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Offline GourmetDan

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The ISIS Fiasco: It’s Really an Attack on Iran
« on: June 20, 2014, 02:31:24 pm »

The ISIS Fiasco: It’s Really an Attack on Iran

"What’s important as far as Obama is concerned, is that the strategic objectives of Isis and those of the United States coincide. Both entities seek greater political representation for Sunnis, both want to minimize Iranian influence in Iraq, and both support a soft partition plan that former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, Leslie H. Gelb, called “The only viable strategy to correct (Iraq ‘s) historical defect and move in stages toward a three-state solution: Kurds in the north, Sunnis in the center and Shiites in the south.” This is why Obama hasn’t attacked the militia even though it has marched to within 50 miles of Baghdad. It’s because the US benefits from these developments."

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Re: The ISIS Fiasco: It’s Really an Attack on Iran
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2014, 06:39:46 pm »
The article that you posted is very thought provoking and makes a lot of sense; thank you for posting it!

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Re: The ISIS Fiasco: It’s Really an Attack on Iran
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2014, 07:19:02 pm »
The only wildcard on all of this is what Turkey will tolerate if and when the Iraqi Kurds decide to declare an independent Kurdistan.  Turkey shares a border with Iraqi Kurdish territory, and has a large number of ethnic Kurds who would love to take the land they live on in Turkey and join an independent Kurdistan.

This is yet another potential tripwire in all of this that has the potential to light off an even larger territorial conflict that is growing to include most of what used to be the old Ottoman Empire.  God help us all if anyone in that vast group of conflicting interests ever decides to introduce a nuclear weapon.  We already have widespread use of chemical weapons of mass destruction in Syria that has gone largely unchallenged except for the Russian engineered sideshow of removing some portion of Syria's outdated chemical precursors.  The Syrian Army has switched over to using chlorine gas instead (which is easily produced to use for water purification) and eventually they will step up the pace once again.

The three-state solution is also known as the "Biden Doctrine" and dates back to when Joe Biden was on the Senate Foreign Relations committee and constantly harped on this dangerous solution as far back as the first Gulf War.  What you see going on now in Iraq is exactly why the US did not pursue this path, and in fact worked for years to prevent exactly what we are seeing today.





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Re: The ISIS Fiasco: It’s Really an Attack on Iran
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2014, 01:05:02 am »
The only wildcard on all of this is what Turkey will tolerate if and when the Iraqi Kurds decide to declare an independent Kurdistan.  Turkey shares a border with Iraqi Kurdish territory, and has a large number of ethnic Kurds who would love to take the land they live on in Turkey and join an independent Kurdistan.

This is yet another potential tripwire in all of this that has the potential to light off an even larger territorial conflict that is growing to include most of what used to be the old Ottoman Empire.  God help us all if anyone in that vast group of conflicting interests ever decides to introduce a nuclear weapon.  We already have widespread use of chemical weapons of mass destruction in Syria that has gone largely unchallenged except for the Russian engineered sideshow of removing some portion of Syria's outdated chemical precursors.  The Syrian Army has switched over to using chlorine gas instead (which is easily produced to use for water purification) and eventually they will step up the pace once again.

The three-state solution is also known as the "Biden Doctrine" and dates back to when Joe Biden was on the Senate Foreign Relations committee and constantly harped on this dangerous solution as far back as the first Gulf War.  What you see going on now in Iraq is exactly why the US did not pursue this path, and in fact worked for years to prevent exactly what we are seeing today.






Turkey appears to have made some de facto peace with the Kurdish region in Iraq, to the extent of allowing the Kurds in Iraq to export oil through Turkey via a pipeline the Kurds built up to the Turkish border.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/amid-turmoil-iraqs-kurdish-region-is-laying-foundation-for-independent-state/2014/06/12/c1f22d7c-f26a-11e3-bf76-447a5df6411f_story.html

The story quotes one Turkish official involved:
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“Turkey will use its influence in Irbil to discourage independence,” said one of the Turkish officials involved in the energy deal. “But if Kurdistan should become independent, then, to put it in financial terms, Turkey has bought that option.”

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