Author Topic: 'There's no amount of American fire power that's gonna be able to hold the country together': Obama takes another step back from military action in Iraq  (Read 299 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline flowers

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 18,680
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2665660/Kerry-confronts-threat-new-war-Iraq.html

Quote
    President Barack Obama is standing firm in his decision not to deploy combat troops to Iraq
    The country's problems can't be solved by military might alone, he said, in interview that aired on CNN, CBS and MSNBC this morning
    'There's no amount of American fire power that's gonna be able to hold the country together,' Obama told CNN
    Secretary of State John Kerry is in Iraq meeting with government leaders, including Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, delivering the Obama administration's message in person that Iraqis must come together in order to save their country from despair
    A new poll shows that more Americans than not believe the U.S. is under no obligation to give Iraq military assistance

By Associated Press and Francesca Chambers


Offline Relic

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4,967
It is a position that few politicians have experienced, but every last one of them wishes would happen to them. That position is the ability to say anything, make any observation, and have the media treat it as fact, or as wisdom from a higher power. In turn, the public believes it.

It was reported, and so it shall be, no amount of American firepower can hold Iraq together.

Offline mountaineer

  • Member
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 34,600
Keith Koffler:
Quote
"Mr. President, the bad new is, the Iraqi soldiers we spent years training are abandoning their positions. The good news is, they run faster than we thought."

- National Security Advisor Susan Rice

A note from our attorneys: This is not a real quote
:pondering:
Just being unique doesn't make you useful.

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 31,158
Excuse me, but the premise is nonsense.

The US took over Iraq in something like 39 days.  This, when the Iraqi military was coordinated.

Also, you need to remember that the people saying this are from the same cult as Harry Reid ("This war is lost!")....while in fact, the surge called upon by GWB was totally successful.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"I am responsible for what I say.  I am not responsible for what your understand."  ...me

Offline PzLdr

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,421
Hillary's Self-announced Qualifications: She Stood Up To Putin...She Sits to Pee

Online Fishrrman

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 10,137
I doubt you're going to find many Americans who want to throw the lives of more of our soldiers and a trillion or two more of our treasure to defending people who won't even try to defend themselves.

There are truly "lost causes" in this world.
Iraq is one of them.
Afghanistan is another.

They can't be "won" (to our side) by conventional means -- which we've already tried.

This isn't to say they (and the other nations of islam) could not be conquered.
We don't have the will to do that, to do what it would take.
The West will never "conquer" or pacify the nations of dar al-islam without conquering islam itself.

Even when the time comes when we are faced with our own destruction -- as it may someday -- we may not be able to muster that will.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2014, 09:38:02 PM by Fishrrman »

Offline Oceander

  • Technical
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 44,069
  • #ToldYouSo
Excuse me, but the premise is nonsense.

The US took over Iraq in something like 39 days.  This, when the Iraqi military was coordinated.

Also, you need to remember that the people saying this are from the same cult as Harry Reid ("This war is lost!")....while in fact, the surge called upon by GWB was totally successful.


That was then, this is now.  Then you had a more or less unified country that had no serious organized armed fighting units other than the formal military, so when the military surrendered, the entire country perforce had to surrender.  That Iraq no longer exists.  In fact, as a practical matter Iraq no longer exists; the name now belongs to a rump state that will soon enough become a satellite to Iran.  Instead you have a number of independent military forces, each of which hates the others, and none of which is going to surrender just because one of the others gets beat by the Americans.

Offline Atomic Cow

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 18,235
  • High Yield Minion
A dozen B-61 bombs would do wonders.  Won't happen of course.
"...And these atomic bombs which science burst upon the world that night were strange, even to the men who used them."  H. G. Wells, The World Set Free, 1914

"The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections." -Lord Acton


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf