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« on: June 15, 2014, 02:01:58 PM »

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Offline sinkspur

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 02:31:08 PM »
Is it fair to raise the fact that you and Bill are grifters?  You're obsessed with money, still pissed that you got caught burglarizing the White House furniture.

You're a privileged elitist Hillary and the more you run your mouth, the less America likes you.

So, keep talking.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2014, 04:28:35 PM »
I don't think Karl Rove got "shut down" when he questioned her health. Her husband is the one who said that it took her 3 months of hard work to recover from that "incident", even though he never really said what it was. That sounded a lot more serious than anything Rove was asking about.

But trust the media to make any answer, no matter how damning, look worse for the GOP.

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2014, 04:41:31 PM »
I don't think Karl Rove got "shut down" when he questioned her health. Her husband is the one who said that it took her 3 months of hard work to recover from that "incident", even though he never really said what it was. That sounded a lot more serious than anything Rove was asking about.

But trust the media to make any answer, no matter how damning, look worse for the GOP.

Exactly.  What Karl had to say was mild in comparison to some of the other speculation I've seen about what really ails the Hildebeest.  I keep coming back to the fact though, that when she appears in public to deliver remarks, her preferred format is parked on her ass in an easy chair, and that suggests to me she cannot stand steady for very long.

The first date I ever took my wife on was a lecture by G.Gordon Liddy (followed by dinner and drinks, of course); and when G. Gordon delivers one of his talks he does it standing up on stage the entire time.  He likes to say that proves he is "fit, virile and vigorous", and the Hildebeest's public appearances demonstrate anything but...

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2014, 04:57:20 PM »
Exactly.  What Karl had to say was mild in comparison to some of the other speculation I've seen about what really ails the Hildebeest.  I keep coming back to the fact though, that when she appears in public to deliver remarks, her preferred format is parked on her ass in an easy chair, and that suggests to me she cannot stand steady for very long.

That's possible, but it could also be that she suffers from stage fright. She obviously doesn't have her wits about her when she gets questions, and I don't think she's ever had a good appearance as a speaker. I know people who have to be medicated before they can stand in front of a crowd to speak, and they use the same kind of tricks she does whenever they can get away with it.

Whichever it is, it sure isn't a good problem for a President to have.  :shrug:

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2014, 05:59:35 PM »
I just reviewed some polls. She may well be the next President.

The center-right will need to up their game, if they expect to avoid that outcome.

She may not be the smooth natural politician her husband is, but she is nonetheless very experienced.

Few in the GOP do well beyond the party itself.

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2014, 07:20:05 PM »
I just reviewed some polls. She may well be the next President.

The center-right will need to up their game, if they expect to avoid that outcome.

She may not be the smooth natural politician her husband is, but she is nonetheless very experienced.

Few in the GOP do well beyond the party itself.

Presidential polls at this juncture is kinda meaningless. A lot can happen between here and now.
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Mueller has been one of the most respected individuals on the planet over the last 20 years.

Mueller is a Republican

Mueller was appointed by Republicans

Mueller doesn't determine if someone is guilty, The Judge and Jury do!

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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2014, 07:33:14 PM »
I just reviewed some polls. She may well be the next President.

The center-right will need to up their game, if they expect to avoid that outcome.

She may not be the smooth natural politician her husband is, but she is nonetheless very experienced.

Few in the GOP do well beyond the party itself.

Not many GOPers were doing well before Reagan got elected either. But the dims were doing worse. And it looks like the dims aren't doing so well right now. hillary might be doing better than the rest of the dims, but there's plenty of room for a GOP candidate to look better in the next two years.
It's a bit too early to panic about 2016; we have to save ourselves in 2014 first.

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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2014, 07:38:07 PM »
Presidential polls at this juncture is kinda meaningless. A lot can happen between here and now.
Any one poll might be an outlier. But many, many taken together over a long period mean plenty./

A Cruz nomination for example would likely be a Goldwater/McGovern repeat.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2014, 08:05:04 PM »
Any one poll might be an outlier. But many, many taken together over a long period mean plenty./

A Cruz nomination for example would likely be a Goldwater/McGovern repeat.

I agree let's wait after the 14 elections to see what happens in 16.
To Clear things up...

Mueller has been one of the most respected individuals on the planet over the last 20 years.

Mueller is a Republican

Mueller was appointed by Republicans

Mueller doesn't determine if someone is guilty, The Judge and Jury do!

Get it!!!!

“You can go to live in France, but you can't become a Frenchman. You can go to live in Germany, but you can't become a German... But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in the United States and become an American.”

- Ronald Reagan

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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2014, 08:34:56 PM »
One thing seems pretty clear to me:  Hillary is not the same candidate she was in 2008.  As Chieftain pointed out, she has to sit for interviews and even for one-on-ones with live audiences. 

She's more belligerent and defensive,  probably the old-person-syndrome kicking in a little early. 

Hillary Clinton has NEVER been a likable person.  The more she's out front, the more people see that.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2014, 08:41:46 PM »

She's more belligerent and defensive,  probably the old-person-syndrome kicking in a little early. 
Maybe that head injury had some lasting effects.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2014, 09:57:14 PM »
Maybe that head injury had some lasting effects.

Maybe so, but at some point, Hillary is going to remind men of their ex-wives or their mothers-in-law, and that is never a good thing.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.


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