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US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan

By: Pamela Geller

Thursday, Jun 26, 14



Our troops must adhere to the sharia during the Islamic month of Ramadan in Bahrain and other Muslim countries. Subjected to dawah (proselytizing) by an Islamic cultural adviser at the Naval Support Activity, soldiers are forced to sit through lessons on Islam. No eating, drinking, alcohol, smoking during the month of Ramadan.

This is what the Obama administration and the US military are obsessed with as armies of jihad tear through the Middle East.

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Military newspaper Stars and Stripes report:


“It actually made me want to do a lot more research into the religion,” said Petty Officer 1st Class James Ramirez.

Really? How about equal time for the Jewish faith? The Christian faith? The Hindu faith?

US military  are encouraged “to experience Iftar in a Ramadan tent.”

Why anyone who is not a Muslim must stop eating (except in secret) during Ramadan is another example of Islamic supremacism. Unlike Jewish law, which pertains only to Jews, and Canon Law, which pertains only to Catholics, the Sharia asserts its totalitarian authority over non-Muslims.

During the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur, Jews fast from sunup to sundown. Nowhere and at no time has the idea of no one else eating been considered. Nor should it.

The idea that our servicemen and women cannot have a coffee on their drive to work is outrageous and indicative of how far the West has gone in the norming of the sharia. Muslims eat a giant meal before sunup, but our boys and girls can’t have a coffee while we defend these countries in many cases? Supremacism and submission.

And it doesn’t stop there. Our soldiers (men and women) must wear long sleeve shirts. No alcohol or smoking  is permitted, and if all this weren’t pathetic enough, soldiers are instructed to say “Ramadan Kareem.”



US personnel in Bahrain prepare for Ramadan
 By Hendrick Simoes
Stars and Stripes
 Published: June 26, 2014 (thanks to witness)

Ali Hassan, a base cultural adviser at Naval Support Activity Bahrain, briefs about 150 U.S. personnel about Islam, the Islamic lunar calender, and about customs and traditions during Ramadan, Tuesday.

MANAMA, Bahrain — U.S. personnel accustomed to drinking their coffee on the drive to work will have to put that habit on hold for about a month. It’s one of a few lifestyle changes Americans will have to make during the holy month of Ramadan.

Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. Officials expect Ramadan to begin at sunrise on Saturday, depending on when the new moon is sighted. The holy month lasts for approximately 30 days — until about July 28. For Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a month of fasting and devotion to God. Most Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, when families gather for Iftar — the meal that breaks the fast.

For the 8,200 U.S. personnel living here, and those serving throughout the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility — including servicemembers, civilian personnel, contractors and family members — the month may require changing some daily routines.

Businesses and government offices will reduce hours and most restaurants will be closed during daylight hours.

While not required to fast during Ramadan, in Bahrain, Americans can be fined or detained by local authorities for eating, drinking or smoking in public when off-base during daylight hours.

Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.

Base cultural advisers have spent the last few weeks conducting Ramadan briefs to educate Americans about the holy month. Ali Hassan briefed about 150 personnel Tuesday about Islam, the lunar calendar and customs and traditions during Ramadan.

“It actually made me want to do a lot more research into the religion,” said Petty Officer 1st Class James Ramirez. He said the additional requirements during the month aren’t a big deal to him. “For such a small period of time, it’s a small sacrifice,” he said.

Other servicemembers echoed that sentiment.

Hassan encouraged personnel to experience Iftar in a Ramadan tent, many of which are set up at various locations around Bahrain during the holy month and welcome non-Muslims.

“Make it a point to visit these tents while you’re here. You don’t know if you’ll ever come back to Bahrain in the future,” Hassan said during the brief.

While the tents offer a more traditional atmosphere, many restaurants put aside their regular menus during the month and serve special Iftar dinners.

Things to Know During Ramadan:

Eating, drinking, chewing and smoking in public are civil offenses in some Islamic countries.

Men should wear long sleeves and pants. Women’s sleeves should extend below the elbow and pants or skirts should cover the knees.

Avoid critical remarks about fasting or any religious practice.

Most restaurants will be closed except those in 4- and 5-star hotels.

Businesses alter and reduce hours during the day; some open at night until early morning hours.

Arabs are good hosts and may offer you food or refreshments during daylight hours. Such offers should be declined.

All consumption of alcohol by U.S. military personnel is prohibited at any off base public venue in the U.S. Navy 5th Fleet Area of Responsibility during Ramadan.

It’s customary to say ‘Ramadan Kareem’ during Ramadan.

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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2014, 07:19:31 AM »
It's something most people would call being polite.

Not letting people who can not eat due to religious obligations see you eating during the day is normal. Nothing exotic. It's like not eating in public from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday if you are working with Jews. Or suffering through usually terribly cooked fish on Fridays. Or skipping pork, bacon and shellfish.

No biggie, in other words. Well - except for the bacon.That looms large.
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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2014, 09:32:12 AM »
It's something most people would call being polite.

Not letting people who can not eat due to religious obligations see you eating during the day is normal. Nothing exotic. It's like not eating in public from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday if you are working with Jews. Or suffering through usually terribly cooked fish on Fridays. Or skipping pork, bacon and shellfish.

No biggie, in other words. Well - except for the bacon.That looms large.

When in Rome do as the Romans do.  However, expecting non-Muslim troops to engage in these activities while on-base and/or in private is going too far.  Engaging in the easy formalities when in public is just common courtesy; it's another thing entirely when it's forced on non-muslims when not in public.

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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2014, 10:09:15 AM »

It's something most people would call being polite.


No, it's what most people recognize as being intimidated or bullied into submission.

Being polite would be the muzzies letting others carry on...


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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2014, 10:13:17 AM »
Sort of yes and no.

If you are based on your own, do as you want to. It's no harm, no foul.

If you are co-based, you need to consider your bunkmates. We head out, before we go, St.Micheal's prayer is said. Everyone says it. Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Atheist - ever single person recites the prayer. It's polite.
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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2014, 10:33:46 AM »
Sort of yes and no.

If you are based on your own, do as you want to. It's no harm, no foul.

If you are co-based, you need to consider your bunkmates. We head out, before we go, St.Micheal's prayer is said. Everyone says it. Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Atheist - ever single person recites the prayer. It's polite.

Yep, and the moslems don't 'consider their bunkmates' or they wouldn't intimidate people into participating in their 'laws'...

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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2014, 03:29:37 PM »
Will muslims be forced to exchange Christmas gifts Dec. 25?  You know they won't so where is the tolerance on their part?
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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2014, 03:34:05 PM »
It's something most people would call being polite.

Not letting people who can not eat due to religious obligations see you eating during the day is normal. Nothing exotic. It's like not eating in public from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday if you are working with Jews. Or suffering through usually terribly cooked fish on Fridays. Or skipping pork, bacon and shellfish.

No biggie, in other words. Well - except for the bacon.That looms large.

Hate to point this out, but that kind of prevailing opinion is why you have muslims running rampant in British neighborhoods.  Next up, your good muzzie neighbor will start broadcasting the Muzzin's call to prayer five times a day over loudspeakers.

Slippery slope.  Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.

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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2014, 03:52:51 PM »
Yep, and the moslems don't 'consider their bunkmates' or they wouldn't intimidate people into participating in their 'laws'...

And you, of course, would never dream of doing that. That's why Arabs are perfectly free in the ME to follow their ancient laws, tribal allegiances and boundaries.

The oldest rule for testing the fairness of something is to turn it about. If you wish to live under your own laws and customs in your own country, that's fine. Insisting that if they move in they follow the laws is also fine. Just don't expect people in a completely different country to change their laws and customs to suit you.

We are stuck with Muslims. Full stop, unless Obama actually did something right with the whole NASA outreach thing. I don't think the two cultures can mix well, nor should they. A few souls can - I have mentioned that before too, based on personal respect and walking more carefully than a 9 tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs - but in general, it's a no. The values are too far apart, and even the shared values are interpreted differently.

You simply can not kill or forcibly convert a billion people to your own way of thinking. So you need to think in terms of isolation, or working on common ground and trying not to throw more sand in the gears than you need to.
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Re: US military personnel forced to submit to the sharia during Ramadan
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 01:19:04 PM »

The oldest rule for testing the fairness of something is to turn it about. If you wish to live under your own laws and customs in your own country, that's fine. Insisting that if they move in they follow the laws is also fine. Just don't expect people in a completely different country to change their laws and customs to suit you.


Exactly, and the Muslims always comply when 'forced' to adhere the the customs and laws of countries where they are in the minority.  Oops, they don't.  They want to live under their own sharia law, no matter what country they are in and force you to live under their law when in their country.  It's obviously a one-way street w/ them.

Your own arguments keep working against you but you simply refuse to admit it...


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