Author Topic: Illinois Threatens To Fire Mom-Caregiver And Replace With SEIU-STATE Labor  (Read 367 times)

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« Last Edit: June 26, 2014, 07:35:16 AM by rangerrebew »
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They have to clock in and out??? That's totally insane. Does that mean a mother can't help her child if she's "off the clock"?
Unbelievable!

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They have to clock in and out??? That's totally insane. Does that mean a mother can't help her child if she's "off the clock"?
Unbelievable!

I think the concept is to gauge how much financial support each person should get from the gov't by the number of hours that person spends actually providing support.  There is a certain naive sense to that:  someone who only has to spend 1 hour a day providing care to another really doesn't need as much financial support as someone else who has to spend 10 hours a day providing care.  My guess is that some gov't board sets a maximum limit based on the disabled child's condition, and the family member providing care gets compensated for actual hours of care provided, but not beyond that limit.  That being said, trying to keep track of that in practice is a mess, as this makes clear.  Illinois should find some better way to measure compensable need.

Viz. your question:  no, I don't think it means a mother cannot help her child when she's off the clock (n.b., that this only applies to a small group of people providing long-term care to a family-member with a disability; it doesn't apply to everyone who happens to have a kid).  What it really boils down to is that only some of that care is going to count toward the financial support the family gets from the state of Illinois.

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I think the concept is to gauge how much financial support each person should get from the gov't by the number of hours that person spends actually providing support.  There is a certain naive sense to that:  someone who only has to spend 1 hour a day providing care to another really doesn't need as much financial support as someone else who has to spend 10 hours a day providing care.  My guess is that some gov't board sets a maximum limit based on the disabled child's condition, and the family member providing care gets compensated for actual hours of care provided, but not beyond that limit.  That being said, trying to keep track of that in practice is a mess, as this makes clear.  Illinois should find some better way to measure compensable need.

I totally agree that IL needs to find a better way. I'm not sure I approve much of this whole benefit plan, but it would make a whole lot more sense to have the disabled person evaluated to see how much care time they should need, and then to just pay that. If the caregiver is hired, they probably won't work more than the paid hours. If the caregiver is a parent, they probably will, but who cares if the payment is fixed?

This is just another case where gov't has to control the private behavior of its minions. Is there no limit to how much we will tolerate of gov't control if it comes with a check???

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Such is life in one of the "new slavery" states, like Illinois...


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