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Sen. Howard Baker
« on: June 26, 2014, 09:16:37 PM »
Sadly, former Sen. Howard Baker Jr. passed away today, at age 88.

His accomplishments were legion:  He served as Senate Minority Leader; as Senate Majority Leader; as White House Chief of Staff; and, eventually, as  U.S. Ambassador to Japan.     

But he is probably best remembered for his query in the Watergate hearings, more than 40 years ago:  "What did the president [Nixon] know, and when did he know it?"

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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 09:27:15 PM »
Thanks for posting this.  I saw that Senator Baker had passed earlier today and I remember him well.  One of the biggest problems we have in Washington today is a lack of men of the stature of Howard Baker.  He was the best Chief of Staff President Reagan had, and he was personally responsible for carving out an enormous legacy of accomplishment and leadership that nobody can come close to matching today.

The Nation will miss him.

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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 09:46:35 PM »
Thanks for posting this.  I saw that Senator Baker had passed earlier today and I remember him well.  One of the biggest problems we have in Washington today is a lack of men of the stature of Howard Baker.  He was the best Chief of Staff President Reagan had, and he was personally responsible for carving out an enormous legacy of accomplishment and leadership that nobody can come close to matching today.

The Nation will miss him.

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I remember him oh so well.  A Statesman.  RIP Senator Baker.
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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2014, 10:45:02 PM »
I always liked him too! RIP!


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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2014, 10:48:45 PM »
Pardon me for speaking ill of the dead, and a man before my time, but wasn't he the liberal Democrats' favorite Republican?

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2014, 10:49:28 PM »


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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2014, 11:06:10 PM »
Pardon me for speaking ill of the dead, and a man before my time, but wasn't he the liberal Democrats' favorite Republican?

He was an upstanding Republican Senator who called Nixon on his criminality.

There is not his equal in the Democrat party of today.
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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2014, 11:09:58 PM »
He was an upstanding Republican Senator who called Nixon on his criminality.

There is not his equal in the Democrat party of today.

Very true. There was a time when both Dems and repubs actually did their jobs andalso both hated communism, I might add. Today is like the twilight zone **nononono*


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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2014, 11:15:15 PM »
Pardon me for speaking ill of the dead, and a man before my time, but wasn't he the liberal Democrats' favorite Republican?

There are few things more indigestible than a New York Times obituary for a Republican. No matter how accommodating that person might have been toward his political adversaries, or how carefully solicitous he was toward their opinions, it somehow never quite redeems him in the eyes of our self-appointed arbiters of eternal social value.

Senator Baker was more liberal than I am, to be sure. But having grown up in the '70s and having become a conservative during those tumultuous years, the one thing I recall distinctly about Howard Baker is what a thoughtful, reasoned, decent and gentle man he always seemed to be. Old School. RIP.
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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2014, 11:36:35 PM »
Pardon me for speaking ill of the dead, and a man before my time, but wasn't he the liberal Democrats' favorite Republican?

I believe you may be thinking, instead, of Lowell Weicker of Connecticut...

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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2014, 07:56:58 AM »
I always saw him as a Senator who kept his priorities and principles intact.  Country. People of Tennessee. Party.

Now, think of today's lot.
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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2014, 08:40:49 AM »
I always saw him as a Senator who kept his priorities and principles intact.  Country. People of Tennessee. Party.

Now, think of today's lot.

Today's lot.  Me. Me. Me.

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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2014, 09:25:12 AM »
Very true. There was a time when both Dems and repubs actually did their jobs and also both hated communism, I might add. Today is like the twilight zone **nononono*
I was going to say, those were the days that you could act together to get things done. Not like today with the rabid dog politicians being the norm.
Howard Baker was a great man.
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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2014, 04:53:03 PM »
That's why I ask. Like I said, it was before my time and I don't want to speak ill of something I don't know about.

May the late senator Baker rest in peace.

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Re: Sen. Howard Baker
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2014, 07:52:27 AM »
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For the progressive, there is very little to love about the United States. Washington, Jefferson, Madison? A bunch of rotten slaveholders, hypocrites, and cowards even when their hearts were in the right places. The Declaration of Independence? A manifesto for the propertied classes. The Constitution? An artifact of sexism and white supremacy. The sacrifices in the great wars of the 20th century? Feeding the poor and the disenfranchised into the meat-grinder of imperialism. The gifts of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, Astor? Blood money from self-aggrandizing robber barons. Nat Rev


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