who simply cannot be a part of anything unless THEY get to call the tune so to speak.

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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2014, 09:37:20 PM »
Thanks for the backup on this Myst.  I know I'm not alone on this one.



You're not alone in the least.  There is no mormon hating here.

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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2014, 10:43:28 PM »
You're not alone in the least.  There is no mormon hating here.

And furthermore, we've never seen it during the 2012 election either.

IMO, the 'religion' category is to provide a place where news/changes about a religion can be found.   It's not meant to be a place where you debate the validity of one versus another. 
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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 12:57:50 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2014, 12:30:06 PM »
I'll see where this is going and if I see one post defaming Mormonism or any other religion it will be locked......and I agree...I may take the whole topic down..... :smokin:


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Re: The Philosophy of Mormonism-Core Beliefs
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2014, 01:14:59 PM »
I vote for mutual respect and respecting the wishes of Myst and Repub.

I like hearing people - what they believe and why they believe what they believe.

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2014, 01:20:14 PM »

Will that include Islam???

We are not talking about Islam.  We are talking about bashing Mormons who are American citizens.

I encourage you to take the time to re-read the post I put up on this earlier.  I was very clear about what I had to say, I do not need to repeat it, and I stand by every word I clearly posted then.  It does not need interpretation, substitution, or any caveats of any sort.



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